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Inverter vs Non Inverter Aircon ., Really save electricity ?
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SUSleonhart88
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Jun 30 2014, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(paskal @ Jun 29 2014, 04:53 PM) quoted for truth. there's no easy way to predict how much you'll save if you get an inverter aircond. too much variable is involved. but if you have a small room, little to no cold air escape to outside, by all means get an inverter. TNB rates would just increase and increase and increase because we need to feed the IPP crony. and now since even royalties wants a piece of the IPP pie, there's no foreseeable stoppage to the increase. larger rooms would also benefit from inverter, but it'll take more time for the compressor to operate under reduced load. inverter AC would have no time to run under reduced load if you put it at the living room with massive opening everywhere or if the doors are kept opened frequently. in that case non-inverter AC would save you more because it's cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, higher BTU compared to inverter and doesn't have the losses associated with DC inversion circuitry. why don't use low watt AC? for 1 HP is only 640 watt/hr. so if you get 8 hrs then 5120 watt/day. then your monthly bill should around rm 70. cheap right?
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SUSleonhart88
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Jun 30 2014, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 30 2014, 10:23 AM) Don't look only at low watt usage. You need to know the BTU/Watt, higher BTU/Watt mean more efficient. All 1 HP AC is 9,000 BTU ma
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SUSleonhart88
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Jun 30 2014, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(paskal @ Jun 30 2014, 10:21 AM) it doesn't work that way. if you have a large room, you can't use a low watt AC and expect it to cool down the room easy. one more thing with downsizing the AC is that the compressor will be operated continuously, without any pauses in between, which will lead to premature failure. it's a known fact that an AC motor needs to cool down in between heavy load. a downsized AC will have no chance to cool down which will affect the longevity. Can install ceiling fan to help the aircon, no?
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SUSleonhart88
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Jun 30 2014, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(paskal @ Jun 30 2014, 12:25 PM) not necessarily. york 1hp is 10,000 btu/hr. 9,000 btu/hr is the usual but some might be more, or less. 1hp is usually 746watt, but it's not an absolute rule. some might be more or less depending on the model. yes. but if 1hp is installed to a hall sized room, then no matter how many fans it won't be enough. it's advisable to run the aircond with a fan to improve the circulation and get the additional wind-chill effect, but downsizing is still not recommended. my room is 400 sqft, when I calculate it should be enough with 8,000 btu. should be no prob with 1 HP 640 watts?
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SUSleonhart88
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Dec 23 2014, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Dec 23 2014, 07:17 AM) Pana still a Pana. Daikin you pay for york. Pana made in japan?
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SUSleonhart88
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Dec 24 2014, 05:15 AM
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Dec 23 2014, 10:46 AM) Nowadays where got made in Japan, nobody can afford for shipping & higher tax kobelco is still made in japan hahay
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SUSleonhart88
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Dec 24 2014, 05:17 AM
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Dec 23 2014, 01:40 PM) But ZEN me just available in s'pore market only.  Like Daikin or york not durable but got many service center. ME less service center meant more durable n last longer than others brand. If one thing easy spoil for sure need more support. share via mine here also   hahay. where does come like that? more service centre does not mean not durable. it means more people use daikin/york than mitsu bro. as people say ' if you ever try daikin, you will never look other brands' hahay
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SUSleonhart88
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Dec 24 2014, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Dec 24 2014, 06:59 AM) lol in before dunno you guys saying York is noisy brand wow. Nowadays to become a king of Aircon? Just change logo only ma, like I drove proton but change to mitsubishi then can sales higher value for inspira? Ha ha ha more likely a lexus with toyota. hahay
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SUSleonhart88
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Dec 24 2014, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(invest2229 @ Dec 24 2014, 01:50 PM) I am ME supporter. I will buy ME for sure because I do not need a fuss to call technician to clean the filter of aircon each month. hahay
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SUSleonhart88
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Dec 24 2014, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(boxer07 @ Dec 24 2014, 03:35 PM) erh... is it that difficult to take out the filter and soak in water ?  other brands you need to open the screw liao..
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SUSleonhart88
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Dec 25 2014, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(invest2229 @ Dec 25 2014, 02:00 PM) Now we should buy inverter or without inverter? Understood none inverter gas will stop gradually effective next year and probably another 3 or 5 years will not available from market. For this case we should buy aircond with inverter or not? What are you talking about? Start from next year r22 can be replaced by r32.
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SUSleonhart88
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Dec 25 2014, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Dec 25 2014, 03:24 PM) R410a lah, never heard before for R32. Also never do half way or service each time needed refill gas, if really needed refill gas meant Aircon man doing lack job from nuts connected joint got lost. Aiyo..he asked former r22 non inverter will become trash or not? I answered r32 can be filled to former r22 aircon. U put r410a to r22 aircon then aircon will blast liao
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SUSleonhart88
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Dec 25 2014, 08:51 PM
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SUSleonhart88
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Dec 25 2014, 08:54 PM
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SUSleonhart88
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Dec 26 2014, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Dec 25 2014, 08:59 PM) Lol R32 too rare already Even singapore still can't found it yet I said 2015 brother daikin will mass produce it
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SUSleonhart88
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Jan 15 2015, 03:18 AM
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day by day I found kimsim is dellusional
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SUSleonhart88
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Jan 15 2015, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jan 15 2015, 07:01 AM) Actually in m'sia all the mindset has been set for non-inverter like free of service & maintenance. Even pay for slightly higher, can enjoy the comfort cold and quiet all the night is consider worth it. In S'pore everyone without think so much and died died much go with inverter, cause due to higher electric bill here.. Also R22 model has been discontinued from last year. So I dunno what's wrong here. Since inverter got many benefit and just depend by you  this is not hardwarezone.com la. share with malaysian context bro. inverter always be more expensive maintenance than non inverter especially for service too. R22 is cheaper than R410 freon
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SUSleonhart88
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Jan 15 2015, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jan 15 2015, 10:29 AM) Hai talks easy meh.. I knew my bills was cheap, after switching to inverter. Even my Aircon now just set for 26C with quiet fan, the cooling still very cold as what I needs.  how about mine using 1/2PK 320 watt daikin then change to inverter, will it be cheaper? thanks
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SUSleonhart88
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Jan 15 2015, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jan 15 2015, 12:02 PM) Not too sure about Daikin. If I am in Kch sure I would go for Gree inverter  if got 1/2 PK inverter I will consider. you don't consider the high entry price of inverter rm 1k vs 2k? the 1k difference put on dividend shares 8% can cover your electricity bill liao
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SUSleonhart88
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Jan 15 2015, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jan 15 2015, 12:31 PM) 1/2hp. gree china brand la. don't joke with me. spart part the easiest daikin and cheap too This post has been edited by leonhart88: Jan 15 2015, 04:22 PM
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