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post May 13 2007, 01:04 PM

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recently, DDR2 is substantially drop on its price..is this price are going to drop?until the DDR3 come out?

in my observation..all hardware price are dropping and never came up like processor, mamaboard,gc,etc..
but,RAM is fluctuate..regardless that it is ddr or ddr2,they will fluctuate for unknown reason..
as i know, ddr2 will rise when ddr3 is available and cheaper..just like ddr and sd previously..

i will upgrade my pc to AM2 set this august..can any1 answer my question?
is DDR2 is going down until the DDR3 conquer the market?
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post May 14 2007, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(linkinpark @ May 12 2007, 03:39 PM)
I slot 4x512mb kingston(hynix chip) to my A8N-E mobo when i goto bios to check it run at DDR333 instead DDR400. When i pull out 2 of the ram and check again it run at DDR400. I want to ask wht is happening to the ram.
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i think it's not the RAM problem
this is older A64 intergrated memory controller weakness
4 RAM = drop to DDR333 doh.gif
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post May 14 2007, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(kakkoii!! @ May 13 2007, 01:04 PM)
recently, DDR2 is substantially drop on its price..is this price are going to drop?until the DDR3 come out?

in my observation..all hardware price are dropping and never came up like processor, mamaboard,gc,etc..
but,RAM is fluctuate..regardless that it is ddr or ddr2,they will fluctuate for unknown reason..
as i know, ddr2 will rise when ddr3 is available and cheaper..just like ddr and sd previously..

i will upgrade my pc to AM2 set this august..can any1 answer my question?
is DDR2 is going down until the DDR3 conquer the market?
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Nobody would know how far the price of ram will drop and when will they rise again..Look at the price of DDR2, they just recently drop like crazy. Even DDR1 did not drop until like this when the DDR2 was released... rclxub.gif
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post May 14 2007, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ May 14 2007, 01:17 PM)
i think it's not the RAM problem
this is older A64 intergrated memory controller weakness
4 RAM = drop to DDR333 doh.gif
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Also, in some A64 mobos, using 4 slots will result in the rams running in 2T and in single-channel.

For these cases, it is better to run on 2 slots - 1T, dual-channel, DDR400
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post May 15 2007, 07:24 AM

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Why DDR2 price drop so significantly? hmm..let me have a guess

IMHO, first is that DDR2 are too many on the market because of the new manufacturing & packaging technology, they can make DDR2 super duper fast..I mean faster than DDR or it could be that they have stopped DDR manufacturing and full force DDR2 now before DDR3 comes out..hehe..
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QUOTE(viqq @ May 15 2007, 07:24 AM)
Why DDR2 price drop so significantly? hmm..let me have a guess

IMHO, first is that DDR2 are too many on the market because of the new manufacturing & packaging technology, they can make DDR2 super duper fast..I mean faster than DDR or it could be that they have stopped DDR manufacturing and full force DDR2 now before DDR3 comes out..hehe..
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Rightly so. It is probably because of competition and companies flooding the market with DDR2!

DDR3 won't be mainstream until probably 2009 or 2010.... rclxub.gif
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Hi I'm building a system with a core 2 duo e6320. Probably gonna oc it up to 2.4ghz or 2.6ghz. I need some recomendations on what ram to get? smile.gif My max budget is rm600. Thanks in advance smile.gif

EDIT: Heard that e6x20 series don't oc that well. Will I probably be able to hit the intended speeds?

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post May 15 2007, 12:35 PM

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sorry....read wrongly doh.gif

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QUOTE(joe_star @ May 15 2007, 12:31 PM)
Hi I'm building a system for my cousin with a core 2 duo e6320. Probably gonna oc it up to 2.4ghz or 2.6ghz. I need some recomendations on what ram to get? smile.gif My max budget is rm600. Thanks in advance smile.gif

EDIT: Heard that e6x20 series don't oc that well. Will I probably be able to hit the intended speeds?
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Plenty of choices at that budget range. If you intend to get high performance ram, i have seen plenty of Crucial Ballistix ram selling on bulk sale for below RM600 which is a 2Gb (1gb * 2) kit that does seem very worth..Infact, they are using D9 chipset as well which is great in OCing..
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Yeah I've seen them too and was thinking about em. So they can be considered worth the money huh?
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QUOTE(joe_star @ May 15 2007, 02:16 PM)
Yeah I've seen them too and was thinking about em. So they can be considered worth the money huh?
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Below RM600 for 2GB kit and comes with D9 chipset..Of course..lol...But if you are not into OCing, of course saving some money by getting Value Ram is not bad either..
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Yea coz I think I'm not trying for that crazy an OC.....so would value ram do the trick? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(joe_star @ May 15 2007, 04:47 PM)
Yea coz I think I'm not trying for that crazy an OC.....so would value ram do the trick? biggrin.gif
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If no OC, why not just get Value ram. Their performance is the same in the first place..lol..And for DDR2, you could easily get 1GB * 2 slightly above RM200 thumbup.gif ..
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Not say no OC, but up to 2.4ghz or 2.6ghz only(e6320 is 2.0ghz stock tongue.gif), so at least equal to an e6600 rclxms.gif. Not above 3ghz like some ppl do here tongue.gif. So would value ram do the trick?

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post May 16 2007, 01:50 AM

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if you plan to OC, choose performance ram over Value RAM. Take consideration about the fact that performance ram beside OC ability, they was designed to minimize error when loading and reading from and toward the memory.
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im planning on a RAM upgrade

DDR400 PC3200

which RAM is the best and fastest for this range?

planning on maxing the memory to 2GB dual channel

no overclocking, just normal use

recommendations pls
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If you are not OCing, any value ram will do as long as it is DDR400 PC3200. There will be no noticeable difference..
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So lets say if iam looking out at maxing my mobo's ddr ram capacity so having a performance ram or a value ram wont make a difference at all? i mean not even a signifant difference? At the moment i am using a Pentium 4 2.66 Prescott and god;s grace i hope i will be able to get the pentium 4 3.4 Prescott...

Would the change of chip affect the performance or the change of RAM?

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QUOTE(a1098113 @ May 17 2007, 08:51 PM)
So lets say if iam looking out at maxing my mobo's ddr ram capacity so having a performance ram or a value ram wont make a difference at all? i mean not even a signifant difference? At the moment i am using a Pentium 4 2.66 Prescott and god;s grace i hope i will be able to get the pentium 4 3.4 Prescott...

Would the change of chip affect the performance or the change of RAM?

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It really depends on what you're using your computer for. If you just an average user e.g. browsing the internet, BT, word processing, then value rams would be more than adequate. Putting in performance rams won't significantly increase your computer's speed.

Again, changing CPu to a faster one will also depend on what you're using it for. Of course, if you have CPU-intensive programs, then a CPU upgrade would be a better choice rather than ram.

BTW, how much ram do you use? What are you using your computer for?
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QUOTE(kmarc @ May 17 2007, 09:01 PM)
It really depends on what you're using your computer for. If you just an average user e.g. browsing the internet, BT, word processing, then value rams would be more than adequate. Putting in performance rams won't significantly increase your computer's speed.

Again, changing CPu to a faster one will also depend on what you're using it for. Of course, if you have CPU-intensive programs, then a CPU upgrade would be a better choice rather than ram.

BTW, how much ram do you use? What are you using your computer for?
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I am currently using 512(Dual Channel) DDR ram... and well i am planning to use it for simulation and programming. Like AUTOCAD for example(Uniwork). Welliam looking at upgrading but iam scared to take the first step upgrading, i am very attached to my pc.

I am also wondering whats the difference between Asus M2a-vm HDMI and the normal M2a-vm....

And the amd x2 series for my situation which is a good buy?


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