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post Aug 23 2012, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(BRY7 @ Aug 23 2012, 06:31 PM)
http://imgur.com/a/0P5KY

i actually found this link on Macrumors forum biggrin.gif
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Wow. Nice find bro! Will try it later. Hope it works for PowerPoint and Excel as well. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Jarod @ Aug 23 2012, 06:33 PM)
isn't it troublesome to have to keep switching the resolution... guess i'll just stick to a mba...
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Well, even if you were to stick with 1440x900, it still looks decent. You should try out the rMBP with MS Word first - to see if it is your cup of tea. icon_rolleyes.gif

To me, from a normal seating distance, it still looks workable. It's just that it looks awful when you are used to all the Retina-ready apps. tongue.gif

I normally switch to 1920x1200 anyways because I love the extra screen space. rclxm9.gif
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post Aug 27 2012, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(BRY7 @ Aug 27 2012, 01:14 PM)
i would advise to get the RAM upgrade instead of processor.
battery life drops faster on the 2.6Ghz.
unless you have use for it
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Yup. Normally higher clock will use up more battery and worst is if you can't even feel the performance diff. rclxub.gif

QUOTE(erymanthus @ Aug 27 2012, 04:24 PM)
256GB really not enough?

Aiyoh, it costs RM 1700 to upgrade from 256GB to 512GB!
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My 256GB works really fine for me. If you really need more space, get a USB 3.0 external flash / HDD drive which is a better storage option.

Perhaps it is a wiser choice to invest in 512GB SSD when prices go down much further.. like in the 2013 rMBP.. just saying. happy.gif

QUOTE(erymanthus @ Aug 27 2012, 04:28 PM)
Hmm, from your feedback, I'm a bit worried now. I'm going to order a MBP RD in 1-2 weeks time.... But sounds like there are issues with apps and drivers compatibility..... Do you think there will be more compatibility in the near future?
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As with any first generation product, there certainly are teething problems. If you are not willing to be a early adopter (or should I say guinea pig tongue.gif), then by all means go only for the MBA and cMBP which are time-tested and works great. But if you want the most AWESOME NOTEBOOK in the world today, it is ONLY the rMBP; and I don't think I need to explain why. brows.gif
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post Aug 27 2012, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(beelze_gpwk @ Aug 27 2012, 08:44 PM)
Thanks for all the input... well, I will value battery life over processing power, guess I'll opt for the base model rMBP then, I will not run VM or Bootcamp or anything similar... only Photo edit most of the time, Video edit once in awhile...

Speaking of substitute for rMBP...
Samsung Series 7
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The only (ridiculously-tiny) chance that Samsung has against the rMBP is probably their Samsung series-9 15", but that's not coming to Malaysia ever I guess as the MBA and rMBP series will kill it in its infancy (in Malaysia). brows.gif

The Series-7 Gamer is nice as a gaming laptop, though for the price - not so as the graphics card is not nVidia-Kepler architecture, lousy non-island style keyboard, really ugly design (seriously I think this is the most major turn-off for the product), crazy nuts weight making it not stand out from other gaming laptops. In other words - look elsewhere!

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post Aug 29 2012, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(goskype @ Aug 29 2012, 04:51 PM)
ARGH My macbook air 13" 2011 got dent , does the warranty cover the dent ? unsure.gif
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Maybe you want to consider insurance in future. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Aug 29 2012, 05:01 PM)
If you fell it or knock it, nope.
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That's why now I'm using my rMBP with a hard case on. Sometimes when you go out with friends, if they suddenly 'hit' your Mac, it's hard to claim from them as it's not just a cheapo Windows laptop. laugh.gif

Even at home, the big baby (wife) doesn't treat my rMBP like I do; so better to have protection on my small baby (rMBP). brows.gif

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post Aug 30 2012, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(mr11 @ Aug 30 2012, 09:58 PM)
which mouse u guys using in mac ?
i using logitech wireless mouse...it makes me feel like not sensitive sad.gif
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Am using the Logitech M950 with Darkfield laser sensor with my rMBP. Very very sensitive and awesome. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Aug 30 2012, 10:46 PM)
I use Magic Mouse for work, Razer Orochi for gameĀ  tongue.gif
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I was using the Orochi for a short period right before I sold it off. There is this irritating ~1 second lag when the mouse awakes from sleep, and the mouse sleeps very fast when in wireless mode (like if left idle for just a minute or less.. can't really remember).

It doesn't affect much when gaming as your mouse is constantly moving all the time, but when you are doing some proper productive work or even surfing the web.. it can be hell of irritating when the mouse keeps 'lagging' to wake up after being left idle. sweat.gif

Also, the mouse is kinda too small for my hand but I love the look of it (I had the Black Chrome version which looks really cool! thumbup.gif )

Some pic spam of my ex-Orochi just for kicks. (I took this photo with my MBA 13 some time ago).
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post Sep 2 2012, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(BRY7 @ Sep 1 2012, 01:11 AM)
I have tried Word, Excel and Powerpoint; and they all work great with this trick. The only thing is you need to minimize-and-maximize the window every time to enable the Retina-version biggrin.gif
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Lonely @ Sep 4 2012, 12:01 AM)
2nd floor, not those big shop like Czone, viewnet etcs, is those small shop behind near to Sri COM.

biggrin.gif  free plastic bag 1 piece! =D
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Mind telling the shop name? Might be interested to get another one for a friend.
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post Sep 6 2012, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(beelze_gpwk @ Sep 6 2012, 11:02 AM)
i wont get any casing for my mac also. the mac look so nice as it is, adding case will... hide all the goodness inside... then wonder what for I'm getting it anyway. Well, just my 2 cents... I'll just use a sleeve or bag to carry it, the rest i'll just leave it as it is, clean it from time to time, and be a little more careful.
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I normally sell off my gadgets after a new refreshed model comes out.

So my rMBP would be with me for about a year or so, unless the refreshed model is nothing to get excited about. So once I sell it, I need it to be pristine in condition so that I can sell it at a better price.

Just saying. brows.gif blush.gif
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post Sep 6 2012, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(beelze_gpwk @ Sep 6 2012, 12:13 PM)
lol... well, if tat's the case, I'll suit up my mac also...Ā  rclxms.gif
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Even though my rMBP is suited now, I do remove the case once in a while as my lust for its beauty is too overwhelming. It's like your hot gf / bf that you keep locked up, once awhile must open up. brows.gif

QUOTE(erymanthus @ Sep 6 2012, 03:26 PM)
Okay, thanks for the useful feedback.

If order through reseller, they ask for 50% down payment. Pay them remaining 50% when the MBP arrives.

If I order online myself , I assume I have to pay full payment upfront, right?

Thanks
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Seriously, not recommended to pay any downpayment and wait for it from resellers. Either get the Mac from the reseller that has ready stock or go with online store purchase direct from Apple. There are just too many reseller around which delay a lot in doing orders, and you don't want to take that risk, do you?

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post Sep 6 2012, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(thirumaran @ Sep 6 2012, 04:09 PM)
I got a Macbook Air 2012 BTO (Build to Order) from Machines MV.  Put a 50% deposit and got it in exactly 2 weeks.

Only advantage from resellers is I took the 0% interest plan for 6 mths.

Btw, anyone know where I can get the Just Mobile Lazy Couch (yeah, it is expensive I admit)?  The 2 sellers in LYN are out of stock.

http://www.amazon.com/Just-Mobile-Lazy-Cou...k/dp/B003NNMDCE
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You can get it from iStudio but need to travel to Bangkok. tongue.gif

That's where I bought mine just about 2 months ago when I was there. About 590 baht if I remember correctly, which is MUCH cheaper than LYN sellers.

Even though not much of a use truthfully speaking, the Lazy Couch looks seriously awesome when paired with my rMBP. thumbup.gif
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post Sep 8 2012, 02:03 AM

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Battery capacity normally go up and down.
Is it stuck at 87% or less now, or does it go up to over 90% at times?

But when you get it new, your battery should be at 100% capacity, and not 98%.

Was the battery cycle count at 0 when you got it?

Was yours a brand new in sealed-box unit?
Or you bought a used unit?
Or you got it in an opened box (which means it has possibly been used before)?

Apple states that their batteries (beginning with MacBooks released from 2009 and later) maintain at least 80% charge over a period of up to 1000 full charge cycles.

However, this is provided that you use the battery within the expected temperature range, etc.

If you use your MacBook everyday in the sun or perhaps even do heavy gaming with no cooler pad or aircon environment, the capacity will drop way faster due to heat damage as batteries and heat do not go hand in hand.

So if your MacBook is approaching 80% fast before even close to 100 charge cycles, sounds like a defect to me.

But if I were you, I would use it for a little while more to see whether the battery capacity jumps back to over 90%.

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post Sep 10 2012, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(BRY7 @ Sep 8 2012, 09:05 AM)
you should do a battery calibration
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Have never actually done a battery calibration. Read some discussion that the battery capacity dropped after calibration. Could be reporting the actual capacity after calibration, though but I just won't take the risk. Also, every battery cycle is vital. laugh.gif sweat.gif

QUOTE(ajin999 @ Sep 8 2012, 04:17 PM)
why you guys buy apple laptop rather than buying windows laptop?

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It's a status symbol for the elite. 'Nuff said. cool2.gif

QUOTE(yue90 @ Sep 10 2012, 10:31 AM)
anyone experience this before? when u charge ur rmbp and put it on the ground. and u try to use 1 hand to touch the rmbp and left another hand away from the rmbp, u can feel there is some slightly electric shock. Is it normal?
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Try to use your rMBP with the supplied extension power cord. The plug that is connected directly to your power block adapter is not grounded.

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post Sep 12 2012, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(BRY7 @ Sep 12 2012, 07:48 PM)
an app that retinize apps that aren't retina ready biggrin.gif

http://retinizer.mikelpr.com
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Holy smokes! Did this app just get released?

It's a real life-saver for MS Office! No more using the frustrating hack that needs to minimize-and-maximize every time a new file is opened.

Thanks again BRY7 for your awesome find! thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(erymanthus @ Sep 12 2012, 11:00 PM)
Is the Ghosting / Image retention problems on the Retina Display MBP for real?

I read many users complaint about it in overseas forums but not many users in Lowyat Forum talk about it?
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Some people said it only affects LG displays, and Samsung displays may suffer other problems such colour tints, uneven brightness, colours too cold / bluish, etc.

Worst of all, some mentioned that image-retention may develop over time, means the longer you use your display, the higher chance you are to get it.

Just saying. Anyhow, with warranty, no need to worry so much. Apple should cover this under warranty unless of course you are bought your rMBP from local retailers, then perhaps they might say it's performing 'as it should'. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Victor3010 @ Sep 13 2012, 06:49 PM)
yeah.. quite worrying lol... i had to push the power button for 10 seconds and turn it back on...
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You are just like my wife. tongue.gif

Sometimes she doesn't treat a MacBook (or laptop for that matter) the way it should be treated.

I mean common.. electronics work just like human being, they need time. if you keep opening and closing your lid, you are forcing it to go to sleep - but while it is in the process of 'going to' sleep, you opened it back up - thus disrupting / screwing up the process. Don't be surprised if you rMBP starts smoking after you keep repeating it. brows.gif
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QUOTE(BRY7 @ Sep 15 2012, 11:26 AM)
i installed ClamXav, dont even use it.
Just downloaded incase i might need to use it when theres emergency  tongue.gif
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Using ClamXav as well. Normally just to check on downloaded files from the net, especially received files from other people.
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QUOTE(kevink82 @ Sep 17 2012, 12:11 PM)
I know when i bought my air 11 i paid full price as well, but i dislike malaysia apple policy though. Other country can do return within 14 days and we cant.... thats y ill opt for floor units if any shop have a samsung panel ill buy it even if its a demo unit.  biggrin.gif
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Just a note. For rMBP, the Samsung panel may not be affected with image-persistence problem compared to LG panels, but it is prone to a whole of different problems - such as uneven brightness, colour tints, and worst of all dead pixels - which will likely develop in time and is a far worse problem than image-persistence. Either way, we all have to be worried whether we have either Samsung or LG panel. Or just don't worry and enjoy our device. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Sep 24 2012, 09:55 AM)
I heard that people say if I install window 7 on Macbook , and it will lag when running the window 7
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I have been installing Windows 7 via BootCamp on my previous cMBP units, MBA and now on rMBP.

The lag I feel is just the same like on my non-Apple laptops. Nothing especially different.

QUOTE(BRY7 @ Sep 24 2012, 10:37 AM)
wont be as laggy as the normal MBP because its using SSD
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Windows 7 will see a really significant improvement when using SSD since the OS is heavily dependant on disk-reads for performance. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(beelze_gpwk @ Sep 24 2012, 11:12 AM)
is there a version of Windows which will not lag? haha...
luckily i do not really need windows anymore... on my way of getting my first mac... can't wait!
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IMHO, Windows 7's performance is quite good already; I would say even on par with Mac OS X in terms of performance. And Windows 7 BootCamp is a total must for gamers. Dota 2 is running like a dream on my rMBP. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Sep 24 2012, 11:52 AM)
Get a high end laptop like Alienware or Asus G series. NO POINT paying extra buying a mac if you are going to use bootcamp most of the time.
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There's always a point. tongue.gif

Take BRY7, he uses his rMBP mostly to surf net.

For me, I use my rMBP to surf net and work as well, but I could always use a Windows laptop for it.

Bottom line: If your job pays you well enough to get a Mac, just go for it. The experience is what counts. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ Sep 24 2012, 01:15 PM)
You guys rich mahh... I so jelly of you guys  whistling.gif  tongue.gif

My point is, if he's going to use it primary for Window software engineering study, what for stuck at limited spec like rMBP laptops when you don't use OSX, might as well spend the bucks for a high end Window laptop lah. C'mon, RM6k-7k you can get very powerful Window laptop already, probably higher spec than my rMBP lah wink.gif
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I think the only way I would recommend him to get a Windows laptop is if he is on budget. laugh.gif

Here we go again..

Mac =
- Class-leading battery life (for its weight),
- Mag-Safe,
- Glass Multi-Touch Trackpad,
- Awesome Performance-to-Weight Ratio (rMBP, MBA),
- Reliability (from most reports, Macs are the most reliable of all),
- Durability (Unibody Aluminium construction),
- Style (Need I say more on this? tongue.gif),
- Engineering Finesse (The electronics are designed to perfection compared to other Windows notebook where most of them are like 'rojak' inside. laugh.gif),
- Best Keyboard in a laptop ever.
- Luxurious Materials (Glass and Aluminium),
- etc.

The above would be more than reason enough for anyone to buy a MacBook even just for surfing the net or typing email, compared to a Windows laptop. And the price of the MacBook? Very worth it!!! ... oh waiittt.. tongue.gif


Ok. Time for my lunch now, BRB. laugh.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(erymanthus @ Sep 24 2012, 11:44 PM)
Before I booked my Macbook Pro Retina Display, I seriously considered alternative Windows Notebook.
The truth is those Windows notebook closer to MBP RD specs with 16Gb RAM, discrete graphic card, 2.6ghz Intel Chip with 256GB SSD are hard to come by. Those closer to these specs will end up being too heavy and chunky like Lenovo Y580, Alienware....
And most of the windows Notebook screen is still up to 1080p only.

I wonder why all the HP, Dell, Samsung, Asus, Acer, Lenovo do not produce slim, light, good looking notebook with high specs like MBP Retina Display.
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Yes, agreed. There is nothing that can match the rMBP in value in the market now. Those that complain of the rMBP being 'expensive' are just saying that they don't have such a budget (above RM 6k), and they start to say all sorts of reasonings to make themselves feel better (I know a few friends who are like this! LOL).

We might see the other laptop manufacturers soon implementing similar specs with the rMBP, but for them to do it in such a sweet package like the rMBP (with crazy-wafer thinness, unimaginable light-weight, unibody & glass construction, triple-display output, etc.) is going to take them a considerably LONG time. brows.gif

QUOTE(llsphinxll @ Sep 25 2012, 09:42 AM)
well it kinda depends on your budget to begin with, den would be your preference. cant exactly say, if you need windows, or if you dont 'need' to use OSx den you shud get a windows laptop.

apple has a way of getting people wanting their product, based on the way they link one product to another: airplay etc.

and there is always the OSx experience which i personally think has much better user interface and more intuitive than windows.

specs wise, apple laptop doesnt exactly lose out that much with the same amount of money you are paying. if you are someone that cares too much of what is written on paper (spec list) rather than how it performs, den perhaps you are abit blinded.
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In fact, Macbooks do not lose out at all. Take for example, the MacBook Air 13". The Windows-equivalent laptop such as the Asus Zenbook has much worse features / build / spec for the same price. In this respect, we can say Asus is expensive and Apple's offering is cheap! thumbup.gif

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