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Ahn3hn3h
post Jul 13 2012, 04:50 PM

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Is this VoIP SIP compliant?

If can why not consider a soft based app for light users who doesn't want a real phone.

Also it only costs RM48 or RM68 to retain your copper TM fixed line with free monthly minutes.
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post Jul 13 2012, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(thamch @ Jul 13 2012, 11:01 PM)
Hi,
I've flashed my Asus RT-N16 router to the latest Shibby's Tomato Firmware which supports VLAN 3 digits.  I did not configure anything on the Huawei fibre box yet.  Just plug the LAN2 to ASUS WAN port.  But after configure the Asus VLAN and reboot and I'm having connecting stage.  Any help is appreciated.
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VLAN Profile 1 with VLAN ID:1 for all ports 1-4?
But your VLAN Profile 0 has correct VLAN ID with not ports assigned to it?
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post Jul 14 2012, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(thamch @ Jul 13 2012, 11:56 PM)
Here is the picture of the default VLAN.  I just made changes to the WAN only.
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Have you configured your VLAN as on page 1 of this thread?

If YES then you don't even need to configure anything on the router page you're currently on because the port 3 on your Huawei BTU is already tagged with the VLAN ID.

Clear that page you showed and configure your to dial PPPoE out like your Streamyx and set DHCP as normal...Make sure your router WAN port is connected to port 3 of your BTU.

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post Jul 14 2012, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(thamch @ Jul 14 2012, 12:54 AM)
Mine is Huawei HG850a and currently, there is no way to access that box.
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Delete all VLAN Profiles 0-2.Clear them.
If that is the case then set WAN as bridge and assign the VLAN ID to any ports. All under a SINGLE VLAN Profile.
Dial out as PPPoE as normal.
Save and Reboot. Check if internet connection is through.

So BTU is your modem, VLAN is tagged to ethernet packets for the specified port and your router makes the PPPoE connection.

MIGHT Not Work.

VoIP compatibility is not guaranteed.
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post Jul 14 2012, 01:28 AM

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Since you're using LAN port #2.

For VLAN # 0,
Set VID=621, Tag Port 2, Default and Bridge=WAN.

Configure the rest like your PPPoE account dialup and DHCP like your Streamyx.
Save and Reboot.


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post Jul 14 2012, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(thamch @ Jul 14 2012, 01:17 PM)
Dear Expert,
Can guide me on how to set the correct VLAN for my Asus Tomato Router (RT-N16).  Still not very understand about those VLAN, Port(s) and Tagging.

How to set the VLAN 1 by 1 to have Internet and VOIP(bridge to Thomson)

Thank you very much.
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Replacing your Thompson router with a 3rd party is what you want first?

Have you got your internet up yet?
Get it up first then think of how to make the VoIP work.

First of all you can't access the fibre ONT yet so you can't plug in 2 Thompson and 3rd party as you like since you need to tag ports to their respective VLAN IDs on your Huawei set. Without accessing its web screen, you can't do anything.

So what you can do is replace the Thompson router where it plugs in with the new Asus you have.

On V# 0
VID: 621
Port 2: Tick It & Have it tagged
WAN Port have it ticked but DON'T tag it
Check Default
Bridge: Set WAN from the pull down. (To allow your VLAN#0 access to WAN for internet)

Save and Reboot. Check if you have port 2 connected to your computer.



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post Jul 14 2012, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(jssc @ Jul 14 2012, 01:13 AM)
this is my vlan settings on TP-LINK TL-WR1043 for Thomson PG (VOIP Only). [attachmentid=2945861]

These TP-LINK I use it as router and WIFI.
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Based on your screen you connect your BTU(Huawei)-> TPLink
Then out of the 4 ports of the TP-Link,
You connect your computer to Port1(VID=621) for internet and the Thompson to Port 2 for VoIP(VID=822)?

Looks very messy unless you plan to do away with the VoIP alltogether and the Huawei web screen can't be touch.
Or you can find a replacement for the Thompson router with built in VoIP sockets and 3 digits VLAN ID.

The guide on the first page already have the VLAN ID tagged for you by the Huawei BTU based on specific ports, so you just plug in the other routers like usual.
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post Jul 14 2012, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(thamch @ Jul 14 2012, 04:40 PM)
Hi, thanks for the steps.  I had tried your steps above and I'm getting error "Cannot proceed one and only one VID must be assigned to the primary LAN (br0).

What I did is:

1(VLAN), 1(VID)  Yes(Port1), Yes(Port3), Yes(Port4), LAN(br0) - Bridge
2(VLAN), 621(VID), Yes(Port2), On(Tagged), Yes(WAN Port), *(Default), WAN - Bridge

Connection is Huawei ONT LAN2 is connected to Asus Router WAN port.  The dialer is set to:
PPoE
22222@home.maxis.com.my
222221

Status is connecting.

Am I set the settings correctly?
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Did you leave 0(VLAN) untouched or clear it?

Your LAN(br0) has multi VID assigned to it resulting in conflict.
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post Jul 14 2012, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Jul 14 2012, 05:12 PM)
so nobody knows a telnet command to set the Thompson as Bridge? if not port forwarding ccant work properly if install another routerboard
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Why do you want to set the Thompson as bridge?

If you can tag the VLAN ID to specific ports of the Huawei ONT, then you can plug in any devices you want thereafter using its ports.

Meaning BTU--> Devices

If you set the Thompson as bridge. Then Minimum you have to pass through 3 devices in all:
BTU-> Thompson(as VLAN switch) -> Devices
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post Jul 14 2012, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(thamch @ Jul 14 2012, 04:40 PM)
Hi, thanks for the steps.  I had tried your steps above and I'm getting error "Cannot proceed one and only one VID must be assigned to the primary LAN (br0).

What I did is:

1(VLAN), 1(VID)   Yes(Port1), Yes(Port3), Yes(Port4), LAN(br0) - Bridge
2(VLAN), 621(VID), Yes(Port2), On(Tagged), Yes(WAN Port), *(Default), WAN - Bridge
user posted image

Try imitating jssc's VLAN settings although it's a little different.

Off = unticked
Untagged = ticked but not tagged
Tagged = ticked and tagged
CPU = I'm not sure but it's could be WAN for bridge or br0 ( this you need to play around )
I'm guessing the line with untagged ports 3,4,5 is CPU=LAN(br0) & tagged Port 1 CPU=WAN

Don't bother about the VLAN ID = 822 since it's associated with the VoIP?

Start from Line 1 = VLAN# 0

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post Jul 14 2012, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(thamch @ Jul 14 2012, 04:40 PM)

1(VLAN), 1(VID)  Yes(Port1), Yes(Port3), Yes(Port4), LAN(br0) - Bridge
2(VLAN), 621(VID), Yes(Port2), On(Tagged), Yes(WAN Port), *(Default), WAN - Bridge
You are actually almost there if you are imitating jssc's screen.

1) Noticed line 2 where WAN Port is tagged? His setting is off which means unticked and not tagged.
Reboot if see if it's working

Else if still failing to connect.

2) We do not know what CPU means whether it's WAN or LAN1(br0). Try switching WAN for the first line and LAN1(br0) for VLAN ID 621 tagged Port 2 line.

If all still fails, there's something wrong elsewhere. You might want to reflash to another 3rd party firmware.

Other Tomato fimware users are eager to know too from your experience. Thanks.

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post Jul 14 2012, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(jssc @ Jul 14 2012, 06:35 PM)
I try not to do any change on huawei modem. to make it simple, in future any problem with the modem, just call maxis to change it. it can be any brand and model. as long as maxis still using VLAN ID 621 for data and 822 for VOIP
It should work on all modem.
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Jssc,

user posted image

Referring to page one default settings of the BTU and referring to your settings, it's like LAN 2 on the BTU by default is already binded and tagged.

Your port 2-4 functions as internet ports and in your screenshot they are all set to off for VLAN ID=621 except for CPU.
So in his case what does CPU mean? Either LAN(br0) or WAN?


Added on July 14, 2012, 7:58 pm
QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Jul 14 2012, 06:44 PM)
Jssc,

user posted image

Referring to page one default settings of the BTU and referring to your settings, it's like LAN 2 on the BTU by default is already binded and tagged.

Your port 2-4 functions as internet ports and in your screenshot they are all  set to off for VLAN ID=621 except for CPU.
So in his case what does CPU mean? Either LAN(br0) or WAN?
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thamch and jssc,

I'm reading a few web screens for Huawei BTU and seems to find conflicting port assignments for their rulings.Some use port 1 others use port 2 to hook up the router.

But here is the general guide to handle them if you come to find out the VLAN rules INSIDE the BTU.

user posted image

For the particular VLAN ID=621 rule inside your BTU:

1) Has ONLY Port Binding checked, then all you need is to hook a regular router without VLAN capabilities to that particular port to connect to the internet.

2) If both Port binding and VLAN Tagging is checked, then you need to hook up a device that CAN handle VLAN untagging just like your customized 3rd party firmware.

On that particular router(next device after the BTU) with the 3rd party firmware, you DO NOT tag or port bind on the ports you want to use for the INTERNET for the particular VLAN ID ruling.

So you need to find out which port your Thompson router is connected to for the Huawei ONT and by default, the port binding and VLAN tagging should be checked inside your BTU settings.

This post has been edited by Ahn3hn3h: Jul 14 2012, 07:58 PM
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post Jul 14 2012, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(jssc @ Jul 14 2012, 09:01 PM)
On the Huawei it hv few vlan ID on 1 port

So need to set vlan on router to connect Internet. That y I set my router in that way.

And i need the VoIP, but I don't want the Thomson for Internet cause very unstable. That y I set the vlan my router and Thomson
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Yes that's why I suspect from your VLAN ruling in your TP-Link router, the Huawei modem settings for its LAN2 port which you connect your router to it has (port binding + vlan tagging) ticked inside its settings.

So in your TP-Link router, for the VLAN ID=621 ruling inside, you OFF them all from port 2-4 and they're the ones allowed to access the internet.

For your port1 which you use for VoIP, you re-tagged them with VLAN ID=822 again so it can be forwarded to the next device.
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post Jul 16 2012, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(thamch @ Jul 16 2012, 10:49 AM)
No yet working.  Still struggling with the VLAN configuration.  Need time to try all possible firmware.  Next will try Toastman firmware and hopefully it work.
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thamch,

user posted image

In your last settings (4th one from top) asking me,

Your VLAN #2 with VLAN ID 621,
Tick Port 1 and tagged it, Leave Port 2 to Port 4 & WAN UNCHECKED & UNTAGGED (Empty). Bridge=WAN

VLAN#1 VID 1,
Bridge=br0

PPPoE traffic should pass by now.

This is because jssc's settings for them are OFF.

user posted image

After this you can use either Port 2-4 for internet connection.

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post Jul 17 2012, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(thamch @ Jul 17 2012, 12:24 AM)
Good news, Internet is working already.  Now testing VoIP.
Here is the settings for Shibby's Tomato Firmware for Asus RT-N16.

Need some clarification from you.
Your Thomson router connections is it Thomson WAN port connect to your TP-Link Port1 or Port2?
Can you let me know which Thomson LED lights is on and what are the colour?

Thanks.
user posted image

You are making progress here. You can use all ports 2-4 to connect to the internet since you have set thm to untag VLAN ID 621 packets.

Jssc uses port 1 to connect to his Thompson router for VoIP access.

Since the router supplied by Maxis is set to untag 822 by default, create another rule for 822 (VLAN #3)
Under this ruling(VLAN# 3, VLAN ID 822),
Tick(port bind) and tagged PORT 1 - Very important

Leave the rest untouched(empty)

Set bridge = WAN

Save and reboot.



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post Jul 17 2012, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(thamch @ Jul 17 2012, 06:17 PM)
LAN(br0) - Used for VLAN#1
WAN - Used for VLAN#2
LAN1(br1) - Greyed.
LAN2(br2) - Greyed.
LAN3(br3) - Greyed.

The WAN, LAN(br0) can be select once only.
I've tried all possible combination already.
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Is your VoIP phone working before this at your Thompson? Have you activate it with Maxis request yet?

For the VLAN# 3 ruling it's correct to check and tagged PORT1 only leaving the rest empty.
Can the bridge be left empty instead of WAN/br0/br1...? jssc's settings if off for the CPU meaning empty.

There might be some difference here between jccs's settings for the voip. The VoIP VLAN ID could be different in your area meaning it might not be 822...

The other method is to reverse the process by untagging at your ASUS RT-N16 (create VLAN ID=822) but leave port 1 untouched.
Then log into your Thompson and remove the VLAN ID=822 rule inside it for its VLAN settings inside.

Meaning if you untag and unbind port in your Asus, you no longer need to untag it in your Thompson. Just leave the VoIP account setting inside for the phone ports to work.


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post Jul 17 2012, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(jssc @ Jul 17 2012, 09:15 PM)
r u using openwrt??

I using huawei HW850, and tplink wr1043 with openwrt... the thomson voip is working.
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He's not using OpenWRT but the Tomato Shibby firmware instead.

There's one more DD-WRT instead.

All together got 3 major different variants.


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post Jul 18 2012, 01:15 PM

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Why is the VLAN ID=822 labelled for IPTV instead of VoIP?
With this you need further clarification whether if this VLAN ID is really used for the voice service.

I'm very certain now that the settings needed for VLAN ID=822 in your Tomato Shibby firmware is correctly assigned.
VLAN# 3, VLAN ID=822 Port 1 Checked & Tagged, Port 2-4 & WAN Empty, Bridge=None

Without further understanding of the VLAN settings inside your Huawei ONT & the Thompson Router for the voice(VoIP) service, you might not be able to match them correctly with your 3rd party router. The issue here might not be using 822 VLAN in your area, whether the Thompson router is untagging 822 packets or the Tomato firmware is not retagging the packets properly therefore unrecognized by the Thompson when relayed.

Just make sure you've everything done correctly and check your connection of wires to double confirm.
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post Jul 26 2012, 04:33 PM

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TM is paranoid about user accessing their BTU especially the FTTH ones due to the security weaknesses involved in passive optical architecture setup.

The concern lies within the information exposure if a person manages to log into their BTU because the person could gather many things about its VLAN IDs for various services, bind them separately to get more bandwidth, share internet access accounts and even steal your VoIP accounts to make IDD/other network calls.

Now here's the suggestion.

Since they are so paranoid about letting users touch their BTU or temination unit which they claim it's their sole property for access, they why not untag everything at the BTU itself?

It already has 4 ethernet ports(all u need is 2 ports -1 for internet and the other for IPTV), with FXS phone ports.

From there on it's all up to the user to buy whatever router device they want to plug in with no restrictions or requirements to do VLAN untagging.

Why must VLAN untagging be done by the home gateway instead of the BTU?
The reason why the non official guide at page 1 aims to do this which is to untag the packets at a specific port so you can plug in any of your routers to it.
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post Jul 31 2012, 07:29 PM

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Guys, I'm trying to push TM to see if their allow their technicians to set up their BTU similar to what is displayed on page 1 to help those who wants their internet port on the BTU to connect your favourite routers to it upon request.

That is your choice if you want of leave it if you want things as it is.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2444049

If they insists of moving the ports let them get it set at port 1 but make sure that port binding is SET but tagging is NOT CHECKED.

I'm sure during the first time they caome and install those who wants this can ask for permission for it to be done?

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