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 ►+♠+-LYN Proton Persona Owners Club V.XL-+♠+◄, Persona: The Definition of Handling

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Cavino
post Jul 20 2012, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(nicgoh @ Jul 20 2012, 10:44 AM)
lol.. yea yea... the push start makes no difference from the conventional car key method..lol

insert key>press push start>wait>then push again>then push + brake to start the car.. lol..
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Ok blush.gif , I did not know that....it seems Preve start button steps even worse than I thought....question is why implement this feature that does not help in anyway for a modern car but actually makes it worse...
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post Jul 20 2012, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Jul 20 2012, 10:43 AM)
i'm gen2 user but diving in persona thread....
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wave.gif Never seen u before in here.

QUOTE(nicgoh @ Jul 20 2012, 10:44 AM)
lol.. yea yea... the push start makes no difference from the conventional car key method..lol

insert key>press push start>wait>then push again>then push + brake to start the car.. lol..
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laugh.gif More process more trouble. doh.gif
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post Jul 20 2012, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Jul 20 2012, 10:43 AM)
i'm gen2 user but diving in persona thread....
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Aint we all trolling? Trolling is FUN if the thread posters takes it as jokes and responded light heartedly, malicious trollers never like that. Fun trollers will at times gives views from non-owners angle that is valuable....that is usually appreciated.
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post Jul 20 2012, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 20 2012, 10:48 AM)
Ok  blush.gif , I did not know that....it seems Preve start button steps even worse than I thought....question is why implement this feature that does not help in anyway for a modern car but actually makes it worse...
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coz i have been diving in preve thread from v1 till recently...

planning to get a preve.. too many problems with the car.. really holding me back...lol

then heard of the new persona elegance standard coming out..

so i chg my target to persona! hehe..

sa say this weekends can go test drive the new persona.. waiting eagerly!
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post Jul 20 2012, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(nicgoh @ Jul 20 2012, 11:19 AM)
coz i have been diving in preve thread from v1 till recently...

planning to get a preve.. too many problems with the car.. really holding me back...lol

then heard of the new persona elegance standard coming out..

so i chg my target to persona! hehe..

sa say this weekends can go test drive the new persona.. waiting eagerly!
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Later give us a review of what you experienced in the test drive. wink.gif
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post Jul 20 2012, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(nicgoh @ Jul 20 2012, 11:19 AM)
coz i have been diving in preve thread from v1 till recently...

planning to get a preve.. too many problems with the car.. really holding me back...lol

then heard of the new persona elegance standard coming out..

so i chg my target to persona! hehe..

sa say this weekends can go test drive the new persona.. waiting eagerly!
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But honestly, preve is of a different class, bigger seat, more spacious, better sound insulation, etc. If you get H-Line, I understand lar, but b-line insulation not very good ler, even M-Line AND h-Line insulation makes quite a big difference between them. Brake pump of B and M line also not up to par vs H-Line.

So downgrading purchase option from Preve to PE-B-M line does not makes sense.....although if you urgently need car then no choice. Most PE problem already solved. Those still there are minor only. Currently the only problem I got with my PE is a bit of dashboard rattling, all previous issue causing headache solved by itself or manually.

Otherwise, I would wait a year or 2 for either SE or FL to appear then buy then...

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jul 20 2012, 11:29 AM
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post Jul 20 2012, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 20 2012, 12:26 PM)
Later give us a review of what you experienced in the test drive.  wink.gif
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with pics.. u noe the drill
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post Jul 20 2012, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 20 2012, 10:48 AM)
Ok  blush.gif , I did not know that....it seems Preve start button steps even worse than I thought....question is why implement this feature that does not help in anyway for a modern car but actually makes it worse...
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Actually is insert key fob -> press button with brakes done already.

They came up with the process to see if they can avoid the OWV issue.

EDIT : TBH, I also dunno why Proton dun do it like Forte, no need to insert key fob doh.gif

This post has been edited by dares: Jul 20 2012, 11:40 AM
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post Jul 20 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 20 2012, 11:27 AM)
But honestly, preve is of a different class, bigger seat, more spacious, better sound insulation, etc. If you get H-Line, I understand lar, but b-line insulation not very good ler, even M-Line AND h-Line insulation makes quite a big difference between them. Brake pump of B and M line also not up to par vs H-Line.

So downgrading purchase option from Preve to PE-B-M line does not makes sense.....although if you urgently need car then no choice. Most PE problem already solved. Those still there are minor only. Currently the only problem I got with my PE is a bit of dashboard rattling, all previous issue causing headache solved by itself or manually.

Otherwise, I would wait a year or 2 for either SE or FL to appear then buy then...
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yea yea.. i agree with u.. i test drove the it before.. even the test drive car got serious wind noise, one way valve problem, sluggish moving from standstill.. but other than that is ok la..

since this is going to be my first car.. i prefer a smaller car compared to preve like persona.. moreover, i dont need to go sc always to fix this n that since u said that most of the problem for PE has been fixed..

the new persona also using improved version of iafm... i think i better go for persona.. hehe..

anyway bro.. thx for your kind advise.. really appreciate thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 20 2012, 11:26 AM)
Later give us a review of what you experienced in the test drive.  wink.gif
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ok bro! no problem! i will share my review with u guys ASAP!!!! rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by nicgoh: Jul 20 2012, 11:43 AM
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post Jul 20 2012, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(arayz @ Jul 20 2012, 11:30 AM)
with pics.. u noe the drill
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yes please do provid pics..

(eventhou SA said i will getting it by next week)
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post Jul 20 2012, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(anep @ Jul 20 2012, 11:44 AM)
yes please do provid pics..

(eventhou SA said i will getting it by next week)
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brows.gif brows.gif then it is better u post pics bro.. since u r driving her home! hahaha
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post Jul 20 2012, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(nicgoh @ Jul 20 2012, 11:45 AM)
brows.gif  brows.gif then it is better u post pics bro.. since u r driving her home! hahaha
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blink.gif He where got car? Only next week, he take.
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post Jul 20 2012, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 20 2012, 11:51 AM)
blink.gif He where got car? Only next week, he take.
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paiseh paiseh.. i should say.. DRIVING HER BACK SOON! lol..

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My car actually fixes some rattling noise by its own. When new, dash rattles. Now no longer rattles.
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QUOTE(nicgoh @ Jul 20 2012, 11:52 AM)
paiseh paiseh.. i should say.. DRIVING HER BACK SOON! lol..
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i within next week, u this weekend. u faster lol
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post Jul 20 2012, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(anep @ Jul 20 2012, 11:54 AM)
i within next week, u this weekend. u faster lol
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i test drive only wor >.<

damn jelly u ah bro tongue.gif
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post Jul 20 2012, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Jul 16 2012, 11:01 AM)
Cruising in highway, PE is good enough, engine a bit noisy when u go above 150 km/h. As for those rattle sound , u can always DIY to minimize the sound if u able to find the source. Wind noise can be reduce with those D-shape rubber, tyre noise can be reduce with install some sound proof material like bitumen flash tape (cheap way)  at the wheel arch linears, and wheel arch area.

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D shape rubber is what? wind sound bothering me.. I'm a lady, dunno bout cars le. but i love my 2011 PE H-line smile.gif
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post Jul 20 2012, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 20 2012, 08:44 AM)
yawn.gif And we are in V40. Let them chase lo.
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They can chase us within 1 year at the speed we and them are going now.. haha..

QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 20 2012, 10:35 AM)
A preacher without its flock is no preacher....I was trampled badly...hehe...

Unfortunately the one I preached to never seems to respond. One who responded to seems to think he had better idea on lube weight, so I malas liao...unlike here, daring to try anything to see which one actually perform better. Even prove me wrong after trying...haha...maybe new car, sayang.
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lol.. whats the post number? I go read and see.. Then let me exercise my sarcasm muscle or blast them back..

QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 20 2012, 10:42 AM)
One thing I ALWAYS like to laugh abt Preve is its start button module...I tot engine start button are supposed to SIMPLIFY start process. Open door, seat in car with transponder in pocket, just press start button. ONE STEP to start car.

Our usual start is 2 steps process, insert key and turn.

Preve superbly high tech start process.....insert KEY (wtf), step on brake (I think), then press start button....3 steps....is that not being regressive. Even if no need step brake (if I'm wrong), still 2 process AND actually take longer than conventional method....ie..insert key and IMMEDIATELY turn to start.....PREVE method...insert key, then HAVE to lift the hand and move to START BUTTON. Also start button has higher chances of malfunction then the tried and tested conventional key start method..

I don't get it..
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but the preve key fob is located just right beside the button.. so technically its insert the key fob and press the button while the leg automatically press the brakes.

But but PE also got start button what.. insert and turn key then press button to start.. Either way the button is super impressive to impressing girls who sit my car..
Mine whole button got light somemore..

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QUOTE(voscar @ Jul 20 2012, 10:43 AM)
i'm gen2 user but diving in persona thread....
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Hi there..

QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 20 2012, 10:48 AM)
Ok  blush.gif , I did not know that....it seems Preve start button steps even worse than I thought....question is why implement this feature that does not help in anyway for a modern car but actually makes it worse...
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Its actually a premium feature lah.. it makes the car looks premium mah.. Customer wants it, Proton have to give it loh..

QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 20 2012, 11:27 AM)
But honestly, preve is of a different class, bigger seat, more spacious, better sound insulation, etc. If you get H-Line, I understand lar, but b-line insulation not very good ler, even M-Line AND h-Line insulation makes quite a big difference between them. Brake pump of B and M line also not up to par vs H-Line.

So downgrading purchase option from Preve to PE-B-M line does not makes sense.....although if you urgently need car then no choice. Most PE problem already solved. Those still there are minor only. Currently the only problem I got with my PE is a bit of dashboard rattling, all previous issue causing headache solved by itself or manually.

Otherwise, I would wait a year or 2 for either SE or FL to appear then buy then...
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Not exactly. with RM2k, im able to insulate PE way way better than Preve. Using STP gold for 4 doors, STP vibratron for the floor board and STP Mastic for insulation for all 4 fenders. THe car will sound super premium. THen another RM100 for wind noise insulation bu buying the D rubber thingy to stick around the doors.


QUOTE(dares @ Jul 20 2012, 11:35 AM)
Actually is insert key fob -> press button with brakes done already.

They came up with the process to see if they can avoid the OWV issue.

EDIT : TBH, I also dunno why Proton dun do it like Forte, no need to insert key fob  doh.gif
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What about the OWV issue?

Forte those keyless start needs slightly expensive transmitter.. Preve have to cut cost..
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post Jul 20 2012, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jul 20 2012, 01:14 PM)
What about the OWV issue?
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Cold start got macam diesel engine sound.

Didn't know your car have push start button drool.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 20 2012, 01:30 PM)
Cold start got macam diesel engine sound.
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lol.. I wouldnt mind if it came with diesel engine amount of torque.. hehe.

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