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TSAphraelJC
post Jun 9 2012, 08:01 PM, updated 14y ago

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Hi , i've been playin BF3 for few months on my 4 year old pc.
the game was manageable though not the smoothest but still playable..fps between 30-40...
but recently with the new premium launched with new maps and all...
i been thinking if i can upgrade some components of my pc to make the game much smoother...
my pc specs are:
Gigabyte DDR2 still
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0Ghz
2 GB memory ram
GeForce 8800GT 512mb
500wt power supply

my budget should be below 1k.

ps: im not very good with these hardware stuff... D:

thanks for the reply biggrin.gif
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post Jun 9 2012, 08:35 PM

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urm..

Hyper 212+
2GB DDR2 Kingston
HD7850

that is all if you ask me
to upgrade your procs and mobo need a higher mobo
for now
stick with 4GB RAM
and learn how to overclock your processor and it will run smooth with HD7850

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post Jun 9 2012, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Jun 9 2012, 08:35 PM)
urm..

Hyper 212+
2GB DDR2 Kingston
HD7850

that is all if you ask me
to upgrade your procs and mobo need a higher mobo
for now
stick with 4GB RAM
and learn how to overclock your processor and it will run smooth with HD7850
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thanks! smile.gif i'll look into it
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post Jun 9 2012, 10:09 PM

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1stly change the GC to HD7970 , and upgrade ram to 4-8gb , buy a cooler for your processor to play with overclock . total cost would be around RM1.5-2.5k depending on what brand of GC u bought
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QUOTE(pspslim007 @ Jun 9 2012, 10:09 PM)
1stly change the GC to HD7970 , and upgrade ram to 4-8gb , buy a cooler for your processor to play with overclock . total cost would be around RM1.5-2.5k depending on what brand of GC u bought
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DDR2 hard to find 1x 4Gb hmm.gif pricey some more.

TS, look at my PC build in signature. I use it to play @ 1024x768 (I think) and get decent FPS with it.
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post Jun 10 2012, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(pspslim007 @ Jun 9 2012, 10:09 PM)
1stly change the GC to HD7970 , and upgrade ram to 4-8gb , buy a cooler for your processor to play with overclock . total cost would be around RM1.5-2.5k depending on what brand of GC u bought
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....dude are you high?
the processor will totally bottleneck HD7970 performance and not to mention that power supply of Ts might be generic and not 80+
4GB of DDR2 is more expensive then 4GB DDR3 so in the end i would say total upgrading system would reach RM3k
if overhaul the system it will reach up to RM2k
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post Jun 10 2012, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Jun 10 2012, 08:53 AM)
....dude are you high?
the processor will totally bottleneck HD7970 performance and not to mention that power supply of Ts might be generic and not 80+
4GB of DDR2 is more expensive then 4GB DDR3 so in the end i would say total upgrading system would reach RM3k
if overhaul the system it will reach up to RM2k
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i will try to understand what you are trying to say here , so basically you are saying that his processor would affect the HD7970 ? , well if thats the case then i have to agree , but bare in mind he said as low as possible the budget , what i am trying to give him is a suggestion to slowly upgrade his pc , yes 7970 is pricy but once you cleared on GC , you can just spend another 500-1k on motherboard and a decent processor , but i am not so sure on how far the dual core will pull down a HD7970 , but i do know it should be able to run on high at decent FPS . One last thing to mention is the RAM if you think that rm 20-30 is very big deal , then might as well give up on overhauling or upgrade your pc , think about it , if you can spend around 3k or more at 1st to build a pc , why don`t go all the way .

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QUOTE(pspslim007 @ Jun 10 2012, 12:26 PM)
i will try to understand what you are trying to say here , so basically you are saying that his processor would affect the HD7970 ? , well if thats the case then i have to agree , but bare in mind he said as low as possible the budget , what i am trying to give him is a suggestion to slowly upgrade his pc , yes 7970 is pricy but once you cleared on GC , you can just spend another 500-1k on motherboard and a decent processor , but i am not so sure on how far the dual core will pull down a HD7970 , but i do know it should be able to run on high at decent FPS .
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Im seriously try to understand you here

do you know that battlefield 3 is a processor heavy as well? not only graphic card heavy?
While we still can tone down gpu needs such as details and AA but processor is different because even if you set it at minimum resolution
its still depends on processor to run the games
that why even i3 2100 + HD2000 can pull a decent fps on lowest resolution possible
not to mention Ts budget is only RM1k below
budget is there for a reason and ignoring such reason and offering only GPU,a single hardware that cost RM1.5k minimum is too much isn't it?


Added on June 10, 2012, 12:38 pm
QUOTE(pspslim007 @ Jun 10 2012, 12:26 PM)
i will try to understand what you are trying to say here , so basically you are saying that his processor would affect the HD7970 ? , well if thats the case then i have to agree , but bare in mind he said as low as possible the budget , what i am trying to give him is a suggestion to slowly upgrade his pc , yes 7970 is pricy but once you cleared on GC , you can just spend another 500-1k on motherboard and a decent processor , but i am not so sure on how far the dual core will pull down a HD7970 , but i do know it should be able to run on high at decent FPS . One last thing to mention is the RAM if you think that rm 20-30 is very big deal , then might as well give up on overhauling or upgrade your pc , think about it , if you can spend around 3k or more at 1st to build a pc , why don`t go all the way .
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you forgot to mention power supply
indeed HD7970 is capable to run on 500W power supply but only if it is 80+ certified
without that knowledge or information regarding Ts is power supply brand or type
offering a Highest is GPU is indeed seem abit too much.

i do not offer changing motherboard at all
just upgrading GPU to HD7850 that can run up to High at 60fps and Ultra with some settings lowered down
overclocking the processor with third party cooler to make it less bottleneck HD7850


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post Jun 10 2012, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Jun 10 2012, 12:34 PM)
Im seriously try to understand you here

do you know that battlefield 3 is a processor heavy as well? not only graphic card heavy?
While we still can tone down gpu needs such as details and AA but processor is different because even if you set it at minimum resolution
its still depends on processor to run the games
that why even i3 2100 + HD2000 can pull a decent fps on lowest resolution possible
not to mention Ts budget is only RM1k below
budget is there for a reason and ignoring such reason and offering only GPU,a single hardware that cost RM1.5k minimum is too much isn't it?


Added on June 10, 2012, 12:38 pm
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you forgot to mention power supply
indeed HD7970 is capable to run on 500W power supply but only if it is 80+ certified
without that knowledge or information regarding Ts is power supply brand or type
offering a Highest is GPU is indeed seem abit too much.

i do not offer changing motherboard at all
just upgrading GPU to HD7850 that can run up to High at 60fps and Ultra with some settings lowered down
overclocking the processor with third party cooler to make it less bottleneck HD7850
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we can clearly see that both of us have different mind set , but an i3 2100 +HD2 series pull off ultra !!!! , it is absurd , i do want to see it runs on a decent FPS with that spec , you also do know and clearly stated BF3 requires a heavy processor , i don`t see an i3 with HD2 series can pull that off . as for the choices that the person who needs help regarding his pc , now he have 2 option , either go for yours or mine , and if so to speak that an i3 with HD2 series be able to pull ultra off with a decent FPS , i must say that person would be overclock expert to pull that off , but bare in mind the risk if you have little amount of knowledge regarding overclocking and such , it would not help you but fry your pc . long story short , person with a little knowledge of overclock will lead to more money spend on replacing parts then saving it .
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post Jun 10 2012, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(pspslim007 @ Jun 10 2012, 01:14 PM)
we can clearly see that both of us have different mind set , but an i3 2100 +HD2 series pull off ultra !!!! , it is absurd , i do want to see it runs on a decent FPS with that spec , you also do know and clearly stated BF3 requires a heavy processor , i don`t see an i3 with HD2 series can pull that off . as for the choices that the person who needs help regarding his pc , now he have 2 option , either go for yours or mine , and if so to speak that an i3 with HD2 series be able to pull ultra off with a decent FPS , i must say that person would be overclock expert to pull that off , but bare in mind the risk if you have little amount of knowledge regarding overclocking and such , it would not help you but fry your pc . long story short , person with a little knowledge of overclock will lead to more money spend on replacing parts then saving it .
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dude i stop reading half way
wtf wrong with you?


Added on June 10, 2012, 1:25 pmTs you can clearly ignore pspslim007

i3 2100 can't overclock as its multiplier is locked and he doesn't even know this facts

not to mention ignoring facts that i state that i3 2100 is able to run bf3 on lowest resolution
Thus not answering my question regarding his judgement of suggesting HD7970 as GTX670 is much cheaper at RM1.4k is also not consider is a person with lack of knowledge

This post has been edited by Neo|ofGeo: Jun 10 2012, 01:27 PM
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post Jun 10 2012, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Jun 10 2012, 01:18 PM)
dude i stop reading half way
wtf wrong with you?


Added on June 10, 2012, 1:25 pmTs you can clearly ignore pspslim007

i3 2100 can't overclock as its multiplier is locked

not to mention ignoring facts that i state that i3 2100 is able to run bf3 on lowest resolution
Thus not answering my question regarding his judgement of suggesting HD7970 as GTX670 is much cheaper at RM1.4k is also not consider is a person with lack of knowledge
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then it somehow backs up my point , an i3 2100 which you mention cant be overclock with a HD2 series to run BF3 is a total waste , so i must ask what is wrong with u ?
and somehow i found something interesting http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1878823/all , please provide your expert opinion .

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QUOTE(pspslim007 @ Jun 10 2012, 01:27 PM)
then it somehow backs up my point , an i3 2100 which you mention cant be overclock with a HD2 series to run BF3 is a total waste , so i must ask what is wrong with u ?
and somehow i found something interesting http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1878823/all , please provide your expert opinion .
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dude...
i don't know how much how fail are you in this.
Does 150mhz bring any difference?
did i ever mention purchasing i3 2100 btw?

im thinking of writing short but figuring how skillfull you are

i3 2100 have Locked Multiplier that only allow small boost by increase voltage up to 150mhz maximum and no further and you need a P67 or higher chipset motherboard in order to do or its practically useless and its doesn't come in the budget



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post Jun 10 2012, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Jun 10 2012, 01:38 PM)
dude...
i don't know how much how fail are you in this.
Does 150mhz bring any difference?
did i ever mention purchasing i3 2100 btw?
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you stated that an i3 2100 with a HD2series would run BF3 perfectly , and i3 2100 cannot be overclock , and tried to insult me with your overly high confidence on your knowledge for PC , so i must say your ego has blinded your judgement . I do hope this will make you realize that we are here not to boast on our knowledge , we are here to help the TS on his requirement for a decent upgrade .

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Jun 10 2012, 12:34 PM)
Im seriously try to understand you here

do you know that battlefield 3 is a processor heavy as well? not only graphic card heavy?
While we still can tone down gpu needs such as details and AA but processor is different because even if you set it at minimum resolution
its still depends on processor to run the games

that why even i3 2100 + HD2000 can pull a decent fps on lowest resolution possible
not to mention Ts budget is only RM1k below
budget is there for a reason and ignoring such reason and offering only GPU,a single hardware that cost RM1.5k minimum is too much isn't it?


Added on June 10, 2012, 12:38 pm
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you forgot to mention power supply
indeed HD7970 is capable to run on 500W power supply but only if it is 80+ certified
without that knowledge or information regarding Ts is power supply brand or type
offering a Highest is GPU is indeed seem abit too much.

i do not offer changing motherboard at all
just upgrading GPU to HD7850 that can run up to High at 60fps and Ultra with some settings lowered down
overclocking the processor with third party cooler to make it less bottleneck HD7850
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you stated that an i3 2100 with a HD2series would run BF3 perfectly , and i3 2100 cannot be overclock , and tried to insult me with your overly high confidence on your knowledge for PC , so i must say your ego has blinded your judgement . I do hope this will make you realize that we are here not to boast on our knowledge , we are here to help the TS on his requirement for a decent upgrade .

Do you know even a know decent fps range from?
its 30fps until 60fps
i don't know how much knowledge you have in hardware and game benchmark
not to mention the idea of understanding what i am trying to say

i make example of i3 2100 is because it is Sandy Bridge Dual Core that using hyperthreading technology to stimulate its thread to become a quad core and this make this processor more powerful to enough compare with processor from generation before such as i5 750
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=109

not to suggest to Ts to buy that
my suggestion was

Hyper 212+ > To overclock
2GB DDR2 Kingston > 4GB to be smooth on Bf3
HD7850 > Enough to power up battlefield 3 on high settings with stable 60fps

then tell me again
what's is your problem dude?
suggesting HD7970



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post Jun 10 2012, 02:50 PM

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i support u Neo|ofGeo smile.gif
suggesting a HD7970 is ridiculous...

as for TS, what resolution will u be playing the bf3 with??
at least upgrade the ram to 4gb...
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Uhhh... basicalllyyyyyyyyyyy. Let's say, even if TS upgrades to 7970.... can he even get more FPS than let's say..... 7850? I mean, the CPU is bottlenecking atm. A small upgrade, probably a Quad Core will help a bit but I ain't too sure bout that. Since TS's budget is only 1k, I'd suggest staying away from powerful cards as much as possible and concentrate at least more on the processor. Or get the 7850 card first before changing the entire system to Core i series.
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post Jun 11 2012, 01:23 PM

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Bro,just angkat sapphire HD6850(RM 500++) + upgrade processor to i3 + 2GB RAM
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post Jun 11 2012, 05:27 PM

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My opinion.

1. Get a quad core CPU. A dual core CPU can't even BC2 very well.
2. RAM if can get 8GB. Otherwise 4GB will also do wonder
3. If your resolution is low (i.e. non-full HD) you can get any Radeon 700 series. 900 series is overkill for a low end CPU. Like 6750 or so

See my CPUZ spec below for my system. I am using a GTX460.

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And also SSD for loading purpose...
Mine processor is Phenom II 955 Quad Core 4GB Ram, Sapphire 6750
Every map changing take around 3-5 minutes except on Rush (Atk and Def Switch)
Really cant stand the loading time,
any SSD user here can show if there any difference?
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my system with BF3 on all low, and nothing else running except for chrome, uses about 4.5gb of ram.
i had 4gb ram before, but stupid win7 task manager always showed 3.3gb used only, and which i later found out was not accurate since i was wondering why still so slow if still got enough ram.
after i put 2gb more, then can see it was actually up to 4.5gb...means before the excess was eating into my system pagefile slowing the system down.
so yea, in short go get 6gb ram.


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