while that holds true for other clubs, what i said is based on my observation. for whatever reason that i cant fathom... its not working for us... i cant recall any player that we loaned out came back and fit into our first team. correct me if i'm wrong but did the likes of kelly and robinson loaned out before? which is why i'm bit worried about the rumors that sterling is heading out on loan...

This post has been edited by Petre: Jul 24 2012, 12:07 AM

y ppl in this thread like to write very long long one.... @___@"....you liverpool supporter mostly book writer kaa?

this shows that we are a true supporter and reds in our hearts .. do you think we will post something that long in another club's thread ? although I seldom post something long in here

Difference in "quality" is more like it

Liverpool can today confirm Toni Silva has completed a transfer to Barnsley, subject to confirmation from the relevant footballing bodies.

Most definitely. Money has also created football mercenaries. It is so common nowadays to hear about players refusing to play or train to force a move that is self serving. Teams may poach young players but these young players also want to leave for a bigger pay packet. I mean who wouldn't? If another company offered you a lucrative salary, would you not leave? I would. We can talk about loyalty all we want but it's easy for us to expect players to stay put and not move for money because we aren't in their shoes. Everyone has a price in the end.

This is why I'm actually very supportive of the HG rule and Financial Fairplay. The implementation of both will force clubs to look to their own academies.

Well it is a discussion forum and not a chat room ma.

Yeah, I can fully understand what you're trying to put across here. Times when certain individuals and/or group within the committee has an overiding authority over decisons, it becomes authoritative and will blur the overall vision of the club and causes the eroding trust and support of members. I believe a progressive club is one that takes in all positive opinions and ideas and to put a plan in place and actions put into motion based on consensus decision, and that everthing done is for the club members and no self - serving interest. Alas, it's easier said than done.

Ok, let's move beyond LSCM and make this forum one of the most active. Last check we're lying in 8th place in Football Lounge section in terms of total replies - Barcelona (2,269), Inter Milan (2,331), Roma (2,083), Juventus (2,068), Newcastle (1,292), Real Madrid (1,112), Man City (1,110). Liverpool (965) ........ Let's gather all friends and relatives to join this forum so that we can all express our opinions, happiness and joy or vent our frustrations on anything everything that has gotto do with LFC, whichever way we like it. Lol.

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Added on July 24, 2012, 4:52 pmWell said. Post lonnnnnnnnnnng ............... lonnnnnnnnnng needs time and effort. Keep the lonnnnnnnnng ................. lonnnnnnnnnnng replies flowing man, otherwise, nothing much to ramble on with one tag line replies.

This post has been edited by redkop63: Jul 24 2012, 04:52 PM

Sturidge was loaned out to Bolton who plays in the premier league.

Most of our youngster were being sent down to clubs in the Championship, 2nd division. Only senior players like Cole and Aqulani benefited from loan moves to Lille and Ac Milan.

So, I guess that's why the youngster didn't gain much upon returning from their loan spells.

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Added on July 24, 2012, 5:47 pmFinancial fair play may help to a certain extent, it's definitely not fool proof. As you can see, rich clubs are hiring accountants and lawyers to look for the loop holes that can be found in the rule. I doubt teams like Chelski and Citeh will fully comply. Still, it's better than nothing though.

This post has been edited by weichieh007: Jul 24 2012, 05:48 PM

Never bothered mych about how many replies we generate to be honest. I advocate quality over quantity. Not particularly fond of one liners which provide absolutely no insight and serve no purpose. We used to get a lot more of those around here some time back. As you can see, lengthy discussions can be deemed boring.

It isn't but it is a step in the right direction. The teams you've mentioned recorded nett losses last season which is pretty clear cut. You cannot spend more than you earn.

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Added on July 24, 2012, 6:09 pmHmm not so sure I like this. $10 million for a bloke who doesn't score goals and get that many assists, and losing Jonjo for a whole season. Would have liked to have seen him claim a first team place next season ahead of the likes of Adam and Henderson.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1269652...y-for-joe-allen

This post has been edited by Duke Red: Jul 24 2012, 06:09 PM

Jonjo is much better than Spearing, why dun Spearing get the Loan Spell?

a) Swansea want Jonjo and not Spearing in exhange for Allen
b) If Lucas were injured, I'd rather see Spearing shielding the back four than Adam

Sincerely, i would like to see Jonjo play alongside Gerrard, they are of the same mould and Jonjo is younger and he dare to be adventurous like our Captain, just see how well he played last Mon morning

[quote=Duke Red,Jul 24 2012, 06:06 PM]
Never bothered mych about how many replies we generate to be honest. I advocate quality over quantity. Not particularly fond of one liners which provide absolutely no insight and serve no purpose. We used to get a lot more of those around here some time back. As you can see, lengthy discussions can be deemed boring.
It isn't but it is a step in the right direction. The teams you've mentioned recorded nett losses last season which is pretty clear cut. You cannot spend more than you earn.

Quality is subjective while quantity correlates directly with the numbers actually involved in a forum while lengthy discussions can be useful instead of a one or two tag lines. In essence, there's no right or wrong, some would just like to expresses their thoughts with the minimum words while others rambled longer on issues that they are passionate of. Clubs can spend more than they earn, they must find a way to balance the books eventually, that's the difference between Glasgow Rangers (how sad) and Chelsea/Man City.

Guys what time is the game against Roma?any livestream?

Agreed, Jonjo is the nearest thing to Stevie as much as I can see and feel and is definitely a better option compared to Spearing. Spearing more often than not were seconds too late to cover the back four or put in a tackle while he's neither fast enough nor physically strong enough to be an effective defensive midfielder. I believe, he'll struggle when he comes up against fast and robust players as what we saw last season that led to many of his rash tackles as he was desperate to make up lost grounds that led to the yellow cards and red card. He's a good player but he'll not be in my long term plans, at least in my very own opinion. Jonjo's still raw but I saw improvements all round and he harrassed opposing player at every given opportunity. Could be along term successor to captain fantastic if he continues to learn from our fabulous captain.

Thu morning, Boleland time, abt 6.00am

Lucas is different, he is more robust and can run faster...........btw, on a lighter note, Carroll can be as good too as he is stronger and taller........but 35million for a Centerback is a wee bit expensive but then again better than to loan him out, we can pay him his wages, no problem though........( i knoe u guys will shoot me with this proposal )

Thursday haa,i tot tonite lol,ok thanks

Not easy to differentiate a quality post i.e. one that contains insights, to nonsensical one liners. There is a reason the forum no longer keeps post count. Some juveniles were posting just to gain a little status.

Yes Chelsea and Man City have shown they can operate at a nett loss simply because they have owners who max loads of money through other channels. The gulf between the top clubs and the rest of the league is growing ever larger and something needs to be done to restore some semblance of parity.

ha...its good to be back after going AWOL...my take on liverpool is, perhaps BR could have handle certain situation better...perse...Carroll situation, just felt kinda awkward...for him and supporters...imagine in his shoe that after performing decently during the Euro...only to return to uncertainty....cant we go back to the Liverpool way of finalizing things before leak out any news...the same with borrini transfer...its not like the old days where things are done, hand shaken before announcement...Hope no one will turn against BR, but if Carroll's issue is allow to drag...it culd backfire against BR... and again the case with Sigurdsson...if we are not 100% sure of capturing his signature - why endorse the blardy player...if he thinks he is well off with Spurs...so be it...just a few things which annoys me lately...

Well at least BR solved one area of concern which is the strikeforce...we dont have enough striker...eventho i would prefer Sturridge over Borrini...but i think BR will know better as both players came from Chelski....

I personally dont think that there will be big signing...hope the Americans proves me wrong...but it is Liverpool's tradition to have at least 1 big signature capture every season - with or without CL...i certainly hope this tradition to go on...we badly need a boost...and i dont consider Aqua and Cole return is like 'new' signings...

The Euros - i certainly saw a few prospect players who perform decently during the Euros, but somehow good prospects seems to elude Liverpool FC - i dont see us being linked to any of them...and somehow German clubs are much quicker in signing player with potential...which makes me wonder , are we really investing in youth players with potential or are we going for established player or are we stuck with inbetweeners.....

I must confess...i havent notice Joe Allen with Swansea, as I only follow the REds...but to invest in someone the club is holding out for more than 10million, and still unproven...thanks but no thanks...would rather stick with Jonjo...

My wish list is actually Affellay...as i feel this guy is clever enough to play in between strikers and midfield...a better bet than J.Cole, and Suarezeque kinda player, who can operate the wings as well.....

Just my tot...ohh and the long thread..well, i dont believe in 1 liners, as it tends to be sarcastic and trying to be funny....and most important i welcome constructive criticism if any...