It seems Foundation programs for entry into medicine is becoming trendy. This is another...reminds me of MUFY somewhat.

http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/elt/foundation/medicine/

I suppose if you want to go to the US, it would be worthwhile to do USMLE. Any new developments in the internship crisis?

Will they get a ST Andrew's medical degree or Manchester's?

This post has been edited by podrunner: Aug 15 2013, 08:39 AM

MMC seem to be another useless body, according to this article.

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...-dr-subra-told/

@cckkpr, how do the med students in UGlasgow know how they rank in their cohort for the respective years? I know during the final year, there are decile rankings for all unis.

Ok, thanks. I think it's good to know where one stand. 5 of the Malaysians had to go back early for resits, at relative's uni.

Mixed bag of written papers and OSCEs, apparently.

You have PM.

The minority of the scholars, on the other hand, do very well.

I would hate to imagine the number of cases that go unreported.

If I'm the patient, I would have jabbed the doctor with something with my last once of energy before passing out! 2 hours post op, still on intravenous drip with painkiller I hope!

More new medical schools!?!?

"Earlier in his speech, Dr. Subramaniam said the ministry was working closely with the Malaysian Medical Council and Education Ministry on the approvals for new medical schools in Malaysia"

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia...cialist-doctors

How exactly would having more new medical schools circumvent the issue of too many doctors with little training?

"Competent" medical spots do NOT solve availability of training spots.

This post has been edited by podrunner: Aug 19 2013, 10:59 PM

Curious enough to google?

No apologies required.
Maybe, just maybe not every doctor in the UK is specially in it for the money? Or do you mean malaysians wanting to practice in the UK? The nephrologist is in his 50s, and the scenario when he graduated and specialised is no longer the same today. In the UK, if one works for the NHS as a specialist, the salary is between 75k and 100k sterling, per annum.

Man up, admit that there are too many medical graduates now and in the coming years, that the issue of insufficient training spots will become insufficient. And that perhaps there was an oversight in having so many medical schools in the country. That would be a start, but that would be too much to expect.

When you work in the UK, you spend in the UK, and the question of "converting back" do not arise. Re specialists in Malaysia, read limeuu's comment above.

Doctors make a DECENT living in the UK, and the majority of the Brits do it because they are interested in the job! Where are you getting the idea that its "glamorous to be a doctor in the UK"? At most, I will only go so far to say it's a noble and a respectable job.

Forgot to add, it's probably not a good idea to mortgage the family home to send the child to the UK for medicine. If said child is really interested, try and do it locally.

This post has been edited by podrunner: Aug 20 2013, 12:31 AM

The most important consideration, as far as I am concerned, is the recognition of the medical degree from a PROPER and established medical school. IMU local, from what I gather, seem to be among the best local IPTS, so if your brother is intent on just practicing in Malaysia, where according to you, he will "eventually make more money" , then just do the local program.

Training - a medical degree is almost worthless without proper housemanship/internship training. IF those studying in UK/Aus get a spot for training (no guarantees due to reported saturation), there is an assurance of junior doctor competency upon registration with GMC/AMC. Since there is no guarantee that your brother will be able to train there after graduating, another plus point for IMU local? He may still get a housemanship post in 5/6 years from now, and it would probably be a rural posting WHICH makes for a decent multi-discipline training. Heck, he may be king in a small village! Another plus?

Some stay back in UK/Aus because they were trained in the system, and after spending that many years abroad, would probably have grown accustomed to life abroad, PLUS the fact that after the immigration status hurdle, they compete for specialty training etc on a level playing field. Some debate whether or not they should come back to be close to family, but I see less doing so from now (if they have a choice), in light of current developments in the healthcare industry.

IF your brother is doing it for the money, please DON'T do it...those days are long gone...all but a distant memory.

This post has been edited by podrunner: Aug 20 2013, 08:29 AM