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TSkiwishan
post May 26 2012, 12:02 PM, updated 14y ago

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I am mislead by a agent in 2009, now ady 4 years, I have paid RM7200, he promote me the mesra plan and claim that this is saving plan and can withdraw anytimes i wish, now i just realise is life insurance plan... mad.gif Omg!!!I can only get back RM1000++, I have complaint to Takaful and they refuse to pay back the money and will not entertain my appeal anymore. I go to this website and found many of people have been cheated by agent by giving wrong information of the plan to earn commision, details you can go to Don't get cheated: Etiqa Takaful Mesra Plan

Any one is same situation with me and still haven't claim the full refund? Please complaint to bank negara and Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri.My another insurance agent said together we complaint, the higher the chance we can get back our money, what you should do now:

1. send an email with title Complaint Misleading by Etiqa Takaful agent to bank negara, email address: bnmtelelink@bnm.gov.my

2. send a complaint letter to Takaful Etiqa customer services centre, but they will probably tell you they will not return the full amount, or same situation with me, ask me wait 2 weeks and send a letter said they refuse to refund and will not entertain the appeal anymore.

3. Go to this website, click hantar e-aduan baru, fill in the e-aduan and your details case to Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri, they will reply you very soon,
E-aduan

Just want to help those who are same situation with me but don't know how to do. sad.gif Thank you...Good luck~ cry.gif


Added on May 26, 2012, 12:05 pm

this is the sample of complaint to kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri:



IN (date), I WAS MISLEADED BY ONE OF THE AGENT OF TAKAFUL TO JOIN THE TAKAFUL MESRA PLAN, IN (place), NAME (name), IC (Ic no), (alternative)HP NO , (position, exp:GROUP SALES MANAGER OF SECURE CORPORATE SERVICES SDN BHD).

HE GIVE ME THE WRONG INFORMATION , BY SAYING THAT THIS IS A TYPE OF HIGH INTEREST SAVING PLAN THAT OPENED FOR MUSLIM ONLY BEFORE, AND NOW OPEN FOR NON-MUSLIM FOR LIMITED TIME ONLY. HE TOLD ME THAT THE PLAN IS VERY BENEFITIAL, IS A SAVING PLAN, YOU SAVE RM200 PER MONTH AND CAN GET HIGH INTEREST RATE OF AT LEAST 5% PA, AND HE SHOW ME THAT IF YOU CAN PUT FOR 30 YEARS, YOU CAN TOTALLY GET RM 165,517.24 AT THE END OF THE 30 YEARS.
HE ALSO TOLD ME I CAN WITHDRAW ALL THE MONEY I SAVE ANYTIME I WISH AND I CAN STOP SAVING OR TERMINATE ANYTIME I WISH, WITH FULL WITHDRAW OF PREMIUM AND SAVINGS.

RECENTLY, I WAS FACING SOME FINANCIAL PROBLEM AND I WISH TO TAKE OUT MY SAVING IN THIS ETIQA MESRA PLAN. HOWEVER, AFTER CALLING THE HELPLINE CENTRE, I ONLY FOUND THAT THE PLAN I PURCHASED IS A LIFE INSURANCE PLAN AND NOT A SAVING PLAN. I CANNOT TAKE OUT MY PREMIUM PAID TO SOLVE MY FINANCIAL PROBLEM NOW.

I COMPLAINT TO THE CUSTOMER SERVICES CENTRE AND THE HEAD OFFICE, THEY REFUSE TO REFUND THE MONEY TO ME AND SEND ME A LETTER SAID THAT THIS IS THEIR FINAL DECISION, THEY WILL NOT ENTERTAIN ANY APPEAL OF THIS MATTER AND ADVISE ME TO CONTINUE THE PLAN.

I'M NOT SATISFY WITH THE REPLY, AND FEEL LIKE BEING CHEATED. HOPE YOUR PARTY CAN HELP ME REGARDING THIS MATTER. I HAVE ALSO FORWARDED THE COMPLAINT TO BANK NEGARA AT THE SAME TIME.


Added on May 26, 2012, 12:08 pmThis is the sample to Bank Negara

Dear Sir

Complaint about Etiqa Takaful Mesra Plan


I, (name, IC), would like to complaint about
misleading selling concept provided by Etiqa agent and request for full
premium refund for my Etiqa Mesra Plan(Policy No) by agent
(Name, agent no ).



2. On (date), I was convinced to purchase the Etiqa Mesra Plan by
entire agent at (place). The agent, (name) told me that
this is a saving plan with high return and I can stop this plan anytime
with my entire premium paid fully refunded.



3. Recently, I was facing some financial problem and I wish to take out my saving in this Etiqa Mesra Plan. However, after calling the helpline
centre, I only found that the plan I purchased is a life insurance plan and
not a saving plan. I cannot take out my premium paid to solve my financial problem now.

4. I have complaint my matter to Etiqa Takaful Berhad, however, they refuse to refund the full amount I paid, and said that they will not entertain this matter anymore.

5. Etiqa as a big company in Malaysia, I hope that Etiqa will allow me to
stop this plan as soon as possible with my entire premium refunded. I hope that Bank Negara can take some action against the misleading selling concept provided by Etiqa agent.


5. My contact number is (contact no), address: (home)


Hope can receive good news from you soon.



Thank you.

Regards,
Name

This post has been edited by kiwishan: May 26 2012, 12:08 PM
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post Jun 22 2012, 07:20 PM

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What is the outcome of your complaint to BNM and KPDN?

I am also a victim. I wrote to Etiqa but they refused to refund any money.

All of us who are victims, need to make formal complaints to the relevant authority and governing bodies so that they are aware of this scam and stop the perpetrators. We need to help others so they do not become a victim like us.

Other avenues of complaint:

1. Tribunal for Consumer Claims Malaysia: http://ttpm.kpdnkk.gov.my/portal/index.php...ntpage&Itemid=1

2. Malaysian Takaful Association which governs the Takaful industry: http://www.malaysiantakaful.com.my

3. Financial Planning Association of Malaysia (FPAM) which governs CFP and IFP practitioners: http://www.fpam.org.my/fpam/contact-us/com...and-procedures/


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post Jun 22 2012, 08:08 PM

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It is always sad when that happens. Insurance is about protection, coverage, hence the word I N S U R A N C E.

Insurance comes with insurance charges, agent commission, admin fees and what not in order to support for the policies. No free lunch. Sorry.

Always read and understand what the agents are trying to sell. Get second opinion if needed as insurance is a long term commitment, like your car insurance. Simply put - No pay = no drive.
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post Jun 22 2012, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Jun 22 2012, 08:08 PM)
It is always sad when that happens. Insurance is about protection, coverage, hence the word I N S U R A N C E.

Insurance comes with insurance charges, agent commission, admin fees and what not in order to support for the policies. No free lunch. Sorry.

Always read and understand what the agents are trying to sell. Get second opinion if needed as insurance is a long term commitment, like your car insurance. Simply put - No pay = no drive.
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Etiqa is well know as insurance company by public... Still people feel cheated do transaction with insurance company... Omg!
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post Jun 27 2012, 12:52 PM

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etiqa , another scam
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post Jun 27 2012, 01:30 PM

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It is not about scam.. It is usually between the agents and the clients.

It is either the agent was wrong or the client did not understand what they were into.

The awareness in buying insurance is very important as many people do not do more research before buying and this led to a bad choice made.
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post Jul 3 2012, 01:15 PM

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Same buy this stupid plant since december 09 every Month pay rm 100.....any idea if I surrender the contract and get back my saving?
TSkiwishan
post Jul 3 2012, 05:05 PM

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I fail to get back my money and i already terminate the plan...Haiz...Be wise nextime lo, what to do...
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post Jul 4 2012, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(kiwishan @ Jul 3 2012, 05:05 PM)
I fail to get back my money and i already terminate the plan...Haiz...Be wise nextime lo, what to do...
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I'm sorry for that. Insurance is never meant for investment but rather protection. You should be able to get back some amount, since it has been the 4th year, although not in full.
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post Jul 5 2012, 01:17 AM

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Dear all,

1. I signed up for the eTiqa Takaful Family Plan, which I was told was offered for a limited time, how true is this?

2. I was told that I am going to pay until I am 55 years old only. And I will be insured until I am 88 years old.

So the question is, how much money can I withdraw when it matures? Can I withdraw all my savings?

3. I am looking for a plan with savings + protection. Am I on the right track?

4. I still have 2 months of premium in due, so if I want to cancel or surrender the contract, will I be forced to pay this 2 months premium in due? As I have some kind of feeling that I was mislead by the agent. Do I have a case if I sue or complaint them?


That's the questions I can think as of now, I am not saying that this plan is not good, but I felt that I am somehow mislead by the agents too. Hope insurance pros here can clarify things for me.

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post Jul 5 2012, 07:36 AM

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QUOTE(+welve @ Jul 5 2012, 01:17 AM)
Dear all,

1. I signed up for the eTiqa Takaful Family Plan, which I was told was offered for a limited time, how true is this?

2. I was told that I am going to pay until I am 55 years old only. And I will be insured until I am 88 years old.

So the question is, how much money can I withdraw when it matures? Can I withdraw all my savings?

3. I am looking for a plan with savings + protection. Am I on the right track?

4. I still have 2 months of premium in due, so if I want to cancel or surrender the contract, will I be forced to pay this 2 months premium in due? As I have some kind of feeling that I was mislead by the agent. Do I have a case if I sue or complaint them?
That's the questions I can think as of now, I am not saying that this plan is not good, but I felt that I am somehow mislead by the agents too. Hope insurance pros here can clarify things for me.
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This has been discussed and talked many times.

Please refer to post No. 50 by roystevenung - http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2394535/+40#
He has given a very good example and explanation here.

Hope it helps.
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post Jul 5 2012, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(+welve @ Jul 5 2012, 01:17 AM)
Dear all,

1. I signed up for the eTiqa Takaful Family Plan, which I was told was offered for a limited time, how true is this?

This question can only be answered by an eTiqa Takaful agent as at times, insurance company may have limited time when trying to promote their products. Think of it like Year End Sale :-)

Pardon my ignorance, but irrespective of whether the offer is limited time or not, getting yourself & family covered earlier should also be your main priority and not having to wait until YES, no?


2. I was told that I am going to pay until I am 55 years old only. And I will be insured until I am 88 years old.

I'm not familiar whether the eTiqa Takaful Family plan is an investment linked product but in general, if the plan do generates cash values, no one can guarantee that the payment is up until age 55 only for the cover to be able to last another 33 years of not paying the premium.

It depends on how much cash values has been accumulated throughout the payment term, the fund performance (or dividend gained) and more importantly HOW LONG you've been paying for the plan. For example if you're age 50 now when you signed up for this plan, this means there is only 5 years to pay for the policy. I can assure you if this is the case, there won't be sufficient cash value to take care of you until age 88.

This is because the first six years the insurance premium goes into paying for the agent commission (120-140% spread over 6 years period). But don't get angry my friend, we need to service you for as long as we can, have pity on us agents too sweat.gif

Do note that insurance charges GOES UP BY AGE, IRRESPECTIVE of when you get it. The older you get, the higher the insurance charges will be.

However, as a guide, if you would like to have an idea of whether the plan can last you throughout the term of the cover, take a look at the brochure on the insurance charges from age 55 onward till 88 versus the 'projected' cash value at that age. Deduct the insurance charges and calculate for yourself.

You should always insists on the brochure along with full quotation.

So the question is, how much money can I withdraw when it matures? Can I withdraw all my savings?


No, you can't withdraw (or even if you are able to, there'll only be very little left at the end of the term). Because for an insurance plan which you want to pay until age 55 and for it to last you till 88, I'd say that the cash values generated would be eventually used up to pay for the insurance charges.

If you withdraw, and the cash values in the policy is not enough to cover for the insurance charges, you'd lose the cover. Like your car insurance, if you still plan to drive at age 95, you'll still have to pay the insurance coverage. No pay = no drive, that is as blunt as I can get, no offense ya?


3. I am looking for a plan with savings + protection. Am I on the right track?

You should rephrase that to protection (health & medical) + future savings to help pay for my insurance charges to take care of my golden years when I am not able to work/retired. That sounds so much better :-)

4. I still have 2 months of premium in due, so if I want to cancel or surrender the contract, will I be forced to pay this 2 months premium in due?

If you cancel/surrender the contract, the outstanding premiums will be deducted from your cash values. How much you can get back depends on how long you've been paying for it.

Most insurance contract upon depletion of the cash value will self terminate after 30 days of due payment.

Do get a second opinion if you need to prior to surrender as you'll lose the coverage.


As I have some kind of feeling that I was mislead by the agent. Do I have a case if I sue or complaint them?

Unless you have everything in writing then you may have a case. Do talk to your lawyer if there is an evidence of a breach of the contract and the course of actions to take.


That's the questions I can think as of now, I am not saying that this plan is not good, but I felt that I am somehow mislead by the agents too. Hope insurance pros here can clarify things for me.

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post Jul 5 2012, 08:05 AM

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actually, during 2010 etiqa did send out letters to their mesra plan policy holders to allow them to do full refund if they feel cheated (may alot of cases that time). did you receive the letter?
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Just try to stay away from Etiqa overall despite how attractive their plan looks like on surface. I have had years of nightmare with them. And everything else you wish to not be with them anymore, comes with penalty and great difficulties.
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Plaintiff: Your Honour, I wish to complain that a certain agent of Etiqa misled me into buying a insurance product.

Defendant: Your Honour, I did not. Furthermore Your Honour, the plaintiff signed the contract (the policy) in 2009 and he did not raise any complain nor objection within the first 14 days also known as the "free look period". By signing on it and not raising any objection during the cooling off period indicate absolute agreement on the term of the contract.

Judge: Plaintiff, do you have any proof that the agent told you otherwise than what is written on the contract? Audio recording, signed document by the defendant to state otherwise?

Plaintiff: Errr.... no Your Honour.

Judge: Case dismiss, I now adjourned the court because the plaintiff's complain has no merits. All incidental cost to be borne by the plaintiff.

Defendant: Thank you, Your Honour.

Plaintiff: T 1 U N 1 A M A H !

Judge: Bailiff! Send this Plaintiff to the lock up for contempt of court! Court adjourned!

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