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TSsamowong
post May 25 2012, 11:18 AM, updated 14y ago

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Have been playing games on the Xbox for the past 2 weeks since the demise of my PS3, but just can't seem to get use to the layout of the x360 controller. I find the Lt analog stick placement awkward, causing strain in my palms as i struggle to balance the heavy controller and reach for the shoulder buttons at the same time while gaming. Any x360 veterans here who thinks otherwise? Or am i just holding it the wrong way.
The only substitute I can find is the Logitech f710 but it is for Windows. Any ideas?

This post has been edited by samowong: Jun 5 2012, 10:16 AM
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post May 25 2012, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(samowong @ May 25 2012, 11:18 AM)
Have been playing games on the Xbox for the past 2 weeks since the demise of my PS3, but just can't seem to get use to the layout of the x360 controller. I find the Lt analog stick placement awkward, causing strain in my palms as i struggle to balance the heavy controller and reach for the shoulder buttons at the same time while gaming. Any x360 veterans here who thinks otherwise? Or am i just holding it the wrong way.
The only substitute I can find is the Logitech f710 but it is for Windows. Any ideas?
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i am afraid the f710 is windows and ps3 only...

y did u leave the ps3 scene?
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post May 25 2012, 11:25 AM

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I've played PS1, PS2 and a bit of PS3 in the past and I've always found that the controller wasn't made for human hand. Xbox 360 controllers, IMHO, is by far the most comfortable to use with. Take more times, if you're going the 360 route for a long time, then you better get used to it. I can play non stop for more than 5 or 6 hours without feeling any strain to my fingers.

But maybe somebody else have different opinions blush.gif
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post May 25 2012, 12:24 PM

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it just need to get used too. i got use to x360 controller, i dont feel comfortable to ps3 controller
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post May 25 2012, 12:28 PM

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@ samowong - i believe u can find those adapters at play-asia that allows u to use ps3 controller on xbox360. like this one:
http://www.play-asia.com/Universal_Adapter...en-70-4nvl.html

QUOTE(FarCry3r @ May 25 2012, 11:25 AM)
I've played PS1, PS2 and a bit of PS3 in the past and I've always found that the controller wasn't made for human hand. Xbox 360 controllers, IMHO, is by far the most comfortable to use with. Take more times, if you're going the 360 route for a long time, then you better get used to it. I can play non stop for more than 5 or 6 hours without feeling any strain to my fingers.

But maybe somebody else have different opinions blush.gif
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I agree. I play both 360 and PS3, but find the 360's controller is more ergonomical.

Anyway, as u said, at the end of the day, it's all about getting used to. I played PS2 for years using that same design and didnt complain then ..... until i started using the 360's controller. tongue.gif
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post May 25 2012, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(terranova @ May 25 2012, 12:28 PM)
@ samowong - i believe u can find those adapters at play-asia that allows u to use ps3 controller on xbox360. like this one:
http://www.play-asia.com/Universal_Adapter...en-70-4nvl.html
I agree. I play both 360 and PS3, but find the 360's controller is more ergonomical.

Anyway, as u said, at the end of the day, it's all about getting used to. I played PS2 for years using that same design and didnt complain then ..... until i started using the 360's controller. tongue.gif
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^ This. If you can handle both PS3 and Xbox 360 controllers, it's gonna be easier to switch to the other console at any time. But still I prefer Xbox 360 controllers tongue.gif
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post May 25 2012, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ May 25 2012, 12:44 PM)
^ This. If you can handle both PS3 and Xbox 360 controllers, it's gonna be easier to switch to the other console at any time. But still I prefer Xbox 360 controllers tongue.gif
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hahaha. confession : i use the 360's controller when playing PS3 now. tongue.gif

once u get used to the 360 controller, very hard to go back to the inhumane ps3 controller. i wonder what would have happened if Sony really did roll-out the "boomerang" ps3 controller when the ps3 first launched. that would have been interesting to see .....
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post May 25 2012, 01:22 PM

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xbox360 controller ftw thumbup.gif ...tips for 360 controller: jari tengah untuk trigger button(RT,RL), jari telunjuk untuk shoulder button(RB,LB).
TSsamowong
post May 25 2012, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(nate_nightroad @ May 25 2012, 11:24 AM)
i am afraid the f710 is windows and ps3 only...

y did u leave the ps3 scene?
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My PS3 YLOD'ed (phat 40GB). It served me faithfully for 4 years. Kamikaze'd with the newly downloaded Mass Effect 3 (from terion) and all my saves doh.gif
Since I've played most of the hot PS3 titles, and the consoles are nearing the end of their life cycle, I thought to give the x360 a try. I got it for cheaps too (4GB version). Totally different world. I find the games more pricey though in lyn with less variety, probably because piracy is easier and more rampant with x360. But I did get a few games at a bargain though from fellow lyns at x360 pasar malam.

So currently, my sole complaint is the controller. Why do u guys label the PS controllers as inhuman? I don't get it. It's symmetrical like how our hands are symmetrical. The x360 controller strains my hands, so 0 points for ergonomy. Yes, i am using the index finger for L/RB and middle finger for L/RT. In fact, i thought they switched the D-pad with the Lt analog stick just to avoid copyright infringement lawsuits from Sony tongue.gif
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Thanks, but won't be getting this coz i want wireless gaming.

Anyways, I hope i'll get used to the x360 controller soon.

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post May 25 2012, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(terranova @ May 25 2012, 01:17 PM)
hahaha. confession : i use the 360's controller when playing PS3 now. tongue.gif

once u get used to the 360 controller, very hard to go back to the inhumane ps3 controller. i wonder what would have happened if Sony really did roll-out the "boomerang" ps3 controller when the ps3 first launched. that would have been interesting to see .....
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lol if i have known that those types of converter exist, i wouldnt rage so much with ps3 controller analog stick
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post May 25 2012, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(samowong @ May 25 2012, 02:04 PM)
My PS3 YLOD'ed (phat 40GB). It served me faithfully for 4 years. Kamikaze'd with the newly downloaded Mass Effect 3 (from terion) and all my saves doh.gif
Since I've played most of the hot PS3 titles, and the consoles are nearing the end of their life cycle, I thought to give the x360 a try. I got it for cheaps too (4GB version). Totally different world. I find the games more pricey though in lyn with less variety, probably because piracy is easier and more rampant with x360. But I did get a few games at a bargain though from fellow lyns at x360 pasar malam.

So currently, my sole complaint is the controller. Why do u guys label the PS controllers as inhuman? I don't get it. It's symmetrical like how our hands are symmetrical. The x360 controller strains my hands, so 0 points for ergonomy. Yes, i am using the index finger for L/RB and middle finger for L/RT. In fact, i thought they switched the D-pad with the Lt analog stick just to avoid copyright infringement lawsuits from Sony tongue.gif
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Thanks, but won't be getting this coz i want wireless gaming.

Anyways, I hope i'll get used to the x360 controller soon.
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No wonder you're cramping, the xbox 360 controller is designed to be held by adult hands not child/dwarf/hobbit hands.

Most xbox fanbois here love the joypad for the following reasons. In most properly keymapped games, you never have to press both the lb/lt and rb/rt buttons at the same time. You only have to designate the index finger for those buttons. You can/should be using your remainding 3 fingers to grip the controller which fits snugly into your palm. Using the index fingers for the left/right triggers is supposed to emulate triggers for guns (which is more natural than using the middle finger) in shooters for example and providing better accelerator/brake control for driving games. I'm sure other users can provide better examples.

the dpad being on top of the analog controller is a throwback to an era where you actually used dpad as the primary input device. Users of the sega saturn(the first analog gamepad-which came with nights into dreams)/dreamcast/original xbox have always understood that the analog stick for movement makes the most sense as its the normal resting position for the left thumb.
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post May 25 2012, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(samowong @ May 25 2012, 02:04 PM)
Since I've played most of the hot PS3 titles, and the consoles are nearing the end of their life cycle, I thought to give the x360 a try. I got it for cheaps too (4GB version). Totally different world. I find the games more pricey though in lyn with less variety, probably because piracy is easier and more rampant with x360. But I did get a few games at a bargain though from fellow lyns at x360 pasar malam.

So currently, my sole complaint is the controller. Why do u guys label the PS controllers as inhuman? I don't get it. It's symmetrical like how our hands are symmetrical. The x360 controller strains my hands, so 0 points for ergonomy. Yes, i am using the index finger for L/RB and middle finger for L/RT. In fact, i thought they switched the D-pad with the Lt analog stick just to avoid copyright infringement lawsuits from Sony tongue.gif
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Kidicarus have provided reason why it's superior in Xbox fanbois. For the games, you're comforted by the fact that you can get it downloadable at low price because of the PSN rule am I right? If you go out and shop for the retail games, the price is mostly the same, more or less.
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post May 25 2012, 04:29 PM

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Apologies if i sounded like an axxhole but i sincerely hope you enjoy gaming on your xbox. It's about as fun as any other console if you can approach it with an open mind.
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post May 25 2012, 06:01 PM

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yep. what they said. anyway, i usually reserve my middle fingers for other "games".
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post May 25 2012, 06:58 PM

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index fingers also can for other 'games'...

QUOTE(terranova @ May 25 2012, 06:01 PM)
yep. what they said. anyway, i usually reserve my middle fingers for other "games".
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post May 25 2012, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(wunan @ May 25 2012, 06:58 PM)
index fingers also can for other 'games'...
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In fact, all fingers can also be used for other 'games'

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post May 25 2012, 07:33 PM

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actually the most uncomfortable controller is the Nintendo NES
TSsamowong
post May 26 2012, 09:16 AM

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Point taken. Forgive me if I sound like a PS3 fanboy trolling the x360 thread. My true intention is only to get feedback from x360 veterans here with regards to the controller use. I enjoyed Mass Effect 2 using the PS3 controller (index on L/R1, middle on L/R2), aiming, shooting, and calling up menus effortlessly without relocating the fingers. Since the x360 controller's layout is different, I will definitely give Kidicarus's method a try on ME3.

As for the games, i'm definitely enjoying them. The graphics for one, is definitely more polished and the frame rates better in multiplat games. The in-game lighting is more pleasing to the eyes too.


Added on May 26, 2012, 9:32 am
QUOTE(FarCry3r @ May 25 2012, 04:11 PM)
Kidicarus have provided reason why it's superior in Xbox fanbois. For the games, you're comforted by the fact that you can get it downloadable at low price because of the PSN rule am I right? If you go out and shop for the retail games, the price is mostly the same, more or less.
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If u check out our lyn dealers, u'll see that the price for new releases are comparable on both consoles, but the price drop is slow for x360 games compared to the ps3 for not-so-hot-anymore games. And yes, some full retail games are much cheaper when we "share" on the PSN. If only we can buy XBLA games using US MS points...

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post May 26 2012, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(samowong @ May 26 2012, 09:16 AM)
If only we can buy XBLA games using US MS points...
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Errrrr, we can buy XBLA games using any MS points. Which XBLA game you can't buy using MS points?
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post May 26 2012, 10:34 AM

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Ermm, i guess i''ll just create a US gamertag to buy XBLA games? Can i redeem Amazon US MS points on the US gamertag then?

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