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Keto Diet, Share you exp, tips and trick
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Everdying
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May 26 2016, 10:43 AM
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Two is One and One is None.
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QUOTE(ianlee @ May 26 2016, 10:17 AM) Scientific Journal: The effects of ketogenic dieting on skeletal muscle and fat mass - Jacob T Rauch, Jeremy E Silva, Ryan P Lowery, Sean A McCleary, Kevin A Shields, Jacob A Ormes, Matthew H Sharp, Steven I Weiner, John I Georges, Jeff S Volek, Dominic P D’agostino, Jacob M Wilson. Link: http://www.jissn.com/content/pdf/1550-2783-11-S1-P40.pdfExcerpt: Also worth reading: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/can-you-bu...genic-diet.html well that link also concludes by - QUOTE Quite simply, my adventure in carbohydrate-less anabolism was to prove that you can perform at a high level on minimal carbohydrate—at least in the short term. Carbohydrates are not required to flip the protein synthesis switch, but perhaps there are other ways to make the overall anabolic process more efficient and effective.
Does that mean everyone should adopt a ketogenic diet? I don't think it is for everyone (and perhaps not for the long-term), but it's still interesting to see what your body can achieve through thick and thin. and that 1st study, why determine muscle mass by quads? instead of overall? then again, imo...any diet still works...but one should select based on long term as its basically a life style change. doing something that as that 2nd link only recommends for the short term is basically short changing urself. This post has been edited by Everdying: May 26 2016, 10:44 AM
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Everdying
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May 26 2016, 10:57 AM
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Two is One and One is None.
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QUOTE(ianlee @ May 26 2016, 10:54 AM) Maybe because the quads are the biggest muscle, hence easier to measure? I honestly don't know but all I was trying to do was to dispel the myth that it is IMPOSSIBLE to build muscle while on a low carb diet. And yes, I agree that most diets work, it all depends on how committed you are  i guess so can build muscle, but is it optimal? probably not, and definitely not in the long term.
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Everdying
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May 26 2016, 11:21 AM
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Two is One and One is None.
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QUOTE(ianlee @ May 26 2016, 11:11 AM) Honestly curious why would you say that is. Granted, more long term studies need to be done (Probably will take a while as this way of eating isn't mainstream) but I wanna know why you think it isn't optimal Anecdotally, I've seen many people who use Keto and build muscle in the long term (This guy is on keto for more than a decade https://www.instagram.com/darthluiggi)that guy - link broken btw - is probably on a higher protein ratio. and before u go posting more links... straight from the horse's mouth. http://ketogains.com/2016/02/ketogains-ket...context-part-1/QUOTE There is no “true” ketogenic diet – A ketogenic diet is #context dependent of your goals, body fat percentage, activity levels, etc. anyway, im not really bothered to follow a low carb...cos i get headaches. currently im following just a basic something like 35% protein / 25-30% fat / rest filled up by carbs...gonna see how this goes for next month
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Everdying
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May 26 2016, 11:49 AM
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Two is One and One is None.
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QUOTE(ianlee @ May 26 2016, 11:35 AM) Yeah it depends on your goals but the common denominator for keto is low carb. And higher protein doesn't mean it isnt keto right? Of course I agree it isn't for everyone, what's best is the diet you can stick to right? Sidenote: I've tried keto in the past with great results, and just started keto again about 3 months ago. (Also, you probably have headaches due to low electrolytes, very common in early stages. Supplementing with some broth or sodium will help a lot) low carb also subjective. if one must mention darthluiggi, i think there are alot of half-truths being thrown around as for gains they all still take 25-50gms of carbs both before and after workouts...so a total of 50-100gms. those amounts definitely far exceeds the standard low carb recommendations. This post has been edited by Everdying: May 26 2016, 11:49 AM
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