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 Help! Previous owner did renovation without permit, How can I legalize the renovation now?

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mitmivec
post Aug 23 2014, 01:04 PM

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if you plan to do renovation you can summit together with the existing ext and new extension... normally 10 year ago nobody really bother to submit any plan to the local authority if they ask you just say done by ext owner..
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post Aug 25 2014, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(Hitammetalic @ Aug 23 2014, 09:19 AM)
Hi just to contribute my 2cents of experience. No worries getting it legalize. Just go to local council. Tell them u bought the house that have already slight renovation. As a good citizen u always "HORMAT" all local council ruling. Talk to them very politely. Said now u want to legalize it. can buy ready plan (a booklet for rm10) then pay rm 500 refundable deposit and tell them to come inspect and u will do any rectification to their criteria if required. Once they come for 2nd inspection and happy, they give u back the rm500. Or if they refuse, u just pay rm300-500 fine. They wont breakdown ur house as whatever it is based on legality, the land belongs to u and u can actually do anything to it. But because we Hormat them we want to get their approval. Most of this officer are quite nice. As for me I always get approval befor doing any outside reno. I go thru architect and engineer. The market cost is around RM800-1000 for single storey extension and RM1400-1600 for double storey extension (excluding the RM500) deposit. Take note slight variation in local council protocal between different states. Hope that helps
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Hi Hitammetalic, do you have any architect that can help to do submission to MBSA and MBPJ? can you share with us?
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post Aug 25 2014, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(Hitammetalic @ Aug 23 2014, 09:19 AM)
Hi just to contribute my 2cents of experience. No worries getting it legalize. Just go to local council. Tell them u bought the house that have already slight renovation. As a good citizen u always "HORMAT" all local council ruling. Talk to them very politely. Said now u want to legalize it. can buy ready plan (a booklet for rm10) then pay rm 500 refundable deposit and tell them to come inspect and u will do any rectification to their criteria if required. Once they come for 2nd inspection and happy, they give u back the rm500. Or if they refuse, u just pay rm300-500 fine. They wont breakdown ur house as whatever it is based on legality, the land belongs to u and u can actually do anything to it. But because we Hormat them we want to get their approval. Most of this officer are quite nice. As for me I always get approval befor doing any outside reno. I go thru architect and engineer. The market cost is around RM800-1000 for single storey extension and RM1400-1600 for double storey extension (excluding the RM500) deposit. Take note slight variation in local council protocal between different states. Hope that helps
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Your architect very cheap.are u sure ur architect not blacklisted from LAM? i am also doing submission plan to local authority but not cheap like ur architect.can u share ur architect no? :-)
taitianhin
post Aug 25 2014, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(cedm @ May 16 2012, 07:13 PM)
I haven't signed the SPA yet. I've only paid the 3% deposit so far. I found out about the missing permit when the seller's lawyer deleted a clause related to the renovation in the SPA.

So, yes, I have the option to call off the deal, it's not too late. Right now I'm contemplating my options and try to see what is worth. I like the house, the location, the price and it's a lot of effort to find something correct. Been looking for a house for a year now, I don't want to throw all that effort down the drain.

If I can legalize the renovation and the cost of doing so isn't prohibitive, it may be worth it. But it's kind of a gamble and something more to worry about.

Renovations are fairly basic: new front gate, proper wall fencing all around, extended at the back with "metal" roof to cover. No structural changes to the unit itself, except for a 2m by 2m kitchen extension. That's about it. It certainly doesn't make the house look out of place, it just look like the neighboring units.
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Actually ...hav u ever think of approaching Majlis now and ask, if you could legalise it? since u hav the choice to refund
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Hitammetalic
post Aug 26 2014, 03:23 PM

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U got to MBSA or whatever council. They will have a list or their panel architect. Just call all to survey price. Usually standard one. Double storey reno requires engineers input hence more costly. Hope this helps
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My architect may not be suitable for u as ur area is different hence they dont know the inside people well to kam ching. Best is to ask the officer to recommend u a list. Cheaper than non panels for sure coz they have volume
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hi guys need advice on this as well - in the midst of buying an subsale property under MPSJ and doing some due diligence. paid deposit but haven sign SPA

the vendor could not locate or share a copy of CCC nor SPA. my worry is on the CCC. the house has renovation done, esp the ground floor kitchen fully extended to back, not sure if it is legal. My lawyer advice me it's ok and i can extract the CCC from MPSJ at cost about RM200+..?

appreciate any inputs to resolve this. thanks.
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how old is the house?
if very old like above 20years...
just chill...

newer one like less 5 years... then worry...


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post Oct 5 2020, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(squidsquid @ Oct 5 2020, 04:47 PM)
hi guys need advice on this as well - in the midst of buying an subsale property under MPSJ and doing some due diligence. paid deposit but haven sign SPA

the vendor could not locate or share a copy of CCC nor SPA. my worry is on the CCC. the house has renovation done, esp the ground floor kitchen fully extended to back, not sure if it is legal. My lawyer advice me it's ok and i can extract the CCC from MPSJ at cost about RM200+..?

appreciate any inputs to resolve this. thanks.
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Is the sellers responsibility to provide a copy of the ccc. If the lawyer ask you to extract, then he take up the bill.

If the property is with ready title, there is no need the SPA, otherwise is require.
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post Oct 5 2020, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Oct 5 2020, 07:46 PM)
Is the sellers responsibility to provide a copy of the ccc. If the lawyer ask you to extract, then he take up the bill.

If the property is with ready title, there is no need the SPA, otherwise is require.
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Thanks for your reply. If the renovation done is illegal ie without approval plan, would you know if it would cost a lot to legalise it now?
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post Oct 5 2020, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(squidsquid @ Oct 5 2020, 08:20 PM)
Thanks for your reply. If the renovation done is illegal ie without approval plan, would you know if it would cost a lot to legalise it now?
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Submission of drawing plan plus fines ... should be few thousands ... check with mpsj.
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post Oct 5 2020, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 5 2020, 06:38 PM)
how old is the house?
if very old like above 20years...
just chill...

newer one like less 5 years... then worry...
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it should be c.40-year old...

what if i intend to do renovation in the future? the authorities would find out and there is a possibility i will kena by then?
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QUOTE(squidsquid @ Oct 5 2020, 11:37 PM)
it should be c.40-year old...

what if i intend to do renovation in the future? the authorities would find out and there is a possibility i will kena by then?
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Just pay the fine & proceed with renovations....
But some smartA$$ don't bother with that too... Proceed without anything happens....

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