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moodswingfella
post May 26 2012, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(Luftwacko @ May 26 2012, 01:44 AM)
Guys, may I know which rune is best for War Cry?
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Impunity or Hardened Wrath. Depends on ur armour and all resist, which is lower now?
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post May 27 2012, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Luftwacko @ May 27 2012, 02:59 AM)
Both seems low to me. What do you think?
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if u want to be a tanker, prioritize ur item : VIT > all resist > armour > STR.
if u want to balance both damage and defense. farm more, nice EQ dont come cheap.

QUOTE(cheer83 @ May 27 2012, 03:18 AM)
why most of the player like 1weapon and 1 shield ? 1h1h better damage what
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barb is the best tanker in this game. I'll just let my co op fren do the DPS
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post May 27 2012, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(Luftwacko @ May 27 2012, 03:43 PM)
really? why do i get the feeling that monk is a better tanker than barb?
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i dono u. but for being a tanker, u'll need this skills to protect and do crowd control :

stunner skills (give more time for DPS co op fren to run/organize their attack.
knockback skills (to protect ur allied when stuck at choke place)
slow enemy movement and enemy attack speed (u know what this mean)
buff armour to allied (improve ur allied armor for better survivality)
use shout to attract enemy to attack u (very important, let all of enemy attack u, let ur DPS survive and kill em)

while monk is good for support role, can heal.

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post May 28 2012, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(zizi393 @ May 28 2012, 11:12 AM)
a little to tips to my fellow barbs,

STR doesnt really say much on DMG, ASPD have a significant impact on DPS, 150str vs 15% aspd on average 15k dmg the aspd will give u more.

also, i think u only nid mediocre hp, try to cap it like 20-30k and get higher resistance, reason being we got warcry with +50% resist..which mean if u get 6k armor + 600 resist u would be getting around 7k armor  900 resist which apparently lets u tank the plague/molten dmg easily...just some thought for all barb going tanky...

im going dps, and quite happy with my dmg where i can 1 combo kill elite..xD
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agreed on your recommendation to stack ALL RESIST as much as possible. But 20k-30k life is too low tank in inferno. try at least to achive 45k-50k minimum.

Aside for weapon,
Yes, AttSpd will give more dmg if to compare to STR. But STR will contribute to both dmg and armor. Well, im a tank. Prioritize on VIT > All resist > Armor > STR. But it seems like all these wont come cheap. Guess what, my damage now only 4700 only. I'll just let my allied to do the killing stuff, while I pull all mob to me.


Added on May 28, 2012, 11:56 am
QUOTE(LOOOOOOL @ May 28 2012, 11:34 AM)
see this barb

btw, u guys know how to pump resist? how u all get like 300-500 resist?
without shout i got only less than 50 all magic resist.  icon_question.gif
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i got 550 All Resist without buff. Spent a lots of money to buy EQ's that have minimum 50 all resist. yup, All EQ from head to toe, except weapon.

Now broke d.

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post May 28 2012, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(melvintcs @ May 28 2012, 12:07 PM)
did 550 all resist do a great job in inferno?
currently mine only 100++
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as for tanker, all resist is a must. so far I can tank and stay in the waller + poison/ fire + arcane laser. My role is to pull all mob to me and let allied with DPS hit em from safe distance.

My build for tanking:

My normal attk is Cleave + slow down enemy movement
War cry + Impunity give me extra armor and extra all resist.
Threatening shout reduce incoming damage and slow down enemy attack OR threaten fear enemy to attack me.
Revenge skills will be my life restoration. My most important skills to have.
Ignore pain. giveme endurannce when tanking and a bit of life when I hit my enemy.

Relentless passive skills give me great hope to survive when my life is at 20% left.
The other 2 passive I forgot the name d. It is thick as nail & boost my armour 100% from my life.

Its all depends here, if u wanna go pure tank, get ready to buy and stack up all your EQ with All resist (minimum 50) modifer. But you will sacrifice dmg and ur DPS wont be high. With my build, I cant go solo in Inferno, cuz I have low dmg. Too much pain, not enough profit...

But if you want to tank and blast more dmg. Make sure you got tons of gold and can buy an all in modifier EQ's.


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QUOTE(zizi393 @ May 28 2012, 12:23 PM)
30k hp can survive act1 inferno, given that u arent soloing, and as i mention, have a good amount of resist and armor.
i would say 30k can suffice, but its always better to have more rite..but in my opinion priority for inferno is All resist > Vit > armor, try to find all resist minimum 30-40 for armor, if possible get the 300vit armor and some ring if u really nid hp, i dont really build a tanky barb so someone can add some tips for tanky barb..

my build is 20k damage, with rage = 40k, cast down earthquake = 800k dmg(not include resist/crit)...enough to take down all of the minion in act 1, act 2 i dont even bother since most mob can 1hit me 10k
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oh earth quake. hmm, maybe I shud use that since im tanking and pull my enemy. But how much earth quake dmg will I produce? Let say I got 4500 dmg now.

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post May 29 2012, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ May 29 2012, 12:00 PM)
Question : Passive Skills

Anyone of you Barbs running around without "Tough As Nails" &  "Nerves of Steel" - Passive Defensive Skills ?

in Hell or Inferno  nod.gif 

What passive skills build you guys are using if not having any one of those ?

Thank You
p/s : thinking if i keep dying with all that defense i pump...might as well "Hantam" damage passive like this..buttttt... i havent personally tried yet..just a thought that came into mind, now working, later home try out, so now ask ask other player..
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me in inferno use : tough as nails + nerves of steel + relentless
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post May 30 2012, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(zizi393 @ May 30 2012, 10:58 AM)
weeee..i found a way for fellow barbs to kill iskatu solo..

skill build:
1. sprint with tornado (this will be ur main dps)
2. ignore pain with get life (to heal urself while sprinting)
3. Threaten shout with slow (so the shadow cant touch u, also for the fury generation)
4. warcry with fury ( to generate fury for sprinting)

passive, 1. brawler(for extra dmg), 2. relentless(just in case u got low hp u can sprint all day long), 3. unforgiving(so u wont lose fury)

just sprint and sprint and sprint till he die...
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Sprint and Furious charge is diff eh? I cant recall that, seldom use that both.
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post May 30 2012, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(zizi393 @ May 30 2012, 03:38 PM)
diff, sprint is +movement speed, and u control where u want go...furious charge move in straight line to the point u target
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oh. later go home I check.


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post May 31 2012, 02:56 AM

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QUOTE(Luftwacko @ May 30 2012, 09:48 PM)
Just trade off DPS for HP.

HP increased from 47k to 60k.

But DPS reduced from 13k to 12k.

Izit worth it?
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ur all resist?
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post May 31 2012, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(Luftwacko @ May 31 2012, 03:00 AM)
pretty damn low. lol

no $$ for bling bling gear sad.gif
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o oh. dats not a good news sad.gif
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post May 31 2012, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(opera33 @ May 31 2012, 10:12 AM)
Got myself resist gear, 728 after warcry, 8k armor, 23k HP, DPS 9k, 11k after frenzied. Able to kill some elites in inferno act 2.
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nice stats there.
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post May 31 2012, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(jason991 @ May 31 2012, 11:14 AM)
guys i really need some advice here.....how to become an effective dps barb? my current stat only 24k hp, 5.7 armour, and only 4.5 dps at lvl of 58...=(..i did pick up a 2-hand pole which can allow my dps to reach 7.2....but i found out tat is only useful for boss...normal creep i keep on dying...now i cant even solo on elite or gold...can guide me?
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well, its all about your selection of active and passive skills and of course, your gear itself and the way you wish to play. Do you want to be pure DPS barb? Like wise, U just select for all attack in your passive skill selection, same goes to your active skill.

On the other side,

How much gold you have now? Why dont you wait untill lvl 60 and try inferno. Then only you decide to customize your build. Meanwhile you just play with your fren and try to reach lvl60 and beat Diablo in Hellmode ASAP.

Cuz I regret spent so many gold before I reach lvl60 (cuz I want to try this and that) and later found out I still have to change my gear to survive in Inferno.

Just my2cent.

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post May 31 2012, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(HaN18 @ May 31 2012, 12:23 PM)
Any guide for barbarian to earn gold fast?  Which map and quest? Having problem with gold now currently lvl 48 act 4 nightmare
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hmm, before the new patch, there is a way to gain more gold by doing repetitive quest/grind in same place again agaian and again. But now I dont think so that way still can. I never tried it anyway.

IMO, best way to earn gold is equip as many GF item and just explore all map and do all quest and event. At same time, you gain experience. smile.gif
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QUOTE(HaRuaN.X @ May 31 2012, 02:44 PM)
Dun worry too much on gold yet..just get urself to Lvl 60 asap...then the gold will be easy

find urself a good Hell map with loads of mobs and elite + Neph Valor 5x + "Own GF eqs"..keep rinse and repeat "sampai kaya"
ok...right now my concern is the other class Godly Damage, Barbs aint anywhere close to the damage they are dealing (100K, 128K....270K  rclxub.gif ) danggg.....susah cari makan like this...

Highest i've seen from the net so far for barb damage is around 50K++ or issit 30K++ cant remember
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I tot someone in here before, posted that he can achieve bout 800k dmg with buff and earthquake. not sure if that post are still here.
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post May 31 2012, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(zizi393 @ May 28 2012, 12:23 PM)
30k hp can survive act1 inferno, given that u arent soloing, and as i mention, have a good amount of resist and armor.
i would say 30k can suffice, but its always better to have more rite..but in my opinion priority for inferno is All resist > Vit > armor, try to find all resist minimum 30-40 for armor, if possible get the 300vit armor and some ring if u really nid hp, i dont really build a tanky barb so someone can add some tips for tanky barb..

my build is 20k damage, with rage = 40k, cast down earthquake = 800k dmg(not include resist/crit)...enough to take down all of the minion in act 1, act 2 i dont even bother since most mob can 1hit me 10k
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^this one.

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QUOTE(HaN18 @ May 31 2012, 03:45 PM)
Aikx.. So I just power leveling until 60 first then.. I just scare I can't afford to buy new equipment when I'm on my way to 60.. Weapon and eq are getting expensive now,
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My suggestion for u to get an EQ's that have GF modifier is redirect to your question. Make sense what.

if u really cant keep up now, spend a bit gold to improve your hero la. Or, check back or revamp your passive and active skills. But if can keep up, just stick to current EQ's. Play with frens, so that you will have a sidekick.

Reason we told u to power leveling until lvl 60 quickly cuz by dat time u will try inferno and u will shitbrixx. So, u will want to change ur build by then and during that time, i can say most of item for inferno compatible is quite expensive.

Buying to improve your toon b4 lvl 60 is ok, but just dont be too IMBA or OP before reach lvl60. Imagine you spent alot of gold b4 reach lvl60/inferno and finally you regret cuz u realized your gear is not compatible to play in inferno.

But pls remember, in the end, it is up to you to choose your playing style. We can only suggest.

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post May 31 2012, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(four_add @ May 31 2012, 04:12 PM)
Im lvl 45 and for now just buy Magic equips (STR & Vit) from AH.. couldnt afford those Rare equips laugh.gif gold balance 150k. My barb can do 1k DPS and have 12k HP only sad.gif

Dont know if my Char can get those high HP and DPS when reach lvl 60.
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if you can keep up with your current difficulty, just go with the flow. But if you can equip some GF item, dat will be a huge bonus i must say.

I still remember when i was at lvl 45-55, I ignore the GF item, yea I can keep up and kill mob easily, but I dont earn much gold. While my fren, he got some GF% and he is like starting to equip and maintan to equip GF item since his at lvl 40++. He is filthy richer than me when both of us reach lvl60. And fact is, I must thanks to him cuz when ever I play with him, I will leech some of his GF%. If i play solo, I wont get much gold.

Spent gold wisely is a crucial in D3. I believe u will see your gold balance growing from time to time, especially when u reach lvl 60 later. Dont worry, we all experienced all dat before smile.gif
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Inferno act 2 is damn pain cry.gif
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QUOTE(nazseha @ Jun 1 2012, 03:27 AM)
hell yeah but still possble if u have around 600+ all resist and 20k+ dps lol..but yeah u will still dieeeee (1-2 times) against those elitess......dem.
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now i have :

820 all resist (after shout)
7500 armor (after shout)
45k life
dmg 5k only (i let my coop DPS to dish out the attack)

act 1 inferno i can do endurance tank when vs elite mobs
act 2 inferno vs elite mobs i like a tofu.

high all resist and high VIT no longer secure survivalbility in inferno act 2. (for a tanker)
i suspect, maybe I need to get : x% reduce melee attacker, x% chance to block and x% dmg reduction vs elite

all above item, mostly can only be found in legendary item. rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(SoLiD @ Jun 1 2012, 03:53 PM)
sigh i also just reach inferno...hell A4 can tank nicely d...but now...gg

60k hp
8k armor with shout
7.2k dps

my resist all below 100 @.@ now only found out need All Resist gear in inferno
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eh, r u going for tanker build? looking at your VIT and low DMG, look like you are going to be a tanker? Frankly speaking, not many ppl prefer to be a tanker, cuz we will have a low dmg and we take forever to kill mob.



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