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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Bye Dirk Kuyt!

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post May 16 2012, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ May 16 2012, 11:43 AM)
You mentioned roy had us in relegation form.I say that kenny also put us in relegation form.Is that wrong?
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Well KD did not. We were 8th and not 18th as far as I remember....

Let's put it this way in a more logical and phenomenal form.

Early season tend to be a bit slow paced compared to end of season.

You see teams like Arsenal, City and to certain extent, manu, slowly picking up pace through early season.
End of season, on the other hand, relegation teams tend to be far more threatening with their life at stake.

Thus, if you compared Roy's early half where teams are competitively easier to beat and he put his team at 19th with KD's bad half where teams are harder to beat and yet he brought us to two finals, winning one... It isn't half bad. You have to take into considerations a lot of factors. Ultimately, at the end of the day, it's fairly unfair to compare both managers' results. For instance, Roy's time, Gerrard was fit most of the time, in KD's this season, Gerrard missed a lot of matches. How can you decide which is which? Which is worse then?

And like I mentioned in earlier post, coach can only do that much. There is little fault on tactic part when we keep creating chances, it's the players that have to deliver. So, changing the manager might just be a temporary solution.
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post May 16 2012, 03:04 PM

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http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/320452...Dietmar-Hamann/

Hamman blasted Kenny, Carrol and Downing. Ouch!
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post May 16 2012, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(Yuka Yuka @ May 16 2012, 04:34 PM)
If KD bought Carroll for 10m, Downing, for 8m, Adam for 6m, Henderson for 6m too I would vouch for him. Give him another season

bloody hell that's a 100m now. I want to give him time but his eye for a good transfer is pretty weak.
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Thought it's DC negotiated the fee. He just wanted his man?
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post May 16 2012, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(Yuka Yuka @ May 16 2012, 11:34 PM)
the biggest problem now is which quality manager wants to manage Liverpool?

under-performing expensive club with high expectation fans
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I lauughed at this. True to certain extent laugh.gif
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post May 16 2012, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(daryl23 @ May 16 2012, 11:39 PM)
i think it will be on the offical site soon. looks like its real. anyway, thank him for the carling cup and fa cup final. i think hendo and carroll has a future here. downing im not too sure. pretty surprised to see him in the england squad. as for carroll, i think his last few games has shown some signs of his old self.
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laugh.gif Anything is possible with Woy in charge
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post May 17 2012, 12:07 AM

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Sad news indeed.

On a brightside, maxi and co wont be leaving eh?
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post May 17 2012, 12:22 AM

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The owners are crazy to call him over to Boston only to sack him... doh.gif
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post May 17 2012, 12:55 AM

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Steve Clarke gone really? source????
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post May 17 2012, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 17 2012, 12:57 AM)
go google tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ May 17 2012, 12:57 AM)
Google steve Clarke leaves liverpool

http://www.kopsource.com/steve-clarke-quits-liverpool/
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Can i celebrate? He is the coolest AM who dont celebrate at sidelines... a big dislike for that
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post May 17 2012, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ May 17 2012, 01:02 AM)
Suarez leaving too like Steve Clark?
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ May 17 2012, 01:03 AM)
no way...
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Liverpool South American Star Leaving Anfield

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post May 17 2012, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 17 2012, 01:06 AM)
Bad solstice  mad.gif
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What??? I gonna miss him cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 17 2012, 01:07 AM)
now let's hope the new manager sells lucas off  whistling.gif
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Adam first yo...His free kicks/corners alone worth 10m, bet we can sell him for 15m together with the fat? tongue.gif

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post May 17 2012, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(Petre @ May 17 2012, 01:10 AM)
time to buy FIRST team players.  whistling.gif
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No money left...8m for sacking woy.... Now, another 8-10m for sacking KD and co... sweat.gif
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post May 17 2012, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(bitebug @ May 17 2012, 01:11 AM)
Ayre has indeed left.. Who's running the club....
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sos cili mana?
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QUOTE(bitebug @ May 17 2012, 01:16 AM)
cari sendiri
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malas...

Anyway, I m rooting for Owen Coyle, Gus Poyet, Big Sam for the hot seat...Surely they will be better than KD! thumbup.gif
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post May 17 2012, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(bitebug @ May 17 2012, 01:18 AM)
tak lucu pun..
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Meant to be sarcastic, not to be funny lar...duh sweat.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 17 2012, 01:19 AM)
like that must as well set our sights lower and go for steve mclaren  whistling.gif
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He good leh...He won itu title with Twente! Good boy manager, I rike...
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post May 17 2012, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 17 2012, 01:21 AM)
Rajagobal for manager!
the king is gone, long live the raja!
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We cant pay for his salary if we dont sell off adam and his fats....first....
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I think you guys forget...we were 7th last season and 8th now... You expect Aguero to come ...You must be kidding me.

All the talks about Gotze, Aguero and few others just show that some of you here who claimed to be realistic, failed to be a realist. Look where we are. The best we could do is raid some lower repu club for key players , hoping that other big clubs wont come for them.

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QUOTE(hfi @ May 17 2012, 03:54 PM)
Just so you know, Dortmund team plays a bit like Rafa but at much higher intensity. At the end of the day, people don;t really care how you do it - just as long as you do it.

Those named mentioned are all good managers and could even work out ok for us. But sometimes you have to think outside the box. Did you know that Pep wasn't the first person Barca thought of replacing Rikaard ? They went close to ask Cruyff to come back out of retirement to manage them i.e. sounds familiar ? Names like Wenger, Laurent Blanc, Biesla were also preferred over Pep. At the end they only needed to rely on someone from their own backyard - someone whose experience was only managing Barca B team.

I'm just saying we shouldn't be too hasty appointing a new manager. We have to thoroughly exhaust our options and make sure we don't overlook any potential candidates - no matter how unimpressive their CVs are.
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Latest name linked to us is Alan Pandew... laugh.gif One season wonder, might end up like Woy... laugh.gif

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Marcelo Bielsa plays good football! I rike!
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ May 17 2012, 04:03 PM)
You are right about making sure no manager's CV is overlooked. However, I would want them to get the new appointment done within the next few weeks. The new manager needs all the time to reorganize the backroom staff, get the players he needs and prepare for a full pre-season. I'm sure the owners would have shortlisted a few candidates way before the sacking.
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And we should probably raid players before EURO starts. After Euro , the price will be sky high. sweat.gif
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