Anyone who puts his or her opinion contrary to the ultra's stand is a hater,modern fan,nay-er,glory hunter and fake fans.

Let's see how this people support the new manager from the beginning.

It will be fair if you could say this to the other person too.

Well,at least i didn't want him to fail from the beginning.

I did say FSG had to make a decision quick.They only had two options.Back kenny fully or sack him.
As fans our opinion didn't matter this time around.

Martinez,rogers-big risk of becoming roy part 2

Benitez-big risk of becoming kenny part 2.I wouldn't mind the benitez that first came to liverpool.Not the one that left liverpool and inter.

I would go after AVB,jurgen klopp or any manager who likes attacking football.

If i were to analyse from a neutral point of view everything suggests AVB.

1)FSG wouldn't wanna spend money to buy managers out of their contract.They already had to pay off kenny,clarke,comolli and all the staff sacked recently.

This narrows down the options to three
1)AVB - unemployed currently. Positives:Emphasises attacking football,worked with mourinho before.
Negatives: Failed in the epl with chelsea,thinks he is as good as mourinho
2)Benitez- unemployed also: Positives:Master tactician.liverpool legend and has a point to prove after the last time.
Negatives:Tactically too rigid,poor man management,bad history with owners recently
3)Capello- sacked by england this year. Positives: Expressed interest recently in managing epl team,proven track record all over europe.
Negatives: Dull football that liverpool fans won't warm up to,wages maybe too demanding and too old.

Given that FSG wanted a young manager after they sacked roy i think AVB ticks most of the boxes FSG would want.

It will be from these three.If i am wrong,i will quit posting on here.

So would you be happy if i had said mourinho,guardiola and hiddink even it was not realistic?

For some people kenny is bigger than the club.They are already threatening not to buy tickets next season,merchandise and boycott games.True fans it seems.

I did say i put it from a neutral point of view.My neutral point of view is hardly wrong.

As a liverpool fan i would welcome jurgen klopp and support him.We need a manager with that pedigree to win things while playing attacking football.Benitez and capello can win things but they don't play attacking or free flowing football.

AVB played attacking football and won the treble with porto.How many young managers could do that?
Chelsea players failed him big time because they didn't wanna play for him.

Personally i want mourinho.He's the best in the world after beating the best side in the world barca to the league.
I don't think any manager in the world can do that.

Are you trying to create a doom and gloom situation by your recent rants?

The club moved on without shankly,paisley,keegan,dalglish,fowler,owen and torres.

If you cannot believe in the club's future then you should stop supporting lfc.

Yeah mr.true fan i can get called doubters,nay-er and fake fan thats alright but now you can tick me off for criticising you back.hypocrisy much?

You can tell people to go support city or chelsea but when people do that to you your blood boils

This post has been edited by Rotuham: May 17 2012, 05:27 PM

So telling people to go support city and chelsea is not bossing around?

Don't try to skirt the issue.Don't practise hypocrisy and double standards sir.

Oh no i am not.Just giving your type of people a taste of your own medicine.

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Added on May 17, 2012, 5:36 pmYeah since now we have become an instant results club i too am offering you another alternative for undivided and blinded loyalty.Everton is the place for you.10 years and counting manager.

This post has been edited by Rotuham: May 17 2012, 05:36 PM

So it's ok for you to tell other people to support city and chelsea but when other people tell you to support another club it's wrong?

Somebody explain to me this.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...rt-my-successor

Directed at those rebelling now.

The point is we can't allow roy part 2 to happen.We have to move on.

If the owners didn't listen to majority of fans when they sacked kenny,why would they listen to the fans to bring back rafa.

Factors to consider about rafa:

1) Rafa has taken a break for more than one year.If there is a better time to come back then it has to be now.
Mourinho took a break for about one year and it turned out very well for him after that.
It's now or never for rafa before he becomes outdated.

2)He has extensive knowledge about spanish players.That will be very good considering majority of the spanish players brought here have been successful.What better pool of talent is there other than spain?

3)How much are FSG willing to back rafa?Do they give money whenever he asks for it?Will they appoint him knowing that there will be backlash from fans when they sack him if things go wrong?

4) Will he command the respect of gerrard and carragher after their alleged role in his sacking?
If it's true that some our star players want out,i am very sure rafa will ensure that won't happen considering he was the one who brought reina,agger,skrtel,lucas,johnson as well as work with fellow spaniard enrique.

5)Can he continue the attacking performances under rafa or will he revert to his lone striker and two CDM formation?
The Kop demands attacking football as shown under kenny.

This post has been edited by Rotuham: May 17 2012, 11:49 PM

Kenny never had a game plan like rafa did.Two defensive midfielders protecting the back 4.All play goes toward supplying the lone striker with the ball.

Under kenny,everyone could move about.Sometimes you can find carroll as the last defender and sometimes you can see skrtel dribbling on the right wing.Under rafa there never was such thing.Everyone were rigid in their positions.
The interchanging game under kenny was good when everyone was on the same wavelength but when things don't go our away,the players will look clueless and all over the place.
There is a fine line between versatility/moving about and all over the place.

Real under mourinho play attacking football.However when they play barca mourinho deploys defensive tactics to counter barca.Kenny wouldn't do those stuff.He tells the players to ''keep doing what we have been doing.''
That suggests he has no different approach to different opponents.He had no plan B in case things were going wrong.

Kenny's idea was there which was to pass and move but just not quite the players to execute.Tactics also involve the players that you deploy.He bought poor players to implement his ideas.As a result,his pass and move couldn't bear fruits and our results suffered.

In short,the idea was there but the execution failed miserably.

Absolute tripe.Why would i want him out if those goals had went in?Surely we would have been in a better position and better results.You are emotionally distraught that you are antagonising anything and anyone against kenny.

The results matter end of the day and had he finished 4th or even close to it he would have my backing and i am sure FSG's too.

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Added on May 18, 2012, 12:34 amSomeone just started a thread there ''Make Stevie Manager''

This post has been edited by Rotuham: May 18 2012, 12:34 AM

Well stevie g didn't play against swansea,what do you make of it?

Do you want john henry's number? I can pass it to you.