Kaysa, regarding your dyeing adventure, in order to achieve a more safe heating environment, i suggest you double boil it instead of boiling it directly. Reason why is that while the water might be 60C temp, the side walls of the pot which is conducting the full heat will be much hotter. Double boiling will solve this problem.
Btw double boiling, if you dont know, is basically using the heat from a boiling water's steam to heat the inner pot. It is still safe to continously it though, to prevent touching the walls for too long .

Also, I'm looking for engraved white PBTs too. Want to tumpang a purchase from Taobao together? =D. I actually just need everything except the tenkey, F row, arrow cluster and insert/delete cluster

Yeah
Its about 200ish RMB for 104 keys
and i cant find any with 87 keys, only black PBTs
whats worse, i only need 61 keys only T.T

Thats true, it doesnt eliminate the risk it only reduce it. But if just relying on stirring the pot in the direct heating method, a slight lapse of concentration would mean some parts will touch the wall longer, thus causing that part to warp. Margin for error is very low.
Another way i guess is a variation of the double boil method. Use a big pot to heat water, and submerge another pot containing water into the 1st pot's water. Heat the water enough for it not to boil (to achieve about 60C), and place the keycaps into the 2nd pot.

My workplace has a chamber that can heat the atmosphere to 60C. It'll be easy to use that chamber to do keycap dyeing

Request for pics!
How much did it cost ya?

Damn.. so much more than the keyboard itself

Guys you know anywhere I can test out Brown or Blue switch keyboards?
The gf tried my Poker red, and would want to get one too, but she'd like to try all the other keys before deciding.

Preferably a tenkey or a full keyboard, rather than Kaiser's travelling numpad =D. Thanks! =D

No 87 piece white

no wor just from the page itself
cant write chinese so yeah

Are PBTs more lasting than doubleshots?
So tempted by the red alert GB, but being ABS makes me 2nd think

But is the super high contrast of the DS worth the shininess of the ABS?
Which do you prefer?

=D

Haven't used one before so I cant imagine it

Btw, I just ordered a Poker alu plate. Not sure whether it'll feel nice or not, but I did grow on to the slight flex of the Poker's PCB. Soften the impact of bottoming out .

Anyway the gf already tried Blues and as expected, she liked it more than the reds for typing, but due to the sound, she would like to give the browns a go first.
Any bets here on which she would prefer in the end? Blue, Red or Brown? . Black is out she tried it and disliked the harder springs.

Haha well you cant really compare that way because alot of the extra cost is to accessorise or modify the look and feel of the stock KB.
The HHKB Pro2, while I like it (more than the Topres), would mean i will need to spend even more on top of that to get the look and feel i want .
I'd do just that if i weren't so poor .

In fact, a Filco Red would be my fav option, but to deck that out with bells and whistles, it'll cost almost RM600-700.
But the Poker isnt that bad. A plus is its portability, means I get to lug it around to show off and convert other membrane keyboard users, but I still desire a solid Filco Red as my non travelling keyboard .

Btw, the alu plate is not the case, but the stiffening plate to mount on the KB. Cost just USD11 over at GH now.


I don't doubt you considering the amount of mod options available on GH

Storm, does ducky sells PBT engraved white keycaps?
IINM, i think i saw ripster reviewed it before.

Thanks!

According to ripster, it is from the same mold as the KBC PBT ones available from Taobao.
But I prefer Ducky's packaging.

Do you have any info on price for the White Engraved (without infill), as well as whether there are 87pcs type?

Anyone knows where to buy cherry mx switches cheap and fast?
Want to buy some blues, browns, clears and green maybe to put into my poker.
Wanna convert people with it

Actually.. it isnt that expensive.
The mold itself is just a few K, perhaps around RM5-8k.
The injection machine rental, depends on the quantity. The fewer quantity the more expensive it becomes. But for large quantities (lets say 100k sets) might cost u less than RM5 per set after factoring in the initial cost of the mold? (im guess guesstimating)
The secondary process to make the letters cost depends on the type of lettering. Pad printing of course is cheap. But not sure for laser engraving though.

So yeah, it is quite cheap

This post has been edited by daijoubu: Jun 15 2012, 12:43 AM

The market is just too small for most suppliers to care. Signature plastics charge a arm and leg for what essentially is just bits of plastic. Something like Crocs. The cost price is so damn cheap because its injection molded, but they are sold at such high prices.

Yup just the insert to make the mold itself is very cheap, but the entire mold will cost upwards of Rm2-3k.
I work with injection molding, and i know both mold and injection suppliers, so yeah, I know these stuff arent that expensive.

I kinda prefer the HHKB Pro2 button feel over the 10th anniversary Topre feel. The 10th anniversary felt like a VERY refined membrane switch. The high quality feel is there, but the general feel still reminds me of a membrane. Like membrane on steroids .
But the HHKB Pro2, and some other Topre keyboards felt different. Prefer those .

I'd love a HHKB Pro2, but with its current layout, I dont think I'll ever commit. Enjoying my Poker now, but still cant get used to its 2nd layer layout =.=.

He meant that even he hasnt used both a Cherry MX and a Topre switch before, he wants to straight go for a HHKB Pro2 because he feels that there is too many Cherry users around (he wants exclusitivity)

I used to have a buckling spring kb around the house bout 10-12 years ago. used to play 'business' pretend game (kb as cash register), and i still can remember vaguely how it feels. Then i threw it away . If i only knew what it was i would've kept it .

How much does model M cost nowadays?