Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

14 Pages < 1 2 3 4 5 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

Health Type 1 diabetes & Type 2 diabetes

views
     
stimix
post Mar 18 2013, 10:48 PM

Dunno
Group Icon
Moderator
3,542 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Puchong, Selangor



QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Mar 18 2013, 05:20 PM)
have you try victoza?
*
How to try wheni' m on govt hospital prescription. I don't even think they gonna give me levemir which is better than insulataed
stimix
post Mar 18 2013, 11:06 PM

Dunno
Group Icon
Moderator
3,542 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Puchong, Selangor



Darn found out this is not for type 1 and can cause tyroid tumor
http://www.victoza.com/
samuraikacang
post Mar 19 2013, 09:38 AM

You tak suka You Keluar
*****
Senior Member
710 posts

Joined: Jan 2008
From: Kuala Lumpur


QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 18 2013, 11:06 PM)
Darn found out this is not for type 1 and can cause tyroid tumor
http://www.victoza.com/
*
Actually the thyroid tumor does happen to diabetes patient regardless of whether taking victoza or not. No conclusive study to show that Victoza actually promotes thyroid tumor. Victoza is design for type 2 but they have done clinical trial for type 1 and its improve BG control and promotes weight loss. the same effect for type 2 patient.

Its off label in malaysia right now and only endocrinologist can prescribe the medicine. I'm on clinical trials by KKM to see the effect of victoza on Malaysia patient. I hope the government of Malaysia can sponsor victoza for patient in Government hospital cause it does help a lot.

My previous hb1ac (in july 2012) was 11 before starting victoza, my current hb1ac is 5.1 (march 2013).

Previously I went to university hospital they prescribe me lantus, doesn't help at all, and lantus promotes weight gain. So I went a get second opinion at Gleneagles. I'm happy with my current weight and current health.

Already stop taking lipitor, micardis, casprin, levemir, diamicron xr, only on victoza 1.8 and metformin 1.5 g.
stimix
post Mar 19 2013, 10:09 AM

Dunno
Group Icon
Moderator
3,542 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Puchong, Selangor



QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Mar 19 2013, 09:38 AM)
Actually the thyroid tumor does happen to diabetes patient regardless of whether taking victoza or not. No conclusive study to show that Victoza actually promotes thyroid tumor.  Victoza is design for type 2 but they have done clinical trial for type 1 and its improve BG control and promotes weight loss. the same effect for type 2 patient.

Its off label in malaysia right now and only endocrinologist can prescribe the medicine. I'm on clinical trials by KKM to see the effect of victoza on Malaysia patient. I hope the government of Malaysia can sponsor victoza for patient in Government hospital cause it does help a lot.

My previous hb1ac (in july 2012) was 11 before starting victoza, my current hb1ac is 5.1 (march 2013).

Previously I went to university hospital they prescribe me lantus, doesn't help at all, and lantus promotes weight gain. So I went a get second opinion at Gleneagles. I'm happy with my current weight and current health.

Already stop taking lipitor, micardis, casprin, levemir, diamicron xr, only on victoza 1.8 and metformin 1.5 g.
*
Nice result there rclxms.gif congratz.. My previous Hb1ac was also ~ 11 (hehe lost the Blood test liao blush.gif ). Anyway, my FBS reading since I started insulatard since 2 wks ago avg 4.2 to 5.8 depending on what I took the night b4. Super happy with the reading. I never ever dream of reaching this level rclxm9.gif

However once I touch breakfast, my random BS after 2 hrs shoot up to ~ 9 and once I touch lunch, 2hrs later avg ~ 14 and for Dinner, also ~ 14-16. Meaning all the drugs that I took almost useless dy.. (On 1.7g metformin & 320mg dimicron (glicazide)

By this Friday, most probably I will discuss wth my Doctor for another dose of Insulatard (Works wonder to me) on mid Morning after food hmm.gif By then, I probably continue my Metformin at 1.5g and no more dimicron liao hmm.gif
samuraikacang
post Mar 19 2013, 12:27 PM

You tak suka You Keluar
*****
Senior Member
710 posts

Joined: Jan 2008
From: Kuala Lumpur


QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 19 2013, 10:09 AM)
Nice result there  rclxms.gif congratz.. My previous Hb1ac was also ~ 11 (hehe lost the Blood test liao  blush.gif ).  Anyway, my FBS reading since I started insulatard since 2 wks ago avg 4.2 to 5.8 depending on what I took the night b4. Super happy with the reading. I never ever dream of reaching this level  rclxm9.gif

However once I touch breakfast, my random BS after 2 hrs shoot up to ~ 9 and once I touch lunch, 2hrs later avg ~ 14 and for Dinner, also ~ 14-16. Meaning all the drugs that I took almost useless dy.. (On 1.7g metformin & 320mg dimicron (glicazide)

By this Friday, most probably I will discuss wth my Doctor for another dose of Insulatard (Works wonder to me) on mid Morning after food  hmm.gif  By then, I probably continue my Metformin at 1.5g and no more dimicron liao  hmm.gif
*
Probably you can ask doctor on whether you can be introduce to Levemir since Levemir doesn't promote weight gain the way Insultard does. Also probably can adjust your diet plan to include more vegetables and less carbohydrate. I did that and my post prandial Blood Glucose would be around 5.5 to 6.1. The highest I hit now is 7.4 if I take more carbo.
stimix
post Mar 19 2013, 12:54 PM

Dunno
Group Icon
Moderator
3,542 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Puchong, Selangor



QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Mar 19 2013, 12:27 PM)
Probably you can ask doctor on whether you can be introduce to Levemir since Levemir doesn't promote weight gain the way Insultard does. Also probably can adjust your diet plan to include more vegetables and less carbohydrate. I did that and my post prandial Blood Glucose would be around 5.5 to 6.1. The highest I hit now is 7.4 if I take more carbo.
*
Yeah I was thinking of asking the doctor to give me Levemir earlier. However since insulatard works so well on me and beyond my expectation, I don't think to change this night insulin. However I probably asking what Morning insulin that they going to prescribe me.. I don't really like the idea of rapid acting insulin that required me jabbing on each meal doh.gif rclxub.gif

Very nice result you got there...I should have change to insulin years ago..haizzz.. now only thinking after my eye got into complication i.e confirmed glaucoma doh.gif
samuraikacang
post Mar 19 2013, 01:25 PM

You tak suka You Keluar
*****
Senior Member
710 posts

Joined: Jan 2008
From: Kuala Lumpur


QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 19 2013, 12:54 PM)
Yeah I was thinking of asking the doctor to give me Levemir earlier. However since insulatard works so well on me and beyond my expectation, I don't think to change this night insulin. However I probably asking what Morning insulin that they going to prescribe me.. I don't really like the idea of rapid acting insulin that required me jabbing on each meal  doh.gif  rclxub.gif

Very nice result you got there...I should have change to insulin years ago..haizzz.. now only thinking after my eye got into complication i.e confirmed glaucoma  doh.gif
*
You can ask doctor about novomix.
stimix
post Mar 19 2013, 02:31 PM

Dunno
Group Icon
Moderator
3,542 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Puchong, Selangor



QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Mar 19 2013, 01:25 PM)
You can ask doctor about novomix.
*
Hmnn can try but I doubt Govt hospital willing to dispense newer & expensive insulin like levemir biggrin.gif
samuraikacang
post Mar 19 2013, 02:44 PM

You tak suka You Keluar
*****
Senior Member
710 posts

Joined: Jan 2008
From: Kuala Lumpur


QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 19 2013, 02:31 PM)
Hmnn can try but I doubt Govt hospital willing to dispense newer & expensive insulin like levemir  biggrin.gif
*
Probably can ask the doctor if they have any sponsorship program supplied by novo nordisk.
darklight79
post Mar 19 2013, 03:40 PM

I'll eat your food
Group Icon
Elite
9,006 posts

Joined: Oct 2005
From: PJ


QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 19 2013, 02:31 PM)
Hmnn can try but I doubt Govt hospital willing to dispense newer & expensive insulin like levemir  biggrin.gif
*
We're still using insulatard and actrapid. All basic stuff.
darklight79
post Mar 19 2013, 03:46 PM

I'll eat your food
Group Icon
Elite
9,006 posts

Joined: Oct 2005
From: PJ


Gee. I never knee there were quite a few members with T2DM. I've had a patient came in with severe MI but was detected way late. High cardiac tissue death. His cardiac enzymes were elevated. He wasn't aware DM masks the symptoms of myocardial infarction. Chest pain in this case was a very late sign. Too bad he passed away soon after.
stimix
post Mar 19 2013, 05:06 PM

Dunno
Group Icon
Moderator
3,542 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Puchong, Selangor



QUOTE(darklight79 @ Mar 19 2013, 03:40 PM)
We're still using insulatard and actrapid. All basic stuff.
*
Basic but if works no problem. Instead of rapid insulin, I'm thinking asking the Doc to give me additional Morning insulatard too. Is this OK? Right now on 8 ut of night insulatard and FBS ranging from 4.2 to 6. However 2 hrs after light breakfast, avg BS=9 and 2 hrs after lunch ~ 14 & 2 hrs after Dinner from 13-16. Taking 1700mg Metformin slow release (Morning & nite) + Glicazide 320gm (max dose) Morning & Nite now.
darklight79
post Mar 19 2013, 10:53 PM

I'll eat your food
Group Icon
Elite
9,006 posts

Joined: Oct 2005
From: PJ


QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 19 2013, 05:06 PM)
Basic but if works no problem. Instead of rapid insulin, I'm thinking asking the Doc to give me additional Morning insulatard too. Is this OK? Right now on 8 ut of night insulatard and FBS ranging from 4.2 to 6. However 2 hrs after light breakfast, avg BS=9 and 2 hrs after lunch ~ 14 & 2 hrs after Dinner from 13-16. Taking 1700mg Metformin slow release (Morning & nite) + Glicazide 320gm (max dose) Morning & Nite now.
*
Wei... no. Insulatard is slow acting. It's supposed to last through the night. Which means it's still working WHILE you take the other tds doses of Actrapid. It's gonna screw with your blood sugar and you don't want a hypoglycaemic attack. If you're already on Actrapid, you might need to adjust the dosage. How's your HbA1c?
stimix
post Mar 19 2013, 11:01 PM

Dunno
Group Icon
Moderator
3,542 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Puchong, Selangor



Not yetonactrapid. Still on the above drugs i mentioned earlier. Trying to reuce oral drugsandgoing onminsulin. I try not to takeactrapid. Troublesome esp every meal also need to jab
darklight79
post Mar 19 2013, 11:18 PM

I'll eat your food
Group Icon
Elite
9,006 posts

Joined: Oct 2005
From: PJ


QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 19 2013, 11:01 PM)
Not yetonactrapid. Still on the above drugs i mentioned earlier. Trying to reuce oral drugsandgoing onminsulin. I try not to takeactrapid. Troublesome esp every meal also need to jab
*
Yeah... but prob is... OHA isn't really doing much for your blood sugar man. sad.gif Have you combined it with lifestyle control also?
stimix
post Mar 20 2013, 07:18 AM

Dunno
Group Icon
Moderator
3,542 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Puchong, Selangor



QUOTE(darklight79 @ Mar 19 2013, 11:18 PM)
Yeah... but prob is... OHA isn't really doing much for your blood sugar man. sad.gif Have you combined it with lifestyle control also?
*
Have to admit my exercise getting leser nowadays. Only weekend 15km cycling & 2-3 days once light exercise b4 dinner.. My diet is the same year in year out but not really carb less diet blush.gif ..Lunch time..normal normal hawker wantan mee/ kueh teow soup or even 3/4 rice chapfan. but I love eating fruits after each meal.. normally a pc of guava after lunch & apple/ pear after dinner. For dinner, I normally take brown rice .
vmagnum
post Mar 20 2013, 09:48 PM

New Member
*
Newbie
3 posts

Joined: Feb 2013


My late grandfather has diabetes, and this is a reminder to me, I think..or not?
battosai
post Mar 20 2013, 10:40 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
37 posts

Joined: Mar 2013


QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 19 2013, 10:09 AM)
Nice result there  rclxms.gif congratz.. My previous Hb1ac was also ~ 11 (hehe lost the Blood test liao  blush.gif ).  Anyway, my FBS reading since I started insulatard since 2 wks ago avg 4.2 to 5.8 depending on what I took the night b4. Super happy with the reading. I never ever dream of reaching this level  rclxm9.gif

However once I touch breakfast, my random BS after 2 hrs shoot up to ~ 9 and once I touch lunch, 2hrs later avg ~ 14 and for Dinner, also ~ 14-16. Meaning all the drugs that I took almost useless dy.. (On 1.7g metformin & 320mg dimicron (glicazide)

By this Friday, most probably I will discuss wth my Doctor for another dose of Insulatard (Works wonder to me) on mid Morning after food  hmm.gif  By then, I probably continue my Metformin at 1.5g and no more dimicron liao  hmm.gif
*
wah u use 1.5g oni ar
gov klinik give me 500mg must eat 4 tablet every day

btw i type 1 diabetic
stimix
post Mar 20 2013, 10:58 PM

Dunno
Group Icon
Moderator
3,542 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Puchong, Selangor



QUOTE(battosai @ Mar 20 2013, 10:40 PM)
wah u use 1.5g oni ar
gov klinik give me 500mg  must eat 4 tablet every day

btw i type 1 diabetic
*
I can't take >1500mg/day otherwise sure lousai blush.gif very sever stomachache ...Hmnnn type 1 mostly insulin why u on metformin?
battosai
post Mar 20 2013, 11:29 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
37 posts

Joined: Mar 2013


QUOTE(stimix @ Mar 20 2013, 10:58 PM)
I can't take >1500mg/day otherwise sure lousai  blush.gif very sever stomachache ...Hmnnn type 1 mostly insulin why u on metformin?
*
docter give i take lor she say try 1 week 1st next week gonna meet her again for some test

14 Pages < 1 2 3 4 5 > » Top
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0214sec    0.61    5 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 27th November 2025 - 02:04 AM