Hi Guys,

Planning to get a new car but have my eyes set on these 2 cars. But i am still open to suggestion for <140k. resale value is not an issue. my requirements are big space, comfort and less problem with parts and built quality.

I know that these two cars are fairly similar with similar engine and almost the same specs.

Would like to know what you guys think of these cars and has there been any major problems reported.


Many thanks

hyundai generally is considered a more mature of the 2 brands...

ya kind of afraid of naza cars as a friend of mine have major issues with her naza ria. just not sure how well is kia doing

get the tucson la... much better...

haha.. a friend of mine her dad's naza ria literally catch on fire from the engine bay and burn the whole car down to a crisp by the highway....

ria is old stuff- cannot compare.. sportage

i am dont really remember the specifics of her case but its something like need to change whole engine block. if dont fix cant sell if sell cannot cover cost of fixing. really pity

ehm...
i didnt really compare Tucson with Sportage...
i were comparing Cx-5 with Sportage...i picked CX-5

btw, if Tucson 2.0L with Sportage,
i will pick Sportage.... (not comparing Tucson 2.4L)

Btw, theres alot of blog and review comparison between this 2 cars. can google around and read...im sure this comparison is easy...u will get ur final answer real soon.

ehh CX-5 not available yet, right? How's the price like?

official .... MYR 159,500.00 (FWD); MYR 169,500.00 (AWD)

Hrm, that's a lot more than the Sportage and Tucson.

Yep.... Ria even use old Rover engine... not kia's....

Had a chance to drive sportage once before, feels underpowered imo. as for tucson, design wise phail for me

This post has been edited by Kalist0: Apr 29 2012, 11:31 PM

..so u made a thread..

CX-5.. if only u willing to spend 30k more for the same sportage spec (AWD auto)

This post has been edited by digitheatre: Apr 29 2012, 11:43 PM

Yup between Tucson 2.0 HS and Sportage 2.0.


i can really find comparison between the two as they tend to place the NA Tucson with the TC sportage that is not available here

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Added on April 29, 2012, 11:56 pmthat is the only really strong point for me to choose sportage over tucson up till now

This post has been edited by wsmw: Apr 29 2012, 11:56 PM

interior, exterior or both?

exterior looks nice IMO. Just the black colored version not as nice as the silver linings become too obvious.

both using the same 2.0 engine bro..so u can just ignore the engine/power comparisons and look for other differences

design wise..diff ppl hv diff taste..so ask urself which one u like more
then go test drive both to be certain of ur choice

Sportage design is overkill mang
But both brands are Korean so...buy at ur own risk

Tuscon- more spacer, comfort

Sportage-AWD, sporty, more accessories, Audi spirit.

After test driving both the cars, here is my conclusion

Sportage:
+more features
+a little cheaper
- bad build quality (look into the exhaust mounting, uneven weld and not coated, the test drive unit started to rust there)


Tucson 2.0HS:
+better ride comfort (especially in the back)
+better build quality
-less specs
-no 4WD

i would not buy either of it cuz with this price tag i can get something that offers a much more comfortable drive.

this is my opinion and you may agree or disagree with me

perhaps u should look for 2012 cr-v or cx-5

Naza Ria was a problem vehicle from day 1 the same as the Kia Spectra. So dont use these old problematic models as comparison for the current models. There are totally different.

What other better SUV's can u get for RM 135K+? Kindly elaborate.

Your classification for build quality is based solely on the uneven welding on the exhaust mounting?

So how would you explain the 12 Ferrari 458 Italia's which caught fire in 2010 in numerous locations worldwide? What quality is that according to your definition?

Another criteria to take into consideration is safety. This is an aspect which Kia has focussed on with the new design change.

Check out the American NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) website on the safety ratings for various cars.

http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shoppers/5...-Newer+Vehicles

The Kia Optima got a 5 Star rating on all aspects including frontal, side and rollover impact. Beat even the new BMW 5 Series & upcoming 2012 Toyota Camry which scored only 4 stars in frontal impact (rest 5 stars). Mazda 6 fared even worse in frontal impact with only 3 stars.

VW Jetta also didnt fare well with only 4 stars for frontal and rollover impact with an overall 4 star rating only. Passat 1.8TSI got 4 stars for rollover impact while 5 stars for the rest.

The Kia Sportage performed better than the BMW X3 & new Range Rover Evoque in the 2011 Euro NCAP results scoring higher ratings for adult, child and safety.

http://www.euroncap.com/results/kia/sportage/2010/414.aspx

Note:

For your info, the American NHTSA and Euro NCAP ratings are the best in the world but there are differences between these 2 so you cant really take 1 to be better than the other. For instance, the NHTSA frontal crash speed is 57kmph while the Euro NCAP is 64kmph. But side impact, NHTSA is 62kmph while Euro NCAP is only 50kmph. Other safety ratings from Japan and Australia are a step lower than these 2.

Safety excellence is always due to 2 factors: Safety accessories and stronger body. Kia has proven that they have excelled in both these aspects with their new generation of cars.

well like i say it is my opinion. you can agree or not.

for the same price tag.. probably he's not really looking into SUV
at the moment..sportage is the most affordable with great features and quality in its segment

Well since this is a forum, opinions are open for discussions rite? So u have my point of view...lets hear yours.

yup ditched the idea of getting a SUV. my major turn off point is the ride comfort especially in the back where i will ferry my parents a lot.

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Added on May 7, 2012, 9:21 pmthe welding actually shows how passionate are the people making the car. i am not saying it is bad but they could do much better as it has bad workmanship.

This post has been edited by wsmw: May 7 2012, 09:21 PM

so, which car did you choose in the end? since u don't really fancy sportage/tucson.

still hunting. any suggestion?

not really.

i thought you already found one good car and maybe can share the review with us.

i do ferry my parents alot too.. but with the opposite experience.. they said it is quite comfortable to sit at the back and being in SUV (big & high car).. they hv feeling it is alot safer than being in sedan

In bolehland foreign safety test don't mean anything as the vehicles are bare and kosong I.e Camry 2air bag. But Sportage is special comes full loaded in area of safety

haha good one, T&H stripped everything down, only Korean and Conti still give nice packages.

Actually if you buy Camry you in the demographic of buyers that would stand to lose a lot more financially in the event of accidents.

International safety ratings do mean alot. If the car with all its top notch specs overseas get average ratings, just imagine how the ratings would be for our local stripped down versions!

Just trust me and go for the Kia Optima K5. I test drove it 9 times before buying not to mention extensive online research & evaluation. At RM 143,888 OTR its the best bang for buck car out there with its top notch specs, excellent safety standards, good build quality, ample interior space and good handling. Not to mention the 5 years unlimited mileage manufacturers warranty (not 3+2). After sales service is also quite good now with Kia. Many positive comments from owners.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: May 8 2012, 08:54 AM

OMG crv. That car still in the market?

yes, shudder to think what would happen

i don't understand our buyers and sellers of cars. We have bad tar roads, heavy traffic, heavy ran, lots of industrial trailers which spill oil on the road, contractors makan bribe and build not spec road, low maintenance and the notorius malaysian drivers. IN malaysian there is non official speed limit in housing estates, highways. We speed to the max where there is no police like federal highway at night, long stretches of housing estates roads like usj

and yet safety is not important. ABS not important, air bag 2bags only, traction controll nope, milo tin design
yet our buyers never press the car seller for better safety. They believe salesman say that in japan 2 air bag good enough but japan roads are pristine, no lorries leaving oil on the road, rain is less there

ya..u got the point bro..
but i think jap specs and specs here is like heaven and hell..
jap always give the best to their country

here in malaysia.. BRAND & RESALE VALUE is king.. no airbag also can sell

Kind of dumb right, we only care about resale when safety should be number one factor when buying a car.
Sorry my life is more important than how much the car is worth after 5 years, how much of petrol it drinks. Money can make more, your life priceless

Yes agreed 100%. Malaysians place too much emphasis on cosmetical specs. Safety is always a backseat option. The Europeans are well ahead of the rest of the world in terms of safety. For instance, effective this year all new cars in the European Union must be fitted with Vehicle Stability Control or similar. And here we are in Malaysia still trying to make ppl wear rear seat belts.

When buying a car, first question to ask yourself:

RV more important or you and your passengers safety more important?

If RV more important, decide between T and H only. Otherwise, choose anything besides T and H.

should put this formula as sticky for guide on buying new cars

perhaps something to add
for RV to be important you need to be alive to sell it

Haha, that will be the T&C.

So true. The new 2.0 Camry doesn't even have traction Control and Vehicle Stability Control . Ridiculous right for a RM150K car.

so, anybody got any conclusion. sportage or tucson is better?

mum's drivin sportage.. for me.. way before sportage out, i feel tucson so freakin attractive.. but soon turned off after sportage come out.. so ..Design, is sportage for me.. hehe.. bought last year raya.. and still never bored lookin at it..

This post has been edited by invisibl3boyz: May 8 2012, 03:47 PM

For safety buy sportage, for malaysian style short change buy tucson
after all both own by same company same engine, same gear box, same parts

Sportage has better specs and surely looks much better. Hyundai somehow looked good only when they were launched. Same with the Sonata. Now that Kia has come in with their better looking Sportage and Optima, the Hyundais somehow dont look that great now.

it is a matter of personal preference. test drive the cars and you shall have a much better view of things. i have looked at many showroom but only able to test drive the sportage in the kia test drive centre in bangsar (on the main road). it should be quite easy to get hold of a tuscon to test drive.

Bro, how's the fuel consumption like? The engine doesn't produce much low end torque, how's the pick up?

I am thinking to go for a test drive too, checking with you to see how is it.

Ohh.. Dont go for this car if u prefer pickup. It is underpowered by the time u test drive it. I test drive b4 and the pickup is not good. The only good are specs and exterior design. Somemore, the interior is not to my liking..

is it true nvh for tucson is better than sportage? i've never test drive, just from youtube review.

Get the proton Juwara. Confirm cool!

Its the same with the Optima. Both have low range pickup but the power kicks in at mid range. If u see the torque curve, ull see.

I've tried VW's offering. The low end torque is really awesome, step the accelerator a bit more and it send the head back to the read rest.

Yes its quite good. Even the Peugeot 508 has got good pickup with its 240nm torque.

Drove my Sportage for the last 2 weeks and clocked in 1K mileage and sent for the first service. Having problem with AC and the Service Centre taking fast action to rectify the problem ... other than that it is really a great machine to drive around ... to date, I have driven 3 variances of NAZA, Naza Citra for the last 7 years (no problem and value for money, due to taxs structure vs Kia Karen) and Kia Bestari Sportivo (as afore-mentioned assessment). Hopefully Naza will continue keeping up with the nice words in her advertisement so that the goodwill and the continuous improvement in her products will attracts more buyers ... just like Samsung attracting more and more fans.