haha my2.0NA =naza citra. he said 2.0 NA rite? haha.

1 dyno result cant be counted. wait until we got at least 3 results from 3 different cars

preve can fit 17 inch sport rim??? is it suitable for the car?

what is proton edar webside?
not http://www.proton-edar.com.my ???
cant acces from yesterday until now le??

didnt pay to top up bandwidth with the hosting site

preve launch bandwidth finish liao let ppl spam...

Hahahaha

I realized ut from yesterday. Didn't know its still out of service..

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Added on April 25, 2012, 1:26 pmP1 Pre But this one still up. I think mybe P1 ppl just wanna sell Preve lor..

This post has been edited by Saya_Dhuang: Apr 25 2012, 01:26 PM

the figure that prtn publishes is from engine. On crank, since its using cvt, no fix ratio involve, u will get diff hp n torque, normally higher. But also some case lower. I had informed earlier that gear ratio can immitate torque. And it wont burn ur cvt coz on engine, its still the same as been posted as prtn.

U get diff result when cfe couple with mt tranny. Thats is why some says the advantage of having cvt tranny. Yup, like asking people been driving 2.0 na, same question have u driving previous golf 1.6 tsi with 6 speed dsg n current 1.4 tsi with 7 speed dsg? This will be never ending arguments. But some journo says even in 1.4 tsi, it can exceed those in 2.4 na, but still the feeling is not the indicator even they mentioned it not felt like having neck snapping acceleration, doesnt mean its slow.

No need to believe me. Better read the expert review than me and try to understand the word refinement. Better off before many experts coming in :-), ha...ha...

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Added on April 25, 2012, 1:28 pmthe figure that prtn publishes is from engine. On crank, since its using cvt, no fix ratio involve, u will get diff hp n torque, normally higher. But also some case lower. I had informed earlier that gear ratio can immitate torque. And it wont burn ur cvt coz on engine, its still the same as been posted as prtn.

U get diff result when cfe couple with mt tranny. Thats is why some says the advantage of having cvt tranny. Yup, like asking people been driving 2.0 na, same question have u driving previous golf 1.6 tsi with 6 speed dsg n current 1.4 tsi with 7 speed dsg? This will be never ending arguments. But some journo says even in 1.4 tsi, it can exceed those in 2.4 na, but still the feeling is not the indicator even they mentioned it not felt like having neck snapping acceleration, doesnt mean its slow.

No need to believe me. Better read the expert review than me and try to understand the word refinement. Better off before many experts coming in :-), ha...ha...

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Added on April 25, 2012, 1:29 pmthe figure that prtn publishes is from engine. On crank, since its using cvt, no fix ratio involve, u will get diff hp n torque, normally higher. But also some case lower. I had informed earlier that gear ratio can immitate torque. And it wont burn ur cvt coz on engine, its still the same as been posted as prtn.

U get diff result when cfe couple with mt tranny. Thats is why some says the advantage of having cvt tranny. Yup, like asking people been driving 2.0 na, same question have u driving previous golf 1.6 tsi with 6 speed dsg n current 1.4 tsi with 7 speed dsg? This will be never ending arguments. But some journo says even in 1.4 tsi, it can exceed those in 2.4 na, but still the feeling is not the indicator even they mentioned it not felt like having neck snapping acceleration, doesnt mean its slow.

No need to believe me. Better read the expert review than me and try to understand the word refinement. Better off before many experts coming in :-), ha...ha...

This post has been edited by mat79: Apr 25 2012, 01:29 PM

one must not forgets its own roots...

Whoaaa..triple post there bro..yes i have drove the 1.4tsi polo, 1.8t and 2.0T A4...
These cars are fast..but like most auto car..u dont feel that fast..

The reason i said the preve is slow is that it feels so heavy, and as i said before, last week i played around the car for 30 mins with my collegue, went there with a Persona 1.6 Campro Base line, did a drag race in S mode, and lost to the persona. Thats why i questioned how proton got the 9.6s 0-100 thing

oh now i understand. tq mat

anyone tested the manual transmission one?

edited - my bad

This post has been edited by mutt: Apr 25 2012, 01:42 PM

Same here. Used to be proton basher. BIG time. But heck, they're finally doing something right. Why not eh?

I hate you. Off to the bank now. Dammit. Annoyed.

preve nice car

Impossible as Punch Powertrain's specification paper for VT3 states max safe input torque is at 220Nm, power is at 122kW (165bhp SAE) and max rev limit is 6500rpm. anything beyond that deteriorates the powertrain significantly and trust me, you don't want a belt to putus. Ask those kaki scooters how it feels having a belt putus.

http://www.punchpowertrain.com/files/Docs/Products/VT3.pdf

EDIT: the question is now how much input power losses was estimated by the dyno shop when running the Preve on dyno? Best if someone can publish the on-wheel dyno sheet

This post has been edited by almostthere: Apr 25 2012, 01:44 PM

i also think Proton themselves never drag race with persona.

LOL! You're bad bad boy...

even if they did, will they say that their new car with turbo is slower then their current gen cars? I still think their CVT is the preve's bottleneck.

heh.. but a manual Campro is kinda fast..especially those neos.. huhuhu.. im so tempted at the Neo R3 red colour one at glenmarie showroom haha..

This post has been edited by FrostLance: Apr 25 2012, 01:59 PM

there's lots of factor in determining manufacturer's performance claim. They can fit in low resistance tires, very highly inflated tires and also conduct the test in an environment favorable to them to obtain good results.

Thats why i said he needs to get new friends..