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Ppl protes ptptn shud b cut
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tobleroneberyls
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Apr 18 2012, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(keeting89 @ Apr 18 2012, 01:55 PM) Instead of protesting, why don they (students) study hard and get 1st class.. ptptn loan automatically waived.. So, for those study hard student, education is always free of charged.. aiyo, those play play one, complaint here and there.. it is an embarrassment for themselves as a student.. sbb tu org ckp blaja tinggi2 masuk U pun still bodoh..dun know how to think rational..
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yuyuyu
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Apr 18 2012, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(keeting89 @ Apr 18 2012, 01:55 PM) Instead of protesting, why don they (students) study hard and get 1st class.. ptptn loan automatically waived.. So, for those study hard student, education is always free of charged.. aiyo, those play play one, complaint here and there.. it is an embarrassment for themselves as a student.. This will not work dude. 1. This will further longkang-drop our IPTA standard because everyone graduating will be first class. Sounds familiar? Yeah just like Matrikulasi. 2. This will generate exam oriented graduates because everyone will be fighting for A's. Again familiar? SPM. They will have no skills other than taking exam
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pekkauwer
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Apr 18 2012, 06:56 PM
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Camni
MASUK PENJARA NAK? Penjara offer -x yah keje -makan free -kena tumbuk sikit(protes pandai buat tahanla sikit bro and sis)
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Mr.Wang
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Apr 18 2012, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(keeting89 @ Apr 18 2012, 01:55 PM) Instead of protesting, why don they (students) study hard and get 1st class.. ptptn loan automatically waived.. So, for those study hard student, education is always free of charged.. aiyo, those play play one, complaint here and there.. it is an embarrassment for themselves as a student.. If so many people got 1st class and ptptn has to waive the loan, I'm sure they will lose money. As a result,in the future, they will amend their policy stating all students must pay back full amount plus interest regardless of they're getting 1st class or not.
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fantasy1989
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Apr 18 2012, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(PADUK @ Apr 18 2012, 03:04 PM) i also on ptptn loan, for both my diploma and degree, the interest im paying per month currently is RM80, with a total loan i need to pay per month is RM400 my first job salary was RM970. nice kan? cool story bro ...degree out with salary rm970 ..u can buang your cert into tong sampah
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fantasy1989
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Apr 18 2012, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(Mr.Wang @ Apr 18 2012, 06:57 PM) If so many people got 1st class and ptptn has to waive the loan, I'm sure they will lose money. As a result,in the future, they will amend their policy stating all students must pay back full amount plus interest regardless of they're getting 1st class or not. if 1st class waived ptptn loan ...soon u will see market flooded with bunch of unqualified 1st class honor This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Apr 18 2012, 06:58 PM
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fantasy1989
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Apr 18 2012, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(PADUK @ Apr 18 2012, 07:00 PM) true story bro, i worked as a contract officer at one ministry, that is total i got after epf deductions, but thats 5 years ago lag, but still the RM80/month interest I'm paying sounds too much for said "yuran pentadbiran"  how come? ...standard office boy at my dad working company also got 1.3k + spm lv somemore
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fantasy1989
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Apr 18 2012, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(PADUK @ Apr 18 2012, 07:05 PM) that is contract bro, i was paid RM50/day. work 20 days can get RM1k/month, if got cuti raya or MC no salary liao, and u know how hard to look for decent job when u are fresh grad  dunno ..ayam fresh graduate and bunch of jobs offers
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fantasy1989
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Apr 18 2012, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(PADUK @ Apr 18 2012, 07:08 PM) maybe because you are godlike or very smart or just lucky in this economy probably lucky in economy ..btw what is your background?
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yinchet
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Apr 18 2012, 07:23 PM
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If you wish for peace, prepare for war
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I have no problem with free education. however the free education only apply to Government U and colleges only, not Private college and U. But I dun agree with those who borrow dun wan payback. instead of going for protest how about going for part time job. IIRC, in some countries they offer part time job for the student to support their student life without disrupting their studies. We should let them know nothing come free, you need to earn it.
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pandawan
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Apr 18 2012, 07:59 PM
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this protest has showed how ignorance are students nowadays in malaysia,
There ain't such thing as free lunch in this world,behind the free lunch someone has to bear the cost of it,
if u r expecting a free tertiary education then who's going to pay all sorts of expenses in the universities,at the end the costs will be diverted to the people in this country and this resulted a heavy taxes to the people.
For example rm200 book voucher,a political candy gave by the gomen,has worsen the gomen financial deficit which is already in a critical condition and ended up we as a taxpayers got to cover up the deficit.
FYI even in developed country such as uk ,usa there is no such thing as free uni education, they nid to either get a bank loan or part time job to pay for their living and tuition fee.
So pls dun spend your time on this trivial and pointless issue and aim for a more holistic problems that faced by m'sia now,(e.g systematic corruption,economics equity,education reform,electoral reform etc) so that everyone in this country has a equal opportunity to maximize their potentials regardless what races u r, what's ur belief and where r u from as long as u work hard and play by the rules.
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Hexism
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Apr 18 2012, 08:03 PM
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education yang kena bayar pun pointer ke longkang , kalau free memang terus masuk kubur la pointer. this is fact.
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memphiz_zero88
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Apr 18 2012, 08:05 PM
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My stars has gone. T_T
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QUOTE(Hexism @ Apr 18 2012, 08:03 PM) education yang kena bayar pun pointer ke longkang , kalau free memang terus masuk kubur la pointer. this is fact. straight to the point
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lastlovesong
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Apr 18 2012, 08:27 PM
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i agree to free education up to form 5/form 6(i know its "free") or after current ptptn loaner payback the dues.
wish it come true so i dun need to work long then only got enough money to take masters.
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gry
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Apr 18 2012, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Apr 18 2012, 02:39 PM) wat they want is free education free education = no loan = no interest = after grad, go to work, baru buat loan sana loan sini for car, house, etc2 cancel ptptn => provide free education thats the goal why TS & alike cant see that? Obviously PTPTN is a blunder that needs to be removed and the student debt has to be written off. We need to go back to the drawing board for a new and comprehensive education policy from primary to secondary and tertiary level. A new formula must be found. A formula that is best for the country and its future generation. And if the demand is of some standard and quality, it is not going to be cheap either. But going by the way the government is spending at the moment, I doubt that we do not have the money to fund a new education system.
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joe_mamak
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Apr 18 2012, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(freak-a-leash @ Apr 18 2012, 02:37 PM) from abg joe_mamak  You should quote something else too. Someone said it is now semester break. Break lah wei. Some people balik hometown, some go KLCC lepak, some go holiday, these go camping.
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freak-a-leash
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Apr 19 2012, 07:55 AM
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New Member
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Apr 18 2012, 10:52 PM) You should quote something else too. Someone said it is now semester break. Break lah wei. Some people balik hometown, some go KLCC lepak, some go holiday, these go camping.  ala abang ni. jgn la marah. saya tau tgh semester break sekarang ni.
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mykazza
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Apr 19 2012, 08:15 AM
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sudah pinjam x mau bayar balik, bodoh.. masa pinjam isi borang panjang macam kamus oxford pun sanggup, suruh bayar balik nak abolish pula.. apa punya banggang ni manusia.. x mau susah jgn pinjam la..
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coyouth
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Apr 19 2012, 08:39 AM
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posting in another ptptn thread... even if you're fighting for free education, but you have taken a study loan, pay it back. what's the fuss about?
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joe_mamak
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Apr 19 2012, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(freak-a-leash @ Apr 19 2012, 07:55 AM) ala abang ni. jgn la marah. saya tau tgh semester break sekarang ni.  Eh? I mana ada marah?
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