mind telling which progress halted under rafa???

pool fans are the bestest fans ever..respect that

100% original, no plastics..no wonder MU fans dislike you so much

This post has been edited by raf93: Apr 17 2012, 11:33 PM

Please, we deserve no high hat.
We have bad apples in our yard too.

Who give a shit whether Mu fans like us or not? Why not ask them back, which team supporters DO NOT HATE THEM?

i don't hate them

i sense sarcasm

First team.alonso left,arbeloa left.We finished 7th that season after being poor for majority of the season.When did you start supporting liverpool?

I hate them.

i wonder why fans from other team love to post something funny in liverpool thread... this time 19yo kid supporting chelsea... oh ya they must be feeling threatened... we decide their destiny for the final ucl spot in the league and the domestic cup final...

i also wonder is there any Liver fans post in other football club thread..?

we finnished 7th that season is not because of rafa, its mainly because of H&G ..ever player and staff doesnt know what the future will be like, but i did agree the reason alonso feel unsettled is because of rafa wanted to sign barry to replace him which makes him wanna leave because he is not sure of his status in the club. but i dont think that is the reason clubs progress were halted

But I guess we can't really do anything. The awards by the FA are bullshit anyway!!

Rafa had to sell to buy. Again, this was brought up thousand of times. Barry held on at villa for 1 more season out of respect being the captain but gave lfc the word. Alonso then gave the performance of the season the following season, and we all were so grateful for him, but his mind had made up. We then sold alonso that end season, MC then hijack barry deal. the rest was history.

There were reasons why rafa wanted barry for squad depth, after all its a long season but if H&G allowed us to have both alonso & barry for contention for places then all the mess should not hve erupted but nnooooo. We are just a famous club being bleed by the vampires. Nothing was done to improve our earnings (owners), no better commercial deal, no negotiation to help better the commercial rights for lfc, they were just milking lfc of the funds, and waiting to sell lfc to the highest bidder without lifting much assistance to the club. Good riddance f#*king vampires.

Most lfc fans didnt care much, so as long as they hated rafa for selling alonso, the lfc destruction once he (alonso) left a hole in the midfield, Barry gone back on his word and opted sheikh's money.

depends on which side of camp about rafa.


Progress halted under rafa? yeah, he wanted to improve by getting right players but the then management never supported his vision. every year after torres buy, lfc been spending less, oh we needed to sell to buy. barry's fee wasnt cheap, so to raise the fee, a big sacrifice needed to be made.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Apr 18 2012, 02:03 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...-Liverpool.html

This is one of the reasons.
Look at the net spend. It explains a lot on how we ended 7th.

2007/08:
IN: £5m Lucas; £270,000 Jose Dominguez; £1.8m Leto; £20.2m Torres; £5m Benayoun; £11.5m Babel; £1.3m Insua; £6.5m Skrtel; £18.6m Mascherano; Free Voronin; Undisclosed Nemeth, Itandje. Total: £70.7m.
OUT: £2.7m Sinama-Pongolle; £100,000 O’Donnell; £4m Luis Garcia; £6m Cisse; £7.5m Bellamy; £3.5m Gonzalez; £1.2m Palletta; £3.5m Kirkland; £8.2m Sissoko; Free Dudek, Fowler. Total: £36.7m.
NET SPEND: £34m.
PREMIER LEAGUE: 4th

Ok, I suppose the little windfall was we had CL money?

and ever year after the 07/08 the owners must have said, no support; raise fund yourself...Rafa sold more (depleting the already fragile squad depth of lfc) to buy players.

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2008/09:
IN: £7m Dossena; £3.5m Cavalieri; £1.5m N’gog; £19m Keane; £8m Riera; Free Degen. Total: £39m.
OUT: £4m Riise; £11m Crouch; £2.25m Guthrie; £3.25m Carson; £16m Keane; Free Kewell; Undisclosed Le Tallec, Finnan, Hobbs. Total: £36.5m.
NET SPEND: £2.5m.
PREMIER LEAGUE: 2nd


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2009/10:
IN: £17.5m Johnson; £17.1m Aquilani; £2m Kyrgiakos; £160,000 Ayala; £1.5m Maxi Rodriguez. Total: £38.26m.
OUT: £250,000 Anderson; £3m Leto; £3.5m Arbeloa; £30m Alonso; £4.4m Dossena; £1.5m Voronin; Free Pennant, Miki Roque. Total: £42.65m.
NET SPEND: -£4.39m.


Wow, guess Rafa must have been a bloody thrifty miser no wonder he gets the bad rap




side-note

Btw, I told my Chelsea supporter friend, if Chelsea plays to its strength, don't be surprise they might just do a 'Liverpool' Istanbul at this years CL. Against Bayern in the final. (of course many thinks I've gone bonkers on my prediction)

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Apr 18 2012, 01:36 PM

Maybe because we constantly claim to be the best fans but behave like everyone else? I can see how others find this comical.

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Added on April 18, 2012, 12:04 pmHyper, are u in KK now? Comin over for a meeting. Gonna have drinks there tonight I imagine.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: Apr 18 2012, 12:04 PM

Good posts Kool and Aleune. But lets not open old wounds shall we. We know what happened and anyone with an ounce of common sense would know that we shot ourselves on the foot.

Anyways, I'm looking forward to tonight's match. It's going to be a hell of a match imo. Chelsea have a score to settle and will be up for this game. Be interesting to see how Pep and Barca will go into this game. I have not seen Masc play as a defender for Barca so it will be interesting to see if he starts as one. It makes total sense to start him tho, he's had tons of experience against Chelsea.

This post has been edited by hfi: Apr 18 2012, 01:08 PM

On another note, Dowd will be the referee for FA CUP FINAL!

Yup' we all moved on. Hell, yes we are in full support of KD. Right here, right now.

It will be an interesting game against Barcelona. Any team against Barcelona will definitely start as underdog. I don't see Chelsea as a lesser team, in fact I do think they had the better squad, equal to MC this season. sure they had some old guards, but in terms of players for positions, both Chelsea and MC just nick ahead overall in depth against alll other premiership teams. It's just the problems off field that hampered both their season (sounds familiar isn't it?).
But In terms of better squad for the future, better prepared for years ahead, in simple words, a step ahead of squad continueity, grudges aside, it's our rival; ManU.

Barcelona is great but it's the highest they can achieved. Sort of a plateaued this whole season.

To play barcelona, I think Chelsea may wanna look into rafa textbook he's done that with Valencia, and with us too This is not to say looking down their current manager but if there any squad that can halt Barcelona this season lies with the blue (chelsea) and the red (bayern).

Chelsea despite all their off field problems has entered CL semis more times in the last 5-6 years the even ManU, arsenal and us. (if I'm not mistaken) that reflects the depth of the squad.

I hope that keeps Chelsea preoccupied on CL and the league, they might just trade off concentrating for the coming FA cup final, which comes in handy for us.

[edited again, as typing on a tablet can be an ass at times]

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Apr 18 2012, 01:58 PM

its not only because of the tactician, but the spirit of Red that make us strong in UCL before. we never surrender easily which make us very hard to face. Milan and Barca know that.