Rafa had to sell to buy. Again, this was brought up thousand of times. Barry held on at villa for 1 more season out of respect being the captain but gave lfc the word. Alonso then gave the performance of the season the following season, and we all were so grateful for him, but his mind had made up. We then sold alonso that end season, MC then hijack barry deal. the rest was history.

There were reasons why rafa wanted barry for squad depth, after all its a long season but if H&G allowed us to have both alonso & barry for contention for places then all the mess should not hve erupted but nnooooo. We are just a famous club being bleed by the vampires. Nothing was done to improve our earnings (owners), no better commercial deal, no negotiation to help better the commercial rights for lfc, they were just milking lfc of the funds, and waiting to sell lfc to the highest bidder without lifting much assistance to the club. Good riddance f#*king vampires.

Most lfc fans didnt care much, so as long as they hated rafa for selling alonso, the lfc destruction once he (alonso) left a hole in the midfield, Barry gone back on his word and opted sheikh's money.

depends on which side of camp about rafa.


Progress halted under rafa? yeah, he wanted to improve by getting right players but the then management never supported his vision. every year after torres buy, lfc been spending less, oh we needed to sell to buy. barry's fee wasnt cheap, so to raise the fee, a big sacrifice needed to be made.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Apr 18 2012, 02:03 PM

2007/08:
IN: £5m Lucas; £270,000 Jose Dominguez; £1.8m Leto; £20.2m Torres; £5m Benayoun; £11.5m Babel; £1.3m Insua; £6.5m Skrtel; £18.6m Mascherano; Free Voronin; Undisclosed Nemeth, Itandje. Total: £70.7m.
OUT: £2.7m Sinama-Pongolle; £100,000 O’Donnell; £4m Luis Garcia; £6m Cisse; £7.5m Bellamy; £3.5m Gonzalez; £1.2m Palletta; £3.5m Kirkland; £8.2m Sissoko; Free Dudek, Fowler. Total: £36.7m.
NET SPEND: £34m.
PREMIER LEAGUE: 4th

Ok, I suppose the little windfall was we had CL money?

and ever year after the 07/08 the owners must have said, no support; raise fund yourself...Rafa sold more (depleting the already fragile squad depth of lfc) to buy players.

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2008/09:
IN: £7m Dossena; £3.5m Cavalieri; £1.5m N’gog; £19m Keane; £8m Riera; Free Degen. Total: £39m.
OUT: £4m Riise; £11m Crouch; £2.25m Guthrie; £3.25m Carson; £16m Keane; Free Kewell; Undisclosed Le Tallec, Finnan, Hobbs. Total: £36.5m.
NET SPEND: £2.5m.
PREMIER LEAGUE: 2nd


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2009/10:
IN: £17.5m Johnson; £17.1m Aquilani; £2m Kyrgiakos; £160,000 Ayala; £1.5m Maxi Rodriguez. Total: £38.26m.
OUT: £250,000 Anderson; £3m Leto; £3.5m Arbeloa; £30m Alonso; £4.4m Dossena; £1.5m Voronin; Free Pennant, Miki Roque. Total: £42.65m.
NET SPEND: -£4.39m.


Wow, guess Rafa must have been a bloody thrifty miser no wonder he gets the bad rap




side-note

Btw, I told my Chelsea supporter friend, if Chelsea plays to its strength, don't be surprise they might just do a 'Liverpool' Istanbul at this years CL. Against Bayern in the final. (of course many thinks I've gone bonkers on my prediction)

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Apr 18 2012, 01:36 PM

Yup' we all moved on. Hell, yes we are in full support of KD. Right here, right now.

It will be an interesting game against Barcelona. Any team against Barcelona will definitely start as underdog. I don't see Chelsea as a lesser team, in fact I do think they had the better squad, equal to MC this season. sure they had some old guards, but in terms of players for positions, both Chelsea and MC just nick ahead overall in depth against alll other premiership teams. It's just the problems off field that hampered both their season (sounds familiar isn't it?).
But In terms of better squad for the future, better prepared for years ahead, in simple words, a step ahead of squad continueity, grudges aside, it's our rival; ManU.

Barcelona is great but it's the highest they can achieved. Sort of a plateaued this whole season.

To play barcelona, I think Chelsea may wanna look into rafa textbook he's done that with Valencia, and with us too This is not to say looking down their current manager but if there any squad that can halt Barcelona this season lies with the blue (chelsea) and the red (bayern).

Chelsea despite all their off field problems has entered CL semis more times in the last 5-6 years the even ManU, arsenal and us. (if I'm not mistaken) that reflects the depth of the squad.

I hope that keeps Chelsea preoccupied on CL and the league, they might just trade off concentrating for the coming FA cup final, which comes in handy for us.

[edited again, as typing on a tablet can be an ass at times]

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Apr 18 2012, 01:58 PM

where we stand in the league in the end still matters, even if out of contention for CL spot.

above everton is a must. as high as we can as we believe in ourselves.

video is blurry can't really make out but i see lucas (far left), maxi, suarez (i think), Sterling, carrager, Shelvey (unbelievebly short!), gerrard, kuyt, bellamy, reina

english fa dislike scousers one, they knew liverpool fans will have the numbers. and knowingly dont want wembley to be anfield 2.0

there are still those who do not share the same wavelength or sentiment about rafa. not digging the past again but something we look back & wonder where the impetus began after years of aimless wilderness. we can't forsee the future or predict what lies ahead but thank god someone had a compass and showed a path. right or wrong, but it seems there is light ahead..




now, not to say our ex gaffer gave specific instructions on how the academy should conduct its training, we cannot wrong the man who had vision.

Kenny Dalglish is the best thing to happen post Roy (who was shifting us to relegation zone & calamity football). < never forget that.

Weather he (KD) is the correct choice to bring us ahead, it remains to be seen. weather KD will be kept as manager for lfc, well, its pretty much for the owners & fans to decide.

This season, as in 90% of the games we drawn or lost, we pretty much almost dominated in but couldn't score. KD gave the freedom to the players to express themselves, fans wanted to see this. yet we were unable to score to win games. yes some of us might remind me that while we did score for fun under rafa, we didn't snatch the title. agree..but at least we aren't on the wrong half of the standings.

Good teams should try to win, at times win ugly. winning or at least getting a favourable result keeps us in contention for the title & in search of trophies.

We haven't been quite able to do that this season.

now, look closely to the choice of words KD has said the pass days.

KD praised rafa for the work & people he brought in to the academy. He knows as in any one who are the people who has LFc close to their hearts. I guess we have to acknowledge some people has a vision & contacts.

What lies ahead is unknown. What choice the owners of Lfc take is unknown, but if for the interest of LFc, KD is willing to do anything for the sake of the club.

Firstly, I like how we are playing (pass n move), its good for the eye. Of course we aren't nicking goals. I'm no manager, nor equipped with words to describe how to dictate play like some of you guys.

I've a little criticism that we aren't adaptive in our approach to slay our opponents.
KD hasn't been able to sub in someone or tinker tactically.

In honesty, gien the way we play, fast & hectic, we are probably only missing 'link' midfielder are the 'final provider', a jinking fella pops in & out, almost anonymous to the opposition. which is why Manu is forever unable to replace scoales (yet). Players who aren't able to adapt the hectic pace is probably unable to get the right touch, first touch, to position himself or settle correctly to score. which is why certain players seems ill equipped to KD's pass & move.

Do we need a change in manager after this season? I hope not. I do hope KD gets the right people to connect to dots.

jose mourino ? probably the best manager at the biggest club,... well second richest club in the world. He ain't interested in liverpoolfc anymore, he did mention he was before but not under those circumstances. I don't favour him.

Going to an unknown 'manager' is probably telling ourselves we are as clueless appointing Uncle Roy.

I hope we resist a change of manager next season. At least not to clueless, visionless manager. We are rebuilding with a good set of academy hoping the right break & nurturing. I'll buy that.

i'm looking fwd to the final, just hoped for spurs.

hope chelsea gets another shot into the CL final, i'm sure roman wants his hands on that CL trophy (for now we can only dream of such a shot in CL)

how 'we' been playing pleasing football but not clinical.



oh my, tomkins seems to nail it eloquently. why does tomkins seem to share the same wavelength on how some of the fans thinks (but unable to put in the right words).

its pretty (tomkin's) obvious now where most of suarez goals comes from. the others need to do more work. leaving suarez doing all the (individual) creativity may be pleasing but results in low low turnovers (goals). sure it might 'free' others but its clearly isn't happening.

His salary, probably up there with the lfc seniors.

KD has mentioned that aquilani isn't in his game plans early this season and shipping him out (loan) might be best then to have an expensive bench. probably thinks it might be detrimentral to his form if all he does is to peck behind Henderson & adam. (I guess)

i wont take anything away from chelsea. they played with a gameplan & stuck to it well.

i would think if we were in their shoes, i hope we too could execute that plan well. (i acknowledge we are miles behind a team like barca)

i don't think he'll make KD's grade (not to take a dig at Dalglish) but the way alonso operates isn't the type take fits into the formation kenny has for us this season. (just an opinion)

jonjo was bought when he was a nobody back then.

Henderson, being english (suppose) to be key player in sunderland, hence the price tag

Actually anyone who has played a good amount of football (big field) knows just where the post is, it's just 'knowing' if the keeper is out of position or not. (speaking of non league local football).

We'll never never know exactly if it was a lecture or a good team mate banter (between the two)

+1

most opposing fans don't get it (sadly some of ours too).

it's a rather poignant reminder that after all.. and no matter what we've been thru, it's the brotherhood of the club that keeps the club glowing.

IS the LowYat Football Lounge wallpaper permanently of OT?

if it changes stadium to stadium, fine; however (if it doesn't) it gives in impression of moderators being a little self...



yup he must be playing too much saxophone at LFc. throw kenny G out!!

This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 2 2012, 09:25 AM

winning trophies this season IS a start.

Ultimately we need to be in the league of clubs that are financially well off.
Getting back into contention for CL & rejoining the competition of the highest level in europe.

That will help our cause to ultimately try to win the trophy that has eluded us for so may years.