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darklight79
post Aug 10 2012, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Aug 10 2012, 05:33 PM)



Swim/jog/hiking almost everyday except 1 or 2 rest day...


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THIS is your mistake. Too much cardio blunts fat loss. It blunts insulin sensitivity. It raises cortisol chronically. NEVER depend on cardio as your primary tool for fat loss.
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post Aug 10 2012, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Aug 10 2012, 10:12 PM)
Aikz??? Today just got a PT told me that need to do cardio at least 3 times a week for fat loss >"<
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Hi Sarah. Here it is:-

Here are ten reasons why I don't do aerobic exercise:

But first, what is aerobic exercise? Any steady state locomotion elevating the heart rate into the zone for twenty minutes or more. The zone is determined by formulas based on age and resting heart rate.

Dr. Kenneth Cooper, the father of aerobic exercise (and the person who coined the term) completely recanted his assertions regarding aerobic
exercise. After observing a disproportionate number of his aerobic-enthusiast friends die of cancer and heart disease, he reversed his ideas on the benefits of excessive aerobic exercise. He now claims anything in excess of 20 minutes has greatly diminishing returns.

Now, ten reasons why it not only doesn’t work but is a poor use of exercise time:

1.Oxidative Stress
Which causes a breakdown of tissues. It also predisposes one to cancer and heart attack.

2.Elevated cortisol production
Which causes a breakdown of muscle tissue and increases fat storage or depot fat. People do aerobics to alleviate stress yet end up creating more stress.

3.Lowered testosterone and HGH levels
For men, aerobics are a form of chemical castration. Low T-levels are associated with lowered libido, depression, anxiety, increased body fat and decreased muscle tissue. This contributes to muscle-wasting and lowers the basal metabolic rate.

4.Increased appetite and a tendency toward binge eating patterns
Aerobic exercise makes people hungry!

5.Excessive Muscular Fatigue
Making it difficult to do other more productive forms of activity. Aerobics creates muscular weakness.

6.Conversion of fast-twitch muscle fibers to slow-twitch
The loss of fast-twitch muscle fibers contributes to aging and the loss of explosive power and speed. People become slower and slower.

7.Burns a relatively small amount of calories vs. the time spent
One large meal completely offsets the pitiful amount of calories burned in an hour aerobics session.

8.Overuse injuries to the feet, ankles, and knees from excessive, continual force transmitted throughout the body
This is exacerbated by over-engineered running shoes which cushion the feet in such a way to create a neural amnesia.

9.Shortening i.e., deformation, of the muscle tissue from repetitive mid-range (partial range) movements
This creates inflexibility, immobility, and muscle imbalances. Besides being tight, the bodies postural alignment becomes compromised. Aerobics create tight, inflexible bodies that are in chronic pain.

10.Adrenal burnout
A consequence of the “feel good” neurotransmitters which also stimulate the release of adrenaline. Adrenaline is the fight or flight hormone. Excessive adrenaline creates an addictive response and people going routinely for the so called “high” of running end up with adrenal burnout, e.g., chronic fatigue and depression.
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post Aug 10 2012, 10:19 PM

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I better post this before some retard cardio bunnies take offense and start crying to me about how they lost sooooo much bodyfat with cardio.

DISCLAIMER: I dont mind if cardio is used for CARDIOVASCULAR health but if used as a primary tool for fat loss, next to useless and time consuming. It brings about diminishing returns.
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post Aug 11 2012, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Aug 11 2012, 03:39 PM)
Thanks Darklight!  notworthy.gif
Do you have any suggestion of exercises for women to do cutting? I found a lot that applied for men, but not sure which will be suitable for women.  sweat.gif
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It is the same Sarah. It applies to both sexes. Only difference is the fat distribution areas between men and women. And the percentages. Men need less than 10% for abs and the Adonis belt to show. Women need around 15% if I am not mistaken.

I have female friends who do brief, heavy, intense lifting including my gorgeous sis and she is trim, fit and tough but not ugly muscular. Weight lifting > cardio.
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post Aug 12 2012, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Aug 12 2012, 12:38 PM)
well to run faster u need to be light, muscular aint going to help.. and you need to run more
same as for swimming.

I need to cut on a lot of weight, realise yesterday when I do rock climbing, my friend can barely belay me..
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You sure you know what you're tAlking about? Usain Bolt. Small? Do you know how much weightlifting pro rock climbers do?
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post Aug 14 2012, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(xDjWanNabex @ Aug 14 2012, 10:02 AM)
darklight, so if cardio is not a good tool for fat loss what is? I do weight lifting too. i do a circuit then some intervals or go for RPM. but now i mainly do lifting and intervals. And at night for for muay thai classes, which burn the shit outa anyone! I go almost 4~5 times a week.

Is this over pushing?
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I hit gym twice a week. 40 mins per session. No cardio, no stupid RPM nor intervals and i'm at single digit bodyfat. Summary, for fat loss: diet >cardio.
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post Aug 15 2012, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Aug 14 2012, 02:31 PM)
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darklight, i feel like tagging you to gym
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It's not as hard as it sounds. Sometimes doing too much can be counter productive. My rest days are when i burn bodyfat. Cardio can be a tool to create a larger caloric deficit but as a primary tool to rely on for fat loss... Nah. One cAnnot outtrain a bad diet.
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post Aug 31 2012, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(ibrahim_1109 @ Aug 29 2012, 10:54 AM)
You do not take breakfast. that is very bad. Breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
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Are you gonna spank him?

QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Aug 29 2012, 07:13 PM)
I am taking herbal life as supplement for breakfast
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Now I want to spank you. Bad boy.

QUOTE(kelv1983 @ Aug 30 2012, 05:53 PM)
That is when i have no time to prepare a proper breakfast or too lazy to think to eat any ...
here is to seek advice for the gym training session ......is it done properly or need enchancement
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I don't take breakfast either. I have poor time management. That's why I'm so skinny at single digit bf%.

QUOTE(ibrahim_1109 @ Aug 30 2012, 11:29 PM)
I think 'she' is right. You have problem with time management.
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You have a problem with misconception. Supper is a must for me. More important than breakfast actually. =)
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post Jan 21 2013, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(inachi @ Jan 19 2013, 08:35 PM)
before i toning up my body, i need to get rid of the layers of flabby tummy fat first. Issit cardio acivities are the most effective one? Any suggestions?

of coz i take care of my diet too
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I don't do cardio. I use diet to achieve single digit bf%. Never, EVER become too dependent on cardio to get lean. You can't outtrain a bad diet. Use cardio to supplement your fat loss regime.

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post Jan 21 2013, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(DT1 @ Jan 21 2013, 08:52 PM)


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No, decreased bioavailability in raw eggs. Cook them!
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post Jan 22 2013, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(DT1 @ Jan 21 2013, 10:25 PM)
That's for the protein right? I guess if one can get access to guaranteed safe eggs, then consuming it raw intermittently would be beneficial, in terms of retaining the micro-nutrients.
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Nah. Just cook it mate.
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post Jan 23 2013, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(skycrawler @ Jan 22 2013, 10:45 PM)
So its okay if I do cardio for just 2 mins before start weightlifting?
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I recommend 1 min 59 secs.
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post Jan 23 2013, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(siles1991 @ Jan 22 2013, 08:15 PM)
What is your diet?
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Lol, you don't want to follow my diet. Trust me. What I'm trying to imply is, tweak your diet to its optimum state, THEN think of supplementing cardio IF your MAIN purpose for cardio is for fat loss. Because you WILL get bored of it.

However, if the purpose of you doing cardio is primarily for cardiovascular health, by all means, not a problem.

I'm not anti cardio, I am pro diet when it comes to fat loss. How would you know if the diet was working if cardio is added in before the former is optimized. Get me? =)
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post Jan 29 2013, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(skycrawler @ Jan 28 2013, 12:59 PM)
- Since I aim to loss fat , deswai low carbs sweat.gif Should I replace those rice with oat or 100% Whole Grain bread?

- Micronutrients = multivitamin right? Calcium Zinc Sodium and vitamins? What food I have to take for these nutrients? I tot fruits and veges have this.
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Low carbs may or may not work for you. I grow fat if I take too much protein, believe it or not. Search up Zone Diet or Isocaloric Diet. You might try upping your fat intake while decreasing carbs.

QUOTE(little @ Jan 28 2013, 01:39 PM)
Increase ur exercise / work out frequency n duration could increase metabolism rate. Thus, fat will be burned faster, but at the same time, u will feel hunger faster too! Then u need to control on ur food.. Eat less oily food n sugary food. U can eat as much as u want as long as u able to burn it.
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No, it only works to a certain extent. Excessive cardio is treated by the body the same way as it treats an excessive caloric deficit. You actually cause slowdown of fat burning. Slow and steady, a loss of 1.5-2lbs per week with a 10-20% caloric deficit is the key here.
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post Feb 3 2013, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(wannmetal @ Feb 3 2013, 12:45 AM)
my diet.

breakfast- i drink psylium husk, then 1 litre of water.

tea break- i usually drink 1 litre of water.

lunch-2pcs of wholegrain bread with 1/4 mushroom soup campbell in satchet and 1 litre of water

evening tea- 1 litre of water

dinner- 100% whey gold ON and 1 pc of wholegrain bread with 1/4 mushroom soup campbell in satchet and 1 litre of water

Evening workout (4 days a week)
1. slow jog for 30 minutes
2. weight training for 45-60 minutes

my weight is 87 kg and my height is 167.
currently obese and i really want to cut out fats
i use psylium husk as fibre
and whey gold as protein.
and i drink a lot of water.

in a week, also has cheat day where i take rice.
is it ok??
or am i being to extreme?
currently doing this for a week.
and lost only 1 KG.
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Sigh..... Do you know that if you go TOO low calories, your body holds on to fat? Lol, congrats, you don't do enough research.
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post Feb 3 2013, 03:18 PM

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I very stressed when i see people doing extreme things to lose fat. They don't realize it's a slow steady process.
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post Feb 21 2013, 05:03 PM

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Your diet controls 80% if not more, of how you look like. Training is only the icing of the cake.

I don't do cardio and my gym sessions are less than 40 mins per session. If I'm lazy, I just hit gym twice a week.

What am I trying to say here?

----------------------------------> Fix the diet. And please, don't do stupid things like COMPLETELY stop mamak and fast food. You want to make the diet fun. You want to make it into a long term adherence process, not a torture.

In fact, call it a damn lifestyle change, don't use the word diet.
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post Feb 21 2013, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(DT1 @ Feb 21 2013, 05:13 PM)
though you could also explain more on fixing the diet.


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Why? I don't need to list the basics down. It can be explained by a lot of you. I just need to make certain people wake up when they do illogical things like too big of a cal deficit, torture themselves with a totally 100% healthy diet with zero allowance for mamak foods and fast foods once in a while which make life worth living and encourages long term adherence.

ALL diets work. Not ALL diets are optimal because of the problem of long term adherence. If i start specifying what each and everyone should do to lose weight, then I will be writing a bloody long essay right bro?
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post Feb 21 2013, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Feb 21 2013, 05:31 PM)
its all about how much one wants the change and be healthy and not just talk about it and give all kinda excuses.

If you start young its easier to keep it going as you age, trust me, been there, and done it as well.
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True and well said but let me add, if you start with small changes, no matter WHAT age you are, it's easier to stick to it long term.
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post Feb 22 2013, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(skycrawler @ Feb 21 2013, 12:56 PM)

Apply clean diet


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You wash your food a lot?

But gj on the weight loss. Sounds like you lost it at a steady pace. 1 kg a week? Very good actually.

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