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post Apr 11 2012, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(tiensong @ Apr 10 2012, 07:22 AM)
a bit food right now.....bcos nobody at home so nobody open fridge, temp will go up slowly.....now i worried i have to change fridge every year bcos to save 20 bucks per month??


Added on April 10, 2012, 7:24 am

i will tell her tis point....thx
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This is the least worry (change fridge every year), the more worry is food inside spoilt, make the fridge odour, and potential diarrhea, if serious food poisoning as well.
Health is priceless, and certain worth more than 20 buck per month.

If nobody open the fridge and temperature go up slowly, the fridge compressor won't be running and consuming electricity, the compressor only run when the temp is going up to the threshold set.
Want to save electricity?
Get a smaller fridge, don't set too low the temp, use the inverter type etc.

Only switch off if there is no foods inside.

Don't be penny wise and pound foolish.
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post Apr 11 2012, 02:35 AM

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When you off the fridge make sure it is wipe dry and open the doors for air circulation let the germs die otherwise bacteria will grow inside. Bacteria not only grow with closed doors on the surface compartments but also inside layer where you cannot see, cannot clean. So dont think when you clean it with soap later it will be ok. Air it. No moisture no germs. Germs die instead of multiplying.
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post Apr 11 2012, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Eleganz Concept @ Apr 10 2012, 03:51 PM)
you see, fridge is using compressor to keep the temperature (just like air cond), say if u set it to 16 degree, compressor hv some + -, if the temp increase to 18 or something, then compressor only start working to keep low temp back to 15, when reach 15, the compressor is stop until next time is reach 18. and, the fridge light is only on when u open your fridge, so in the time of compressor is not working, that is almost no current is using, that already saving your money already.

But, if u turn it off, and when u back, the temp may be already over 24 or  and is take very long to low down the temp back to 15. that cost you more power for sure. By save your money, actually still another thing can do, since u dont hv much thing in fridge, keep the temp bit higher then middle, that will save your compressor power.
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good explanation....thank you


Added on April 11, 2012, 11:45 am
QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 11 2012, 01:49 AM)
This is the least worry (change fridge every year), the more worry is food inside spoilt, make the fridge odour, and potential diarrhea, if serious food poisoning as well.
Health is priceless, and certain worth more than 20 buck per month.

If nobody open the fridge and temperature go up slowly, the fridge compressor won't be running and consuming electricity, the compressor only run when the temp is going up to the threshold set.
Want to save electricity?
Get a smaller fridge, don't set too low the temp, use the inverter type etc.

Only switch off if there is no foods inside.

Don't be penny wise and pound foolish.
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thanks for advices...


Added on April 11, 2012, 11:49 am
QUOTE(stevie8 @ Apr 11 2012, 02:35 AM)
When you off the fridge make sure it is wipe dry and open the doors for air circulation let the germs die otherwise bacteria will grow inside. Bacteria not only grow with closed doors on the surface compartments but also inside layer where you cannot see, cannot clean. So dont think when you clean it with soap later it will be ok. Air it. No moisture no germs. Germs die instead of multiplying.
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understood...thanks



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post Apr 11 2012, 12:17 PM

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this really sound like idiocy at providing solution- wife

make no sense turn off fridge when not at home will save electricity.
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post Apr 11 2012, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Apr 11 2012, 12:17 PM)
this really sound like idiocy at providing solution- wife

make no sense turn off fridge when not at home will save electricity.
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can not say which solution r clever or idiot bcos man and woman think differently....at the end is still my fault bcos i earn not enough money which cause wife think in such way


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post Apr 11 2012, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(tiensong @ Apr 11 2012, 03:04 PM)
can not say which solution r clever or idiot bcos man and woman think differently....at the end is still my fault bcos i earn not enough money which cause wife think in such way
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In this new age, income is not dependent by husband only.
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post Apr 11 2012, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(tiensong @ Apr 11 2012, 06:04 PM)
can not say which solution r clever or idiot bcos man and woman think differently....at the end is still my fault bcos i earn not enough money which cause wife think in such way
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look, its not the earning. Its the equipment you own. For instance; you own an 25 year old fridge & its been making noise n issues..defect, so its time to change to something proper & less issue.

Having old fridge; n want to save like just a small RM20..might as well dont have fridge & eat outside always. That even more savvy lolz

& to have value for money- its advisable to change every 6-10 years. Appliances always have defect.

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post Apr 12 2012, 02:36 AM

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i think i've seen somewhere that says turning off fridge for long period of time causes the gas to go empty?
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post Apr 12 2012, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(tiensong @ Apr 11 2012, 03:04 PM)
can not say which solution r clever or idiot bcos man and woman think differently....at the end is still my fault bcos i earn not enough money which cause wife think in such way
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post Apr 12 2012, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(DonutZai @ Apr 12 2012, 02:36 AM)
i think i've seen somewhere that says turning off fridge for long period of time causes the gas to go empty?
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Not true. If that is the case all the gas in the fridge in stock will go empty.


Added on April 12, 2012, 10:28 amWe cannot say someone for being clever or idiot trying to save some money.

I have a friend who tried to save some fuel/petrol coming downhill by swtiching off the engine. You know what happened next? The steering locked!!!!! and he crashed ! Whose fault? The car designer/engineer who try to prevent thief without considering the ignorant of driver/common people and without making sure enough warning about auto locking of steering and think all of us will remember the steering will lock itself! And we are talking about live and death. Idiot desiger/engineer, right? Still there are so many cars being stolen every day steering lock or not.

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post Apr 12 2012, 06:15 PM

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Added on April 11, 2012, 1:48 am
All fridge got some sound except if it is loud or soft. The bigger the fridge the noisier it is. So dont be too proud that you have big fridge hahahahaha... biggrin.gif

Buying big fridge is to test it before delivery. make sure the place is quiet. Test two units at the same time. Once delievred the usual answer is it is NORMAL. of course it is normal if it got no sound it is abnormal. Same goes for aircond but you cannot test. So better check here in this forum or ask before going for the model you intent to buy.
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It's only 490L doh.gif no really big just normal for a family of 4... never test already sent here and now they say is normal... the sounds is not super loud but infact.. hmmm sharp i can say... the eeeeee sounds so sharp when i work at dining area for 3 - 4 hours i felt dizzt from the eeee sounds doh.gif
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post Apr 13 2012, 09:07 AM

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Where you do you placed the fridge? In a box like cabinet or open area?

Like speaker, if you put it in a box the sound travel further and louder as the sound wave is reflected toward a concentrated direction. Some ppl have it sandwich in between cabinet and the top is cabinet too, so you got the "box-in" fridge/speaker.

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post Apr 13 2012, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Apr 12 2012, 10:13 AM)
Not true. If that is the case all the gas in the fridge in stock will go empty.


Added on April 12, 2012, 10:28 amWe cannot say someone for being clever or idiot trying to save some money.

I have a friend who tried to save some fuel/petrol coming downhill by swtiching off the engine. You know what happened next? The steering locked!!!!! and he crashed !  Whose fault? The car designer/engineer who try to prevent thief without considering the ignorant of driver/common people and without making sure enough warning about auto locking of steering and think all of us will remember the steering will lock itself! And we are talking about live and death. Idiot desiger/engineer, right? Still there are so many cars being stolen every day steering lock or not.
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If your friend just switch it to acc on, steering should not be lock. Unless your friend turn full to off. Sometime people are penny wise and pound foolish.
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post Apr 13 2012, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Apr 13 2012, 09:46 AM)
If your friend just switch it to acc on, steering should not be lock. Unless your friend turn full to off. Sometime people are penny wise and pound foolish.
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Obviously he turned the key full off and the brake also become less effective.

Cant say a person is penny wise pond foolish. Experience matters most. Think back when you first get the license or first drive a car. Your dad's car, frend's car relative's car...did you know the steering would locked with key off? You dont read the manual because not your car and no manual available to you and noone tells you. And old cars dont have these features. Talking about experience, not only just these, there are people who bought cars and dont know the car need to change engine oil, some knows but dont know the grear oil needed to be replavced too and timing belt, etc, etc. And there was one case a women bought a brand new car and drove until petrol ran out, did not know the car need petrol to run and to refiled! she taught it was like a bicycle.

We human are smart and clever and learn. But when we are pure, we are dumb. So I think the danger of auto locking steering to those pure and dumb, not that it never happened, it happened just too many but ppl are embarrass to report. My friend holding high post in Japan. In japan he did not drive as public transport in tokyo is good unlike malaysia. so this was what happened when he came to malaysia having to drive.
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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Apr 13 2012, 10:25 AM)
Obviously he turned the key full off and the brake also become less effective.

Cant say a person is penny wise pond foolish. Experience matters most. Think back when you first get the license or first drive a car. Your dad's car, frend's car relative's car...did you know the steering would locked with key off? You dont read the manual because not your car and no manual available to you and noone tells you. And old cars dont have these features. Talking about experience, not only just these, there are people who bought cars and dont know the car need to change engine oil, some knows but dont know the grear oil needed to be replavced too and timing belt, etc, etc. And there was one case a women bought a brand new car and drove until petrol ran out, did not know the car need petrol to run and to refiled! she taught it was like a bicycle.

We human are smart and clever and learn. But when we are pure, we are dumb. So I think the danger of auto locking steering to those pure and dumb, not that it never happened, it happened just too many but ppl are embarrass to report. My friend holding high post in Japan. In japan he did not drive as public transport in tokyo is good unlike malaysia. so this was what happened when he came to malaysia having to drive.
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ur story nice for sharing in the future maybe someone will ask the same questions all over again. honestly cannot accept ur women car petrol run out story! how can someone think in this way? the car moves effortlessly can think it is a bicycle..... i know this is a true story but for me i cannot stop laughing at this .... doh.gif
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post Apr 13 2012, 01:12 PM

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Turning off the fridge? Penny wise pound foolish.

The health risk of bacteria growth on food/milk etc, additional wear and tear on compressor, is probably not worth the few bucks that you save.

Why are you assuming that you'll save rm30 month doing that? maybe it's just rm15?
If you're leaving it to room temperature, the fridge pushes the compressor to it's maximum power whenever you turn it back on.


Added on April 13, 2012, 1:17 pm
QUOTE(stevie8 @ Apr 13 2012, 10:25 AM)
Obviously he turned the key full off and the brake also become less effective.

Cant say a person is penny wise pond foolish. Experience matters most. Think back when you first get the license or first drive a car. Your dad's car, frend's car relative's car...did you know the steering would locked with key off? You dont read the manual because not your car and no manual available to you and noone tells you. And old cars dont have these features. Talking about experience, not only just these, there are people who bought cars and dont know the car need to change engine oil, some knows but dont know the grear oil needed to be replavced too and timing belt, etc, etc. And there was one case a women bought a brand new car and drove until petrol ran out, did not know the car need petrol to run and to refiled! she taught it was like a bicycle.

We human are smart and clever and learn. But when we are pure, we are dumb. So I think the danger of auto locking steering to those pure and dumb, not that it never happened, it happened just too many but ppl are embarrass to report. My friend holding high post in Japan. In japan he did not drive as public transport in tokyo is good unlike malaysia. so this was what happened when he came to malaysia having to drive.
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It is penny wise pound foolish. He saved maybe RM0.40 worth of fuel and in exchange he got himself in thousands ringgit worth of accident. Even if he didn't get into any accident, he put himself in extra risk of safety (no engine braking, less control, no power steering), extra wear and tear on the alternator, extra wear and tear on the gearbox... all this for 0.40 worth of fuel?




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post Apr 13 2012, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(cwhong @ Apr 13 2012, 12:16 PM)
ur story nice for sharing in the future maybe someone will ask the same questions all over again. honestly cannot accept ur women car petrol run out story! how can someone think in this way? the car moves effortlessly can think it is a bicycle..... i know this is a true story but for me i cannot stop laughing at this ....  doh.gif
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This story came up in one of the newspapers in Malaysia some few years ago. When the car stoped and failed to restart she called the salesman. The salesman came over....the fuel meter E. E for Enough!!! That's why it made the news.

And yet many ppl dont know the car need water for the engine. What? You need to fill water? The car needs water to run??? They thought water is for cleaning the windscreen, never cross their mind it was for the engine cooling.

And many dont know how to fill petrol...until the introduction of self service station, change car tires, set radio stations...the purpose of low beam high beam and mis-use of hazard light during raining is just too common whether experienced or new drivers the same. And worst of all driving slow on the fast lane or drive at the speed limit occupying the fast lane thinking by keeping to the top speed limit allow him/her to use the fast lane. that force the fast cars to overtake from left/slow lane dangerously. Fast lane is for over taking and faster than any car behind you, not for keeping to the speed limit if many of you still dont know! Next time when you travel at road speed limit 110km/hr, move and give way to cars behind you travelling above the speed limit at 120km, 130km/hr. His/her way and rights to over take you fr fast lane and it is his/her choice to be booked by police.


Added on April 13, 2012, 2:44 pm
QUOTE(Drian @ Apr 13 2012, 01:12 PM)
Turning off the fridge? Penny wise pound foolish.

The health risk of bacteria growth on food/milk etc, additional wear and tear on compressor, is probably not worth the few bucks that you save.

Why are you assuming that you'll save rm30 month doing that? maybe it's just rm15?
If you're leaving it to room temperature, the fridge pushes the compressor to it's maximum power whenever you turn it back on.


Added on April 13, 2012, 1:17 pm

It is penny wise pound foolish. He saved maybe RM0.40 worth of fuel and in exchange he got himself in thousands ringgit worth of accident. Even if he didn't get into any accident, he put himself in extra risk of safety (no engine braking, less control, no power steering), extra wear and tear on the alternator, extra wear and tear on the gearbox... all this for 0.40 worth of fuel?
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No one is a fool. It is being not in the know and trend. That is why our fren is asking us in this forum.

Do you know how to fly a plane, for example? Do you know the higher you fly the less the fuel you need and the faster the plane goes? Next time when you are in a plane you know why they want to go so much higher, not that they need time to recover from the fall of the plane but to be faster and save fuel. The air is thinner less friction and less cloud and pilots can see better. But that is not entirely true. Why fly at high altitude as the distant is longer when earth is round? or circle is bigger compared to sea level? And the thinner the air the more the engine has to work harder and uses more fuel. They are still learning... and we are still leaning and one day someone design a new car like an electric car, we may not need this auto steering lock anymore where coming down hill the engine is off and all things still functioning without the engine running.

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