u may try ginkgo ( blackmore ) <= brand
it helps you on brain memory .
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Apr 15 2012, 12:02 AM
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hi all, my sister asked me to try gingko, and i got Blackmore. I really hate the smell and flavour...
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Apr 15 2012, 10:09 AM
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try one with ginkgo...most of the supplements for brain works by improving blood circulation to brain which help improve memory...
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Apr 18 2012, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Apr 6 2012, 04:48 AM) hi guys hey, u may click this link n look into it. My family and I have been taking for 2 years and i strongly recommend this supplement i wanna ask which supplements is good to improve my memory and can make me more focuse when i study or in the class? i dont know why my memory is so suck which is to hard to memorize a simple note and also i cant concentrate when my lectrurer is teaching which at the last make me hard to understand what they're teaching..and as usually i always asking the lecturer when im not understand but i must ask the lecturer at least 5 times to make me understand which it make me look stupid in front of my friends  i heard this product is quite good » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «   . Hope it may suit you too...http://www.facebook.com/pages/Smile-Usana/...pp_138996027389 Then, it is categorised under 'Nutritionals' |
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Apr 18 2012, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Apr 6 2012, 04:48 AM) hi guys caffeine.i wanna ask which supplements is good to improve my memory and can make me more focuse when i study or in the class? i dont know why my memory is so suck which is to hard to memorize a simple note and also i cant concentrate when my lectrurer is teaching which at the last make me hard to understand what they're teaching..and as usually i always asking the lecturer when im not understand but i must ask the lecturer at least 5 times to make me understand which it make me look stupid in front of my friends i heard this product is quite good » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Apr 18 2012, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(micksolo @ Apr 18 2012, 10:28 AM) caffeine. what do u mean by caffeine?  |
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Apr 19 2012, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(faezfahmi618 @ Apr 18 2012, 07:49 PM) what do u mean by caffeine? caffeine improves the sharpness of the mind, making you more alert. Plenty of scientific studies done on it. |
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Jul 22 2012, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE(Tham @ Apr 11 2012, 03:28 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Based on what u wrote, are u a doctor or some healthcare professional? Thanks |
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Jul 23 2012, 11:33 PM
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For a start : 1. Go to your friendly pharmacy and buy this : http://www.livewell2u.com/products.php?p=memosential 2. Add coriander and blueberries to his diet. Lemon balm as well. 3. Extract the blue colour from Clitoria ternatea (the Butterfly pea or bunga telang), and color or dye his rice and porridge with it as often as you can. I'm not sure where you can buy the flowers in bulk, but the Kelantanese Malays should know. I'm a life extensionist. If you wish to ask a doctor, there are a few on this board. The treatment of Alzheimer's is confined to a handful of drugs, if you take your patient to see a doctor : 1. Tacrine, prototype anticholinesterase. Apparently discontinued. 2. Donepezil (Aricept), first generation anticholinesterase. Costs a bomb, some $14 for a 10 mg tab. Blocks acetylcholinesterase. 3. Rivastigmine (Exelon), developed from physostigmine. Blocks both acetylcholinesterase and butyrylcholinesterase. The transdermal patch costs some $20 each, or at least that was what Sunway Medical Center charged my brother and sister when they took him there to see some vaunted geriatrician. It was useless. ( " Oh, your father has Alzheimer's . " was what I heard he exclaimed, on merely observing him, as any Tom, d*** and Harry could have said. Nonsense. If he had bothered to find out my father's stroke background a year or so before that, common sense would have told him that my father has vascular dementia. ) 4. Memantine, NMDA antagonist, also blocks 5HT3 and nicotinic receptors. Probably your drug of choice if you wish to start him on one. Note that it has its limitations. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/...20502184706.htm http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%...al.pone.0035185 Check out this thread if you wish to know more about the countless supplements, herbs and other drugs which can help dementia. http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/23093...imers-research/ As it is, I am unable to help my father as my elder brother, and secondly the nursing home environment, has totally taken things out of my hands. This post has been edited by Tham: Jul 23 2012, 11:41 PM |
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Jul 24 2012, 12:04 AM
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Thanks for the reply bro.
I read that u recommend other supps too. Just wanna know how does jarrow's neuro optimizer compare with memosential? |
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Jul 24 2012, 02:31 AM
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Far better of course. I had tbought that you, like most others here, were not into ordering from health food stores, and just wanted to buy whatever you could find in the local drugstores here. The fact that you know about Jarrow's Neuro Optimizer indicates that you have good knowledge of cutting edge supplements. CDP choline was what I had wanted to get for my father right after his stroke, but was barred from doing so by my elder brother, who thinks that supplements are nonsense, has never heard of life extension, and can't believe that supplements can possibly treat diseases, particularly a highly complex degenerative one like Alzheimer's which even higlhy trained "geriatricians" can't do anything about, let alone extend lifespan. (He's never even heard of homeopathy.) I can't even get a simple low-potency basic multivit across to my father. Memosential is probably the best you can do here if you don't get anything from the States or Europe. Combine it with Co Q10. Go ahead and get him Jarrow's fast. Another highly rated supp for the brain is Alpha GPC, but CDP choline has been given for strokes as a drug in Europe before it became available as a supp in the States. |
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Jul 25 2012, 01:09 PM
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I'll try n get it ASAP then. And I used to take Q10 too and it helped in my running endurance, didn't know it's good for the brain also.
Quite a shame tbh since ur family's being so stubborn on supps This post has been edited by deadmau5: Jul 25 2012, 01:11 PM |
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Jul 26 2012, 03:17 AM
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Coenzyme Q10 Decreases Amyloid Pathology and Improves Behavior in a
Transgenic Mouse Model of Alzheimer’s Disease. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3267988 Coenzyme Q10 in neuromuscular and neurodegenerative disorders. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20017723 Anti-aging Studies on the Senescence Accelerated Mouse (SAM) Strains. " All SAMP lines (from SAMP1 to SAMP11) are characterized by accelerated accumulation of senile features, earlier onset and faster progress of age-associated pathological phenotypes, such as amyloidosis, impaired immune response, senile osteoporosis and deficits in learning and memory. These SAMP lines are useful for evaluation of putative anti-aging therapies. For example, SAMP1 line is used to study the anti-aging effect of the antioxidant containing foods and various anti-oxidants, such as coenzyme Q10, vitamin C, lycopene. SAMP8 line exhibiting an early onset of impaired learning and memory is often used for test strategies for therapeutic intervention of dementia of early onset. " https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/yakush...0_1_11/_article Coenzyme Q10 effects in neurodegenerative disease. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P...f/ndt-5-597.pdf Rational basis for the development of coenzyme Q10 as a neurotherapeutic agent for retinal protection. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18929135 Alzheimer's disease: the pros and cons of pharmaceutical, nutritional, botanical, and stimulatory therapies, with a discussion of treatment strategies from the perspective of patients and practitioners. http://www.altmedrev.com/publications/15/3/223.pdf Non-cholinergic strategies for treating and preventing Alzheimer's disease. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/12421115 Lipoic acid as an anti-inflammatory and neuroprotective treatment for Alzheimer's disease. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18655815 The molecular basis of memantine action in Alzheimer's disease and other neurologic disorders: low-affinity, uncompetitive antagonism. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15974...6409164/related Dementia of Alzheimer's disease and other neurodegenerative disorders -- memantine, a new hope. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15519530 This post has been edited by Tham: Jul 26 2012, 06:10 AM |
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Jul 26 2012, 06:10 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVmghfnOcP0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citicoline Citicoline in vascular cognitive impairment and vascular dementia after stroke. http://stroke.ahajournals.org/content/42/1_suppl_1/S40.long Neuroprotective effects of citidine-5-diphosphocholine on impaired spatial memory in a rat model of cerebrovascular dementia. https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jphs/1...16_11013FP/_pdf Retrospective and observational study to assess the efficacy of citicoline in elderly patients suffering from stupor related to complex geriatric syndrome. " It has been shown that, even soon after an ischemic stroke, administration of oral citicoline (500-4000 mg/day) improves the general conditions evaluated with the Rankin scale and the National Institute of Health Stroke Scale 12. In particular, it has been shown that the CDP-choline improves the cognitive and mental performance in Alzheimer's dementia and vascular dementia. " http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/22654511 Oral administration of circulating precursors for membrane phosphatides can promote the synthesis of new brain synapses. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmid/18631994 Citicoline, use in cognitive decline: vascular and degenerative. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20875651 Citicoline enhances frontal lobe bioenergetics as measured by phosphorus magnetic resonance spectroscopy. " These treatment-related alterations in phosphorus metabolites were not only regionally specific, but tended to be of greater magnitude in subjects who received the lower dose. Citicoline supplementation may therefore help to mitigate cognitive declines associated with aging by increasing energy reserves and utilization, as well as increasing the amount of essential phospholipid membrane components needed to synthesize and maintain cell membranes. " http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18816480 http://www.cognizin.com/article-brain-imaging-study.html " Supplement naturally boosts ageing brain power " http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/02/24/1203788130776.html |
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Jul 27 2012, 11:53 AM
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you can try Memo Plus Gold.. they sell it in pharmacies also and recently a lot of advertisement in newspaper about this..
check out their facebook page here http://www.facebook.com/MemoPlusGoldMalaysia |
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Jul 27 2012, 11:11 PM
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So basically, jarrow's neuro optimizer has about everything that you've listed here right?
And btw, do u know why the doctor prescribed these 3 meds to someone with an irregular ECG rhythm (Xanax 0.5mg, Luvox 50mg, Cordarone 200mg). The doc also mentioned that its nothing to worry about. My grandpa will visit the specialist again this Monday for further check-up. |
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Jul 28 2012, 06:40 AM
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I thought you were familiar with Neuro Optimizer and had checked out
its components ? If you look at the contents carefully, you wil find that CDP choline, or citicholine, phosphatidylserine (PS), acetyl l-carnitine (ALCAR), alpha lipoic acid (ALA), taurine, phosphatidylcholine (PC) and glutamine are there. Memosential contains ALCAR and PS. The one lacking is coenzyme Q-10. You did not say earlier that your father has arrhythmias. I do not know how co Q10 will interact with amiodarone (Cordarone). This is because co Q10 has both positive inotropic (makes the heart beat more forcefully) properties. Anyway, it should be safe to give him a low dose of co Q10. Note that the Q-Gel in the Livewell product is liposome-bound, and 3 times more potent than ordinary co Q10. Thus 15 mg = 45 mg. Try giving him the lowest, 15 mg, say every alternate day for a start. Dharma Singh Khalsa, who runs an Alzheimer's treatment center in Tucson, sent me an info pack some 15 years ago. He uses ALCAR, PS and co Q10, among others. http://www.alzheimersprevention.org/dr_dharma.htm Added on July 28, 2012, 7:31 am Put him on some magnesium, which supports both his heart and Alzheimer's. Good ones are magnesium orotate, taurate or glycinate. http://www.evitamins.com/magnesium-orotate-200mg-kal-895 http://www.iherb.com/Cardiovascular-Resear...-Capsules/23527 http://www.iherb.com/Magnesium-Glycinate-4...ggie-Caps/21315 Note that magnesium interacts with amiloride (Moduretic) and should not be taken if your father is on it. http://mdheal.org/articles/word2/drugsuppl....htm#_ednref111 Magnesium depletion and pathogenesis of Alzheimer's disease. http://www.mgwater.com/dur16.shtml Mechanisms of Action on the Nervous System in Magnesium Deficiency and Dementia. http://www.mgwater.com/dur30.shtml This post has been edited by Tham: Jul 28 2012, 07:31 AM |
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Jul 28 2012, 02:13 PM
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I did, just trying to reconfirm the ingredients again.
He's already taking this Q10 (100mg) http://healthmedica.ca/services/nutritiona...ed-coenzyme-q10 And this too http://marketamerica.com/product-2217/isotonix-opc3.htm Used to take this too http://www.shop.com/Isotonix+reg+Calcium+P...800352-p+.xhtml Also, do u know of any supps that can greatly ease sleeping difficulties? Sometimes, he'll sleep only 4 hours on the 2nd night if he didn't sleep on the 1st night. The xanax & luvox aren't really helping now, he used to take zopiclone last time to sleep but the doc only gave 4 and it's not so good to depend on sleeping pills la. Thanks. This post has been edited by deadmau5: Jul 28 2012, 02:16 PM |
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Jul 29 2012, 03:47 AM
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GHB, the so-called "date rape drug" against Alzheimer's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Hydroxybutyric_acid http://www.life-enhancement.com/article.aspx?ID=76 Sporadic Alzheimer's Disease: The Starving Brain. " A reduction in cerebral glucose utilization is one of the earliest signs of Alzheimer's disease. Although the exact cause of this reduction is not known, gathering evidence suggests that it is part of a complex metabolic adaptation to oxidative stress during which glycolysis and oxidative phosphorylation are turned down, glucose metabolism is shifted to the pentose phosphate pathway to generate antioxidant reducing factors such as nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide phosphate (NADPH) and glutathione, and the gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) shunt is activated to provide glutamate as an alternate source of energy. In the face of these adaptive metabolic changes, the Alzheimer brain runs short of energy and begins to digest itself. Evidence is presented that gammahydroxybutyrate, a natural product of the GABA shunt, can provide the necessary energy, carbon, and antioxidant power and that its use may be able to delay the onset and progress of Alzheimer's disease. " http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22571985 Alzheimer' s disease, oxidative stress and gammahydroxybutyrate. http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/1683710 Neurodegeneration, sleep, and cerebral energy metabolism: a testable hypothesis. http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/9100156 This post has been edited by Tham: Jul 29 2012, 04:56 AM |
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Jul 29 2012, 04:57 AM
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Melatonin comes immediately to mind. Some of these sleep formulas has melatonin, magnestium, L-theanine and lemon balm, all ol which help Alzheimer's. http://www.iherb.com/Search?kw=MELATONIN+M...ALERIAN&x=0&y=0 This looks good. http://www.iherb.com/Irwin-Naturals-Power-...-Soft-Gels/8068 |
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