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post Apr 25 2012, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(izso @ Apr 25 2012, 07:24 AM)
You got some heavy duty gear. Love that amp btw! Do something about the HU tho  brows.gif

As for sub, what sort of music do you listen to? There's a few subs out there that you can look out for. Not all JLs are boom boom boom, they are pretty quick subs so properly tuned you can get pretty good bass, I particularly like the W6v2 and used to own a W3v2. Both did great with the infamous Pirates of the Caribbean #1 theme song which will show how fast/slow your sub is. At that time the W6v2 was powered by a TRU Hammer (not my setup) and my W3v2 was fed with a Orion HCCA G4. Might be worth mentioning that both amps are Class AB though. I personally feel class AB works better than Class D even for monoblocks. Personal opinion.

The other SQ subs that people swear by are Scanspeaks, Seas lotus and Morel but personally I find them too soft for my liking. Perhaps it's the way they were setup but none did too well in my ears with my kind of music but to be fair I don't think these SQ subs were designed for electronic bass music.  rolleyes.gif

Suggest you test these subs yourself before you settle for one. Right now I'm using a Boston G5 with a JL1000/1 and I'm quite happy with it. But my meat might be your poison so can't really advise.
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could you please provide a full review for the boston G5? better if you can compare/review side by side with the JL Audio W6 or W3 biggrin.gif

very interested since i am using a boston sub too and i really like em XD
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post Apr 25 2012, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(hans18 @ Apr 25 2012, 01:58 PM)
guys,
i shortlist boston g5 - rm dont know, peerless xxls- rm900, morel primo 124 - rm1050.
what do u all suggest..
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not sure if they still produce G5... i've never seen it even back in the days.
i am using their entry level G1 http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=34048347

refer boston acoustics official site: http://www.bostonacoustics.com/Subwoofers-C247.aspx
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post Apr 25 2012, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(izso @ Apr 25 2012, 08:50 PM)
It's slower compared to the W6. But boy will it go low and loud. That's plenty for my Prince, Anjunabeats, Avincii and super ahbeng Initial-D CDs. My biggest issue is getting it to sound right. The JL 1000/1 has got so many functions, knobs and buttons I dunno what does what. I mean what's infrasonic?? Then there's like 2 separate gains for one channel and this amp has two outputs wtf. It's a monoblock for crying out loud. Anyway, I'm liking the G5 but I prefer the W6 but since the price is almost 800 different, I'll stick with the G5.

Don't compare with the W3 though. In terms of tone, clarity and all the W3 is actually better but in terms of speed and sheer volume W3 is no fight. I like hard heart stopping bass!
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thanks for the response bro.

as you said, speed is among an important criteria i seek in my bass, and seems like Boston acoustics got that down.
surprisingly despite being an entry level G1 my subwoofer seemingly outperforms many (even in the mid range models, at least from what i've audited before anyways) when it comes to getting that PRAT and LFE accurately.

anyways you mentioned G5, is that an old model that boston no longer produces? dont think i've ever come across that much less their official site.
how does it compare to their reference class sub woofer or their regular line up G2/3 (i got the G1 anyways so we can just skip that)
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post Apr 26 2012, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(izso @ Apr 26 2012, 08:44 PM)
I dunno how to compare with those other Bostons since I've never heard them. Mind you - it's fast but still audibly slower than the W6.
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wouldnt the W6 be an overall winner then?
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post Apr 29 2012, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Apr 29 2012, 04:09 PM)
I'm getting an Inspira soon. Have anyone of you heard the stock speakers? It's quite decent already. Thinking of adding two 8inch subs plus a box in the boot and an amp. I don't blast my speakers, just above average volume.

Wanna change the HU to a double din touch screen too. Budget limited to Rm2.8k for now. Any advice?
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just, no.
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post Apr 30 2012, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Apr 29 2012, 06:05 PM)
So? Go for 10" instead? Won't it be overpowered due to the fact that I'm not changing the original speakers?
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one 10" or 12", bad tuning is what cause overpowering, not the speakers/subwoofer
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post Apr 30 2012, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(craziechild @ Apr 30 2012, 12:55 AM)
2 x 8" = 1 x 10"... well experience wise...

but why waste the usable boot space, money and wires? right?
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not to mention 8" or 10" very hard to hit the low frequencies/LFE's as a 12" would biggrin.gif
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post Apr 30 2012, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Apr 30 2012, 01:59 AM)
How much would 12" cost? Which amp is suitable?
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a good reputable brand sub cost between 300-400+ at least for an entry level not including enclosure box/installation/wiring
a good reputable brand amp cost starting around 1k +/-
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post Apr 30 2012, 02:12 AM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Apr 30 2012, 02:09 AM)
Can you give a suggestion of a sub and an amp pairing? Is it okay if I pair with stock speaker first, the only upgrade in the future?
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hard to give suggestion considering how vast the ICE world can be in brands and what not. unlike headphones where you have jaben to audit wink.gif
that said, time to time there are TT sessions which you could join to find out what brands' sound signature is up to your preference.

and yes if you go for a 4channel amp, you can even use it to power your current stock speakers, then in the future could upgrade the stock speakers to decent component set and have the amp power those instead.
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post Apr 30 2012, 03:30 AM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Apr 30 2012, 02:57 AM)
I see, so it's better to go for a good 4channel amp now? Would Rm2.2k be enough for a good 4channel amp and a 12" woofer?
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yeah thats about fitting what i have mentioned smile.gif
4 channel amps just makes it easier to settle for an entry complete setup -> 2 channel component 2 channel sub, and you're done smile.gif
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post Apr 30 2012, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(izso @ Apr 30 2012, 10:57 AM)
Yeah. And never audit someone elses car.  whistling.gif
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haha i guess it really depends on the individual. i've survived with my simple complete entry level setup since 2008/early 2009 mind you wink.gif

and yeah i have audited most of the powerhouses/pro/sifu level in LYN brows.gif
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post Apr 30 2012, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Apr 30 2012, 11:50 AM)
How much is the total cost for your car's ICE? smile.gif
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just under 4k. proper ICE is waaaaaay more expensive than a full headphone setup.

case in point, i only spent 1.5k+ for a mid range audio technica headphone + amp (you could probably argue i didn't buy a DAC, but seriously, a standard sound card + ASIO software DAC is muuuuuch better than anything under a centrance level DAC and that cost 1k+)

while i spent yeah, 4k for an entry level ICE setup.
to scale it up, refer home theater/home hi-fi, much more expensive than ICE smile.gif
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post Apr 30 2012, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Apr 30 2012, 12:27 PM)
Wowww, RM4k for just an ENTRY level?  shocking.gif

But it does sound good already right? What did you buy in that 4k btw?
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think of this thread a journal of my ICE of sort, heh:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1157391

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HU: Alpine CDE-100EUB CD player
speaker comp set: Boston Acoustics S60

total around RM1200+

so guys, i just completed my ICE today totalling ~2.2k+ for just 4 channel amp and subwoofer

gotten myself a Boston GT-40 for amp and Boston G1 12" for the subwoofer


then lastly sound proofing door panels around rm500+
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post Apr 30 2012, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(izso @ Apr 30 2012, 04:09 PM)
4k not entry level la. Quazacolt wanna tipu you into spending more money!  whistling.gif

*Cabut*
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rephrase it to complete entry level boleh?
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post Apr 30 2012, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(carcrazy @ Apr 30 2012, 04:55 PM)
RM4K - entry level (high-end category)
hehe...
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entry and high end these 2 words where can sit beside each others LOL
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QUOTE(krayden @ Apr 30 2012, 07:19 PM)
How bout low tier highend?
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those 5 digit setups right? laugh.gif
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post Apr 30 2012, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(krayden @ Apr 30 2012, 07:48 PM)
7 digits and one decimal.
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the decimal placing where? laugh.gif
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post Apr 30 2012, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(izso @ Apr 30 2012, 08:49 PM)
LOL!

Aiya.. don care how much, a system that produces music that sounds good to you is a good system.
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agreed XD
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post Apr 30 2012, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(asura_86 @ Apr 30 2012, 11:03 PM)
Hi, need some advise on some basic ICE mod

- Your ride: Vios 08
- Prefer SQ/SPL/SQL: high clarity with tight bass (not into those techno/hip-hop kind of bass)
- File format/medium used in your source: mp3 and CDs
- Genre of music you listen to: metal, modern rock, pop
- Setup type preferences: any set-up that doesn't need a woofer, or to add an additional pair of tweeters (my car is the standard 4-speaker set-up)
- Other requirements (if any): prefer not to add woofer in the boot, don't mind changing stock speaker to other brands/type or to add in an amp

my budget is roughly around RM2.5k max, my current HU is kenwood KDC-U449.
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you can try adding on a component set and a nice 4 channel amp (in case you change your mind on a subwoofer wink.gif )
2.5k should be more than enough.

alternatively you could also try changing HU + comp set, save up more then go for an amp to drive the component set (and using its left over available channels for your stock 2x speakers)

at least an amp would be required to drive most component sets' bass reproduction, HU alone just does not have enough power, much less a *somewhat* lesser kenwood (not your typical alpine/pioneer and even them couldn't possibly provide enough juice for most 6.5 midbass tongue.gif )
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post May 1 2012, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(asura_86 @ May 1 2012, 12:14 AM)
does it mean getting a pair of tweeters and an amp, hooking it up to my current stock speakers will improve the sound?

btw, how do i choose my speakers then? since i won't be putting in a woofer, is there any specific type of speakers that can reproduce the tight bass that i'm looking for? (like those metal bass drum, solid and tight sounding?)
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you get a 2 way component set, that consist of a pair of tweeters + 6.5" mid/midbass + crossover unit

if the bass is not enough for you, consider an actual subwoofer. you may opt to get a small enclosure/sized sub.

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