For 1K you probably could get away with clearer sound, but you won't get any bass for your clubbing songs. Come come TT and let me poison you. Hehehe

I'm only free fri/sat nights. Or nights before a public hol. And usually free only after 9:30pm. Heh. When you wanna meetup?

This post has been edited by izso: Feb 19 2013, 07:06 AM

Clarity yes.. but the bass thing is a little exaggerated la. It'll be loads better than stock. But it's nothing compared to a standalone sub.

Hi bro, if I were you I'd consider going to a reputable installer and let them sort out your ICE for you. If you don't want to do that then you'll need to learn about component speakers, ohm, RMS power, 'sharp/bright/muddy' terminology, matching different HUs with amps and speakers, it's awesome. Anyway it's not hard. Just need to resist the temptation to buy on impulse.

Installers that I know that are highly recommended are howiechoo from EA Autoworks Bukit Jalil and Peter Chong from CV Audio Uptown Damansara. Give them your money and they'll do wonders with your ICE setup without being overly lansi... Howie banyak lansi one.

A component set consists of a tweeter pair, midbass pair and a pair of crossovers.

And yes la, underseat woofer will do better than those coaxials in terms of bass.

Howie I think what you need now is a high-def sound recorder... like the one I have! XD

Below 5k? Wah.. even 4k is reasonable? If so you have a very healthy budget. Shouldn't be a problem to get HU, woofer, component speakers and amp. Now all you need is to find a trustworthy installer.

If Bukit Jalil - EA Autoworks - Howiechoo. PM him and he'll set you up with the right equipment (all new)
If PJ / Damansara - CV Audio Uptown Damansara - Peter Chong. Go to his shop, tell him what you want and he'll set you up nicely (all new)

If you're looking to DIY and buy 2nd hand stuff, that'll take a lot longer to do but there's a lot you can do with 4k 2nd hand!

wait laaaa... It's with my friend at the moment. I will bring the next time I go ur place

Wow.. a willing victim to the big time anaconda poisoners.

1. This is debatable. Some say (I do) that different amps have different characteristics and sound, whilst some will challenge you with USD10,000 to compare two amps side by side with the same power and output and see if you're able to identify which is which.

Then there's the different types of amps. Class D being the most efficient (and personally I find these the most 'blunt' sounding), Class AB (my favorite), Class A etc.. each with their own characteristics.

2. Most amps overrate their power claims. There's only a handful of brands out there that underrate their power. The old Orion HCCA for example were severely underrated. Gila powerful amps. Then there's TRU and Helix A-series amps, all underrated (cuz measured at 12V). Mainstream brands measure their amps at 14.4V and rarely do you get a constant 14.4V in your car so you rarely ever hit the max measured powered for those amps. And then there's the sound. I've done a comparison side by side with exactly the same gear (table top tester, not in car) with just the amps being compared. An a/d/s/ vs the Helix A2. The A2 won hands down in terms of clarity and for some reason more instruments were 'visible' and the highs were more pronounced. That's not saying a/d/s/ is no good, just that compared side by side in the exact conditions, the much more expensive Helix A2 was better.

But you will occassionally come across a gem of a 'normal' brand that'll perform as good as (if not better) the premium branded amps.

no not ok! especially if price is high

don't be listening to every tom d*** and harry on how to tune your system. Your mids you should know them best. Not all mids are cut off at the same points and whats more you haven't taken into consideration slope.

Anyhow, depending on your mids, you should tune it based on its capabilities not based on what others say.

If your car is new get it warrantied. If it's not your HU is going to die soon. If you have a budget, go look for a reputable accessory shop and get it done up there. Easiest. Recommendations are EA Autoworks Bukit Jalil and CV Audio Uptown Damansara for me.

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I don't think I want the processor yet. I need to change my player first. left right sound is lobsided laaaaaaaaaaaa..

Get any of the new Alpines la. All Ipod compatible and no need scrolling nonsense.

9857 is in the same era as the 9855 and that bunch of players all had scrolling "problems". They've upgraded the interface with the new Alpines and the connectivity to Ipods is faster than ever so it makes navigating easier

Wow.. that's a pretty comfortable budget. A good 100W RMS output amp and a set of dynaudio (2nd hand) speakers would fit your budget nicely. Probably can squeeze in a 2nd hand sub. JL W0 perhaps.

The difference in how a $800 setup sounds vs a $3000 sounds is how well the tuner tunes the setup. If the RM3000 tuner is good, it'll beat the socks off the RM800 setup regardless of how well it's tuned.


Speaker wires, RCAs and even power cables is a subjective topic. Some say changing to different ones will have a difference some say not. But the obvious difference is comparing the cheapass RM15 RCA with a RM350 RCA. You'll definitely hear a difference assuming you don't have any hearing problems. Same goes for the speaker cables. Try comparing a RM400 cable with a RM600 cable - that's when it becomes subjective. Personally I love the Phoenix Gold Zero RCA and the thickass VanDenHul speaker cables both with silver tip paste on it and silver soldered connectors. But that's just bloody extreme and bloody expensive to justify the sound.

How good a power cable is does make a difference. A properly powered up setup will perform better than one that has fluctuating or poorly grounded/powered setup.

2 pre-amps? Take out the pre-amps la. One is already too much, you go and install 2? Remove both and tune from your Alpine and amplifiers. But if you're using the passive crossovers then there's nothing much to tune except your amp gain. Make sure your speakers are all in the proper phase too, off-phase will sound damn weird to some people.

That's a pretty healthy budget. Go talk to a couple of installers like EA Autoworks (Howie) or CV Audio (Peter) and see who you like. Then just trust them to make your ICE sound better based on your budget. You can't go wrong with these two fellas.

A well setup 2-way will sound fantastic already. But a well setup 3-way will sound better. Having said that a 3-way setup will cost MUCH MORE and will be damn hard to tune too. So good luck.