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 DOTA2 V4, Open Beta soon?

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post Apr 1 2012, 10:12 PM

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if game lagging?how to leave?lagging cant even move?
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post Apr 1 2012, 11:08 PM

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post Apr 1 2012, 11:30 PM

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Dota = Best mmorpg by Blizzard

Dota 2 = Blizzard Games

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post Apr 1 2012, 11:36 PM

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Ah... Sorry @tarvalslain87. Lose dy just now >< Sniper buy forcestaff... O.o and I feed ==
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post Apr 1 2012, 11:37 PM

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use it temporary only...shadowblade a little too exp during mid game...not that bad to use it isn't it?=_="

if you dun know...i'm that sniper...=D

that game you guys also said...hard to win...if that force staff wasn't bought you think that game could be won?=D

This post has been edited by LostWanderer: Apr 1 2012, 11:39 PM
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post Apr 1 2012, 11:41 PM

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bone picked by dts against clg and getting ultrakill. rclxms.gif
so happy seeing unorthodox picks working out.
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post Apr 1 2012, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(ZeratoS @ Apr 1 2012, 10:02 PM)
Wrong on all counts.

Conceding just encourages bad attitudes during games because players will give up early. Prime example is a game I played yesterday where my team was trailing at a loss of 10 kills. We won with a huge comeback. If you have conceding, people would've conceded at the 15 min mark.

This whole concept of giving up just encourages the already stupid attitudes that three quarters of south-east asians have. In Europe, players have good sportsmanship and they fight it out to the end (and steal victories too).

DotA2's penalty system is so much better than HoN's. Leave a game and you get chucked into low priority for the next 24 hours. Get reported enough and its good bye to your account (who will risk their main steam account?)
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so your saying when the majority in the team after say 15 min mark has given up and want to conceed but can't (shouldn't) according to you ?

Why on earth not ? How is that considered stupid, knowing when your beat and want to move on to the next game group as the game has already been lost, maybe because of feeding or whatever.

if they've voted to conceed as a group why not let them? instead your selfishly forcing them to stay on, to complete a game that may have already been lost way too early. I totally don't agree with that :/

HON too has a system that flags you as a leaver if the % of leaving game during match reaches a certain point. Players who want to join a game, can then set it to avoid playing with people flagged as leavers.

There is also a system in place to try even group pairings so people of equal stats/points are paired against each other. it's not perfect but it's a good attempt to make a more even match.


you also mentioned i'm wrong on all points how so ? Hon does have alt char designs, and they do have a F2P system (you can optionally pay real money to get things faster, otherwise you can just play to earn points to buy chars which may take long but is possible and is free to do so...). So the one spreading false info is you since your statement regarding these 2 points was wrong doh.gif

I'm not too familiar with the hon reporting system, so not much to comment on that (but from i understand, you need to be verified to be able to use it)

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Apr 1 2012, 11:48 PM
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post Apr 1 2012, 11:47 PM

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post Apr 1 2012, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Apr 1 2012, 11:41 PM)
bone picked by dts against clg and getting ultrakill.  rclxms.gif
so happy seeing unorthodox picks working out.
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bone is a normal pick back in dota 1. Yesterday I marshall for Gamefest qualifier DOTA, bone solo mid and got hex at 20min. Been played as semi carry.
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post Apr 1 2012, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Apr 1 2012, 11:08 PM)
Either this fella is trolling or a natural born genius
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post Apr 1 2012, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(nemesis94 @ Apr 1 2012, 11:47 PM)
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i like urs beastmaster style ^^
so scary >_>" make until lina wanna ulti you even you only left 50hp haha
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QUOTE(kokweng1 @ Apr 1 2012, 11:50 PM)
i like urs beastmaster style ^^
so scary >_>" make until lina wanna ulti you even you only left 50hp haha
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post Apr 1 2012, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Apr 1 2012, 11:37 PM)
use it temporary only...shadowblade a little too exp during mid game...not that bad to use it isn't it?=_="

if you dun know...i'm that sniper...=D

that game you guys also said...hard to win...if that force staff wasn't bought you think that game could be won?=D
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No la. Because sniper really doesnt need forcestaff also. Btw u shud directly farm shadow blade and get somd dmg items. In this situation, you buy force also no use because gt morph and qop. And by mid game they gt ward right? But still thinking get shadow b better and deso.

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QUOTE(sanderz @ Apr 1 2012, 11:36 PM)
Ah... Sorry @tarvalslain87. Lose dy just now >< Sniper buy forcestaff... O.o and I feed ==
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Lol no need say sorry and all.... Its just a game...


QUOTE(LostWanderer @ Apr 1 2012, 11:37 PM)
use it temporary only...shadowblade a little too exp during mid game...not that bad to use it isn't it?=_="

if you dun know...i'm that sniper...=D

that game you guys also said...hard to win...if that force staff wasn't bought you think that game could be won?=D
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Its a waste of gold to buy force staff for sniper... Normal sniper will go manta first or sny to gain more health and more damage... Then go on to make helm of dom, bkb then butter etc...
If you buy dae/buriza ur survivability is so so low... No escape mechanism and no hp = food. Just let you know the next time you play sniper. Since you only played sniper for all the games in dota 2.

If a sniper is fat enough with correct items, you can easily win the game just now with teammate healing and supporting u.... Im still learning dota 2 as the UI is so different from dota.

Hope we can learn together...
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post Apr 2 2012, 12:00 AM

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Sniper need that manta up fast. Some people even prefer phase boot+mask of madness.

He need a lot of teammate to support him and he need few core item to do so serious damage. You can go all out on damage with sniper if your teammate can keep them busy during war or just a bkb to avoid getting disabled.

Until now, I never see any good sniper players. There is once they say sniper is just a half hero early to mid game. You need a lot ward to prevent getting ganked. Lothar aka shadow blade is not so recommended because of it's cost and too easy to counter if you are against some average/good players. 180 gold and your item = useless, at most you could get away for 1-2times, rest if they do it correctly then gg.

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post Apr 2 2012, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(sasaug @ Apr 1 2012, 11:50 PM)
bone is a normal pick back in dota 1. Yesterday I marshall for Gamefest qualifier DOTA, bone solo mid and got hex at 20min. Been played as semi carry.
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DTS won! rclxm9.gif
1 ultra kill+1 rampage, very entertaining game.

Its worth noting that playing on radiant, you ought to push top as the creep camp for pact is closer there, while on playing on dire side, the creep with 1.1k hp is closer to the mid lane.


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post Apr 2 2012, 12:02 AM

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there we go again hon vs dota2 =x
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post Apr 2 2012, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Apr 1 2012, 11:42 PM)
so your saying when the majority in the team after say 15 min mark has given up and want to conceed but can't (shouldn't) according to you ?

Why on earth not ?  How is that considered stupid, knowing when your beat and want to move on to the next game group as the game has already been lost, maybe because of feeding or whatever.

if they've voted to conceed as a group why not let them? instead your selfishly forcing them to stay on, to complete a game that may have already been lost way too early. I totally don't agree with that :/

HON too has a system that flags you as a leaver if the % of leaving game during match reaches a certain point. Players who want to join a game, can then set it to avoid playing with people flagged as leavers.

There is also a system in place to try even group pairings so people of equal stats/points are paired against each other. it's not perfect but it's a good attempt to make a more even match.
you also mentioned i'm wrong on all points how so ? Hon does have alt char designs, and they do have a F2P system (you can optionally pay real money to get things faster, otherwise you can just play to earn points to buy chars which may take long but is possible and is free to do so...). So the one spreading false info is you since your statement regarding these 2 points was wrong doh.gif

I'm not too familiar with the hon reporting system, so not much to comment on that (but from i understand, you need to be verified to be able to use it)
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The system itself is fine but it has the added effects of encouraging people to give up. Because this is not present in DotA2, people actually fight instead of give up. The problem lies with having the option to concede be available for use. Do you honestly want to enjoy one good game or play 20 games of 15 minute concedes as an organized (and winning) team? Ask yourself that.

I'm in favour of DotA2's means of tackling leavers (having had experience in HoN since its closed beta) as you can see from the current state of SEA HoN where players have no incentive to actually take care of their accounts.

DotA2 also has a hidden ELO/MMR/PSR as far as I know (it was mentioned in the v1 or v2 thread I believe) so its roughly equal to HoN. Their F2P system is also stupid as hell because it does nothing for the benefit of the game (lets be honest, grinding for coins to unlock heroes was terrible) and it encouraged S2 to release stupidly broken heroes like Emerald Warden so people would fork out moolah for it. The contrast here is HoN's microtransactions are purely aesthetic. Huge + in my book.

I've had a sufficient amount of experience at relatively med-high tier play in all 3 games (LoL, DotA2, HoN) and I can say that DotA2 is by far the least problematic when it comes to generic pubs. But then again, time will tell.

P.S: And unlike the other two games, Valve actually DOES stuff. Fat chance ga*rena actually does anything for you people.

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post Apr 2 2012, 12:07 AM

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alrite...thanks...noted of the survival build...=D

yea, i notice lothar is sooo much exp comparing to force staff...so i used it until i could change the item...XD

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post Apr 2 2012, 12:12 AM

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the fun of playing dota is about how best ur teamwork i have play countless of game where u can said our team wont win but we managed to pull out and win the game?
imagine if this shity conceed go on u wont find a good game at all
enemy team mega kill omg omg we cant wiin conceed conceed now?
please dont put it here dota is the same without those conceed thing and still become the best game ever then those copier

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