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PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V21, GASAK KUASAAAAA
PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V21, GASAK KUASAAAAA
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Apr 6 2012, 10:02 PM
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Apr 6 2012, 10:04 PM
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Apr 6 2012, 10:06 PM
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Apr 6 2012, 10:22 PM
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sent to hospital, duno when can come out =(
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Apr 6 2012, 10:25 PM
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@davidke20 :
A simple summary...to cut a LONG story short is to juz quote yu : "In the end we made the choice..." And I do love my Plotong... |
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Apr 6 2012, 10:27 PM
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Apr 6 2012, 10:31 PM
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call insurance, they say send to authorised workshop, or send back to factory service centre....
then call proton i-care, they say send to CoSE, they fix inhouse, change new. Send to other service centre, they sub out to other workshop, maybe ketuk ketuk or so only. so send to CoSE, they claim my insurance, own damage. motor insurance cant cover. so wait for insurance adjuster to go and estimate... car-less for now... duno can get company car temporarily or not. |
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Apr 6 2012, 10:32 PM
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Apr 6 2012, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 6 2012, 08:15 PM) Can't comment on that yet, still bery new to me. 1 thing for sure, the sucky DBW that helps to smoothen acceleration/release pedal, actually is meant for full ECU driven linkage to ABS,traction control,auto brake during cruise controlled. The amount of throttle response will be calculated properly so your car will be running efficiently with all the road safety assistance. bro, from the way u drive & explain, i think u can be plotong test driver FYI, when you try to avoid object & your rear wheel skidded, 3Â scenario could happen: 1) Hit the brake: your front wheel also skid together, your whole car buang 2) Pull side brake(hand brake), your car spin like gasing DBW slow response actually help to maintain your wheel rpm, so you gain control from the front wheel. To conclude, actually the DBW is a big leap of Plotong, u can see why the new Plotong Perve have all those safety features such as traction control/abs/anti skid/cruise control. sure they can improve, but on management side different story la This post has been edited by huzaifa136: Apr 6 2012, 10:38 PM |
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Apr 6 2012, 10:38 PM
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Apr 6 2012, 10:39 PM
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Apr 6 2012, 10:44 PM
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Apr 6 2012, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(Jackalv2 @ Apr 6 2012, 10:02 PM) QUOTE(Jackalv2 @ Apr 6 2012, 10:04 PM) Poor SAGA. Which insurance company are yours? Few things to keep in mind:1) DO NOT let tow truck send your car to their workshop 2) DO NOT let other people advice you to their own workshop 3) There are NO extra payment on any circumstances for the workshop to replace ALL ORIGINAL PRODUCT since your car is less than a year old( in insurance there is a clause call BETTERMENT, applied on all 3 years and above vehicle, when they need to claim original product, they'll be charged certain percentage on top of the agreed claim value, unless customer agreed to use 2nd hand parts/OEM product) 4) Lodge a police report. Since you're a victim, yes you heard me right. You're always the victim if you hit by motorcycle. Pay summons RM300 and claim your own insurance(unless you're 55% NCD already & your repair cost actually less than RM2000). I believe such a new car, you will not consider to change used part isn't it? However, if you're lucky enough PDRM issue the summon to the motorcyclist, then your NCD is safe. 5) Please take a few photos of your car before you send in for repair, especially chassis number, engine number. Make sure you test your CD player infront of the person in charge. You'll be surprise how many people sent their car for an accident claim, ended up came back with a faulty CD player/different engine block and many more crazy things. 6) During reparation, you may claim "Loss of use". Which is when you do not have a car to drive to work, you can take a cab/rent a car or whatever. Please consult your insurance agent on that. If your insurance agent tell you no such thing, tell him you'll report this to PIAM, he'll buy you a carton of Black Label just to shut you up. Finally, if you're not satisfied with the result after reparation, you can decline the acceptance letter, but then you can not continue claim the loss of use. You can demand workshop to redo until you're satisfying. If they deny you, tell them you will go to the insurance company and report to the claims department personally, that should get them work harder to restore your car. If that doesn't help, use PIAM as all panel workshop are registered with PIAM(Perbadanan Insuran Am Malaysia), they wouldn't want to leave any audit issue with PIAM. If all that doesn't work, you should report to PIAM. Good luck and wish your SAGA get well soon |
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Apr 6 2012, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 6 2012, 10:44 PM) Poor SAGA. Which insurance company are yours? Few things to keep in mind: 1) DO NOT let tow truck send your car to their workshop car still can move, i send myself 2) DO NOT let other people advice you to their own workshop same as above, i sent it back to the CoSE, beside KESAS 3) There are NO extra payment on any circumstances for the workshop to replace ALL ORIGINAL PRODUCT since your car is less than a year old( in insurance there is a clause call BETTERMENT, applied on all 3 years and above vehicle, when they need to claim original product, they'll be charged certain percentage on top of the agreed claim value, unless customer agreed to use 2nd hand parts/OEM product) am aware of this 4) Lodge a police report. Since you're a victim, yes you heard me right. You're always the victim if you hit by motorcycle. Pay summons RM300 and claim your own insurance(unless you're 55% NCD already & your repair cost actually less than RM2000). I believe such a new car, you will not consider to change used part isn't it? However, if you're lucky enough PDRM issue the summon to the motorcyclist, then your NCD is safe. reported, police did not summon me. send to proton, the person that attended me say will process the claim for me, got his name and contact number etc, for follow up purpose. the guy assured me that will change new door, window (but no more tint, need to redo) 5) Please take a few photos of your car before you send in for repair, especially chassis number, engine number. Make sure you test your CD player infront of the person in charge. You'll be surprise how many people sent their car for an accident claim, ended up came back with a faulty CD player/different engine block and many more crazy things. photo = done... chassis number i tally with the car cover note, when collect car, need to double check then. the radio/usb/cd player, i didnt check, but then it was working when i sent there, on the way there, i was listening to the radio still, but no proof.. =( 6) During reparation, you may claim "Loss of use". Which is when you do not have a car to drive to work, you can take a cab/rent a car or whatever. Please consult your insurance agent on that. If your insurance agent tell you no such thing, tell him you'll report this to PIAM, he'll buy you a carton of Black Label just to shut you up. one of my colleagues did say this, but im not too sure, will check with the insurance company at the meantime, already informed my manager about this, he will check whether can allocate a company car for me or not.... Finally, if you're not satisfied with the result after reparation, you can decline the acceptance letter, but then you can not continue claim the loss of use. You can demand workshop to redo until you're satisfying. If they deny you, tell them you will go to the insurance company and report to the claims department personally, that should get them work harder to restore your car. If that doesn't help, use PIAM as all panel workshop are registered with PIAM(Perbadanan Insuran Am Malaysia), they wouldn't want to leave any audit issue with PIAM. If all that doesn't work, you should report to PIAM. noted, thanks for the info Good luck and wish your SAGA get well soon |
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Apr 6 2012, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(Jackalv2 @ Apr 6 2012, 10:38 PM) NCD=No claim discountClick here at Official ISM NCD enquiry to find out where you stand If 1st year you buy a car under your own name, you're 0 NCD 2nd year 25% discount on insurance premium(not include windscreen and other extra peril) 3rd year 30% discount 4th year 38.33% discount 5th year 45% discount 6th year 55% discount(maximum) If you involved in an accident, normally insurance company will uphold your NCD until the investigation close. If summon were issued to you, your NCD will be discard. Next year insurance renewal you'll be back to 0% and takes another 5 years to accumulate. However, if summon were issued to 3rd party(the other person involved in your same accident), then your NCD is safe and you can continue using the discount next year). If you're current NCD is already 55%, and on a spanking new car, your yearly premium is up to RM2000... if you lose your 55% discount, the following 6 years you'll probably paid up to 5k extra on insurance premium This post has been edited by davidke20: Apr 6 2012, 11:00 PM |
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Apr 6 2012, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 6 2012, 10:56 PM) NCD=No claim discount in layman terms, the longer your insurance is not claimed, the more discount you get on the yearly premium, right?Click here at Official ISM NCD enquiry to find out where you stand If 1st year you buy a car under your own name, you're 0 NCD 2nd year 25% discount on insurance premium(not include windscreen and other extra peril) 3rd year 30% discount 4th year 38.33% discount 5th year 45% discount 6th year 55% discount(maximum) If you involved in an accident, normally insurance company will uphold your NCD until the investigation close. If summon were issued to you, your NCD will be discard. Next year insurance renewal you'll be back to 0% and takes another 5 years to accumulate. However, if summon were issued to 3rd party(the other person involved in your same accident), then your NCD is safe and you can continue using the discount next year). If you're current NCD is already 55%, and on a spanking new car, your yearly premium is up to RM2000... if you lose your 55% discount, the following 6 years you'll probably paid up to 5k extra on insurance premium current = 0% next = 25% meaning i claim now...... say, insurance claim approved on 18 april..... insurance is up to 23/2/2013... meaning the next year, i still pay full premium (cuz havent reach 18 april, full year since the last claim date)... the following year only enjoy 25% discount la, right? |
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Apr 6 2012, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(Jackalv2 @ Apr 6 2012, 11:05 PM) in layman terms, the longer your insurance is not claimed, the more discount you get on the yearly premium, right? But you were not summoned ma, irrelevant right?current = 0% next = 25% meaning i claim now...... say, insurance claim approved on 18 april..... insurance is up to 23/2/2013... meaning the next year, i still pay full premium (cuz havent reach 18 april, full year since the last claim date)... the following year only enjoy 25% discount la, right? |
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Apr 6 2012, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 6 2012, 11:10 PM) Your NCD will be forfeited when you make an Own Damage claim.sos: http://malaysia.kurnia.com/Insurance/HowTo/Default.aspx This post has been edited by Jackalv2: Apr 6 2012, 11:14 PM |
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Apr 6 2012, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(Jackalv2 @ Apr 6 2012, 11:05 PM) in layman terms, the longer your insurance is not claimed, the more discount you get on the yearly premium, right? Cleber boy. You'll have to wait until case close only know when is your new date for the NCDcurrent = 0% next = 25% meaning i claim now...... say, insurance claim approved on 18 april..... insurance is up to 23/2/2013... meaning the next year, i still pay full premium (cuz havent reach 18 april, full year since the last claim date)... the following year only enjoy 25% discount la, right? QUOTE(dares @ Apr 6 2012, 11:10 PM) He's claiming his own insurance under "OWN DAMAGE" clause because PDRM also didn't summon the bike |
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Apr 6 2012, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(Jackalv2 @ Apr 6 2012, 11:13 PM) Your NCD will be forfeited when you make an Own Damage claim. sos: http://malaysia.kurnia.com/Insurance/HowTo/Default.aspx QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 6 2012, 11:14 PM) Cleber boy. You'll have to wait until case close only know when is your new date for the NCD Oh ok.He's claiming his own insurance under "OWN DAMAGE" clause because PDRM also didn't summon the bike |
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