I went MRI @ Forest medical center, kepong early this month and the report came out and stated that my ACL completely torn.
then i went and have a consultation with a orthopedic dr somewhere near there and he said that surgery is the best to recover.
anyone had the experience undergo the ACL reconstruction surgery? any good Dr near PJ area? my company took AIA and their panel around PJ is Tropicana medical center & KPJ Damansara

Hi TS,

are u an athlete/professionally playing any sport?
if not, i suggest u dont undergo the surgery.

maybe can give urself a really long break from any physical activity and see how?

just my 2cents.

Ah! Finally someone with this problem. Like what edvey mentioned, unless your knee is the source of your income (you're a prefessional footballer, basketballer, etc.), then no, you do not need to fork out that extra amount of money for a reconstruction surgery.

Btw, the doctor said it's a tear. But to what degree is the tear? Minor tears do not require surgeries.

As a matter of fact, research has shown that ACL reconstruction predisposes to a higher incidence of osteoarthritis (OA). Also, the outcome of conservative treatment over surgery has no difference, as research has shown.

just do it since u have completely tore it.. There's no other way n u won't want an unstable knee going along rite?

Btw, a good surgeon is only half of the journey, the other half is good physios. In a certain way, good physios are more crucial. As u c, the surgeon only spent few hours on the operation, and the following weekly follow up. But thereafter, u still have to spent "MONTHS" doing ur rehab.

its complete tear bro

yes. that is the other half of the journey. the 1st half is a good dr.

would you mind explain?

ps: speaking from experience here

for me it;s how determined u are before and after the surgery.
good luck bro.

i did my ACL surgery last nov and it went well.
below are my progress :
2 weeks - walk without crutches but with leg stabilizer
4 weeks - walk normal
2 months - slow jog
current - back to futsal

i did at sunway medical at it cost about 21k including the 60 days physio
usually the doc will give u 8 weeks MC.
the doc advice me to go for surgery as it will cost arthritis in early age and better do it while still young,
as its alot more easier to heal,stronger to do physio.
individual plays alot of effort & patience to do physio as it really really really helps!
do physio more and ull see the effect.

let me know if you need further info.
u might google the procedure in utube

Explanation to: "...research has shown that ACL reconstruction predisposes to a higher incidence of osteoarthritis (OA)..."

To quote PubMed:


This means that an ACL reconstruction, as compared to conservative treatment (application of physiological therapeutics), given the same amount of time, surgery will cause your knee to have a higher chance of developing OA of the knee. OA is the wearing and tearing of the articular cartilage of the bones, causing bone-on-bone contact. This significantly reduces the quality of life, as it causes pain during movement of any set of joints that has OA.


Explanation to: "...the outcome of conservative treatment over surgery has no difference, as research has shown..."

To quote PubMed, again:


By "outcome", i mean "post-surgery". In the view of post-surgery, there is no decreased risk of developing OA.
In terms of recovery, of course surgery provides a faster route to solving the ACL-tear. And in terms of quality of life, surgery appears to restore a certain amount of quality of life. But then again, we should be able to see things in the long-run, and not rather just cure-now-think-later. Surgical intervention will undeniably cost you a bomb, while restoring your quality of life temporarily, you are at risk of an earlier development of OA as compared to those who treated it conservatively.

So to say, ACL/PCL injuries of the knees are really debilitating, as no matter what, you're doomed for osteoarthritis

PubMed source: Ligament Injury, Reconstruction and Osteoarthritis

Ouch! That must be painful...

Firstly, how you tore your ACL? If you're a athlete (just like edvey ask u earlier) and you wanna continue what u do, go for surgery. If you're not then it's optional not to do so.

For the surgery: Some of the best doctors in this field resides in Penang. There are 1 or 2 really good ones in KL but I do not have the contacts. If you're interested in Penang PM me for contacts. I'll ask about the KL ones for you. Many of my team football members tore both their ACL n PCL due to intense football activities regularly I'm almost there! Anyway, many of them did it in Penang and the results was very good. BTW, I'm from Perak ya. The doctors there very good at diagnose problem to your injury. Proper recommendations... I remember there is one in KL that many national athletes went to, can't recall the name. Let me ask my seniors.

For no surgery: Consult your preferable doctor, do sports physio is an alternative to surgery. I didn't know this technique exist until 2003 when I was in Michigan that time. They had it ages ago! One of my buddy snap his ACL during a game. It happens in front of me. He just lay down n scream in joy! We went to the uni hospital and the doctor told us that it's optional not to do it. Well, the idea is to strengthen some of the particular muscles group around your knees to replace the torn ligament functions. The doctor said it was possible and the recovery rate is very high and fast. Downside is you can't stress your knee to maximum potential anymore...

One more thing, after the surgery (after the initial 6-8 weeks), no sports like football or basketball or tennis in particular. I recommend you to hit gym after that time and during your physio time. It will speed up your recovery. Consult your therapist... do it on your own at home or gym. Use a warm water bag to place it on your knee (do this after you're done with your crutches), for 30-45 minutes until the water cool down. Do it consistently every night at first, you can lower the frequency as you heal along. Give yourself more time to recover properly n don't rush it. You can slow jog after 8 weeks. The reason for proper rest n conditioning is when you heal... your knee will be stronger bcoz you're prepared physically n mentally.

GET WELL SOON!!!

This post has been edited by mansai: Mar 27 2012, 03:27 AM

Usually its plant (of leg and foot onto ground), twist (of femur on tibia), and pop (classical sound of ACL tear).

Thank goodness, i never experienced it before. Always wondering those badminton players with rubbery shoes...there is just so much friction on their shoes with the surface, so much risk for ACl injuries!

You may try Dr Soh in Gleaneagles; he pioneered scope surgery in Malaysia. Many MSC athletic seeks him.

Hi,
I am a physiotherapist.
In my opinion, i really think you should get it done, otherwise in another few years from now you might regret that you have not done anything about it.
It might also cost you more than what you have to pay now in the future.

You can PM me if you need any advise.


Thank you.

your recovery is quite good. where did u do physio?

i also did my MRI today certified ACL completely torn with some meniscus tear due to football 3 weeks ago.. twisted my knee.. i dint think its that serious at first.. but fk. haha. damn it.. .. at that time when my right knee pops, that was freaking awesome the pain.. i cant explain.. but after that i still can walk.. just numb and weak.. drove home and next day i am walking but in pain.. after a week i walk normal again.. just that when i bent ..the knee suddenly lose balance.. now i have to visit doctor again next appointment most likely gonna do surgery.. i dont know why my leg did not swell , where else my friend broke his ACL he say he couldnt walk at all for a week and the swell was intense

acl tear wont affect ur straight line walking/running, its when ur pivoting or cutting in football u'll feel the instablility of the knee.

serious? im feeling week sometimes when my knee is flex would give way.. dont know how to explain .. like taking stairs also..

yea, it feels like the knee is instable right? like the rubber band holding the knees is not there anymore .. well, thats wat ligament is for, to "hold" ur knees. No matter wat, go c a doctor n mri la~

Did MRI dy Lo doctor keep referring to other doctor has been dragging for 3 weeks each diff doctor appointment takes a week .. Sien , next week will see the doc operating my knee then only I know when I can have the operation,

did you go for a second opinion? Actually for a ACL, injury there is no hurry, hence there is no urgency from the doctor's end.

I too had ACL injury and torn meniscus on both my knee, but I opted not to operate. ANd do rehabilitation (physio,if you may call).

I had to rest for one year to regain both my leg strength since that had shrink-ed.

The choice is yours but do a learned decision.

This post has been edited by VeeJay: Apr 13 2012, 12:03 AM

bro thanks for the advice i know its no hurry.. but in order to claim my insurance my agent ask me dont drag too long..
and i want to do sports.. i mean possible that no longer able to play football..
at least i can play golf or something lighter without any trouble.. if i dont do operation i scared i cant even enjoy light sports.. i can feel that im gaining weight lol!!

This post has been edited by heng84: Apr 13 2012, 01:39 PM

After surgery you probably need few months to recover. So hang in there

i've did the surgery, after 1 year, i think i'm pushing myself harder in sports! If u want to have an active lifestyle n play sports, do consult with ur doctor n see what are the options available.

wow .. thats very good.. what sports do you play? any sports that you try to avoid? any do's and don't? im just very scared it will snap again if i go over the limits

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Added on April 14, 2012, 2:37 amya doc say 30% surgery.. rest is the physio.. depend on how hardworking or positive i am

This post has been edited by heng84: Apr 14 2012, 02:37 AM

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wow .. thats very good.. what sports do you play? any sports that you try to avoid? any do's and don't? im just very scared it will snap again if i go over the limits

football.. well, just do ur rehab n let the physio tell u when ur ready to go back, it will take some time as u will need to train up ur strength, balance, n etc..

[quote=tangtang22,Apr 16 2012, 09:04 AM]
[quote=heng84,Apr 14 2012, 02:37 AM]
wow .. thats very good.. what sports do you play? any sports that you try to avoid? any do's and don't? im just very scared it will snap again if i go over the limits

football.. well, just do ur rehab n let the physio tell u when ur ready to go back, it will take some time as u will need to train up ur strength, balance, n etc..

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ok tyvm!!

see dr. Gan. Damansara Specialist or Dr. Saw in Kuala Lumpur Sport Med Cntr.

I did in KPJ Sel but unfortunately the OP fail. I am not able to get my normal knee back. Is has been 6 month. I am not able to full extent and bend even i did my physio intensively.
I am suffer form athrofibrosis and meniscus injury now.

Looking for option.. either to redo using hamstring or clean the fibrosis. But, both procedure doc not guarantee me to get full range of motion.

Moral of the story.
Do not simply give yr leg to the doc to slaughter..

yeah. i read dr Gan kinda popular. How about the use of Allograft for your case?

i did mine > 10 years back. torn from taekwondo. wasted 2years plus diagnosing & dilly dalying. went for acl recon, RM4000 (HUKM). fell down during recovery.

it was a slow recovery for me, but if i didnt do the op, i cannot even do stretching anymore. nowadays the knee suka2 dislocate. my stories of dislocation could fill a few pages. latest was dislocated in office for 6 hours, cannot pop back inside. with a sor-hai colleague who is supposedly MANAGER sniggering & taking videos of me in pain and being loaded into ambulance.

summary, i dont regret doing the operation, without it, i cant do basic kicks. now, i'm in karate, i can kick but i cannot do any sudden movements without consequences anymore.

Am curious, how did you get your ACL torn? I am an avid runner in my early 40s but started running only a year ago. Lately, a lot of problem with my knee and did a MRI scan 2 weeks ago. Nothing was wrong but got problem with my ITB and resting now.

I am glad I found this thread, at least people are sharing and talking. I had my ACL torn some 22 yrs ago, but didn't gave a demn as I didn't really know what the hack it was. Not much detail was told to me or I didn't pay real attention. Had part of my cartilege cut off due to hair line crack. This was due to a fall while playing badminton and since then, had stopped playing completed. However, was suffering constantly from coolness in my left feet, easy tireness from short while standing, can't sit on my left side for long as it causes uncomfort. I when to see doctor but no one can really tell me what was wrong, just tell me found nothing wrong. about 5 years ago, I started massaging my leg and slowly things began to improve and all those symptoms started to ease off or becomes bearable so much so that I don't even feel it most of the time.

However, due to work fatigue and stress, I started searching for detoxification, etc... started drinking brown rice tea then eventually when back to play sports. Last April, while playing badminton, just a little jump and had lost balance, fell and sent to hospitial A&E to see doctor. Knee cap came off, was on wheel chair and clutches when walking. could not bend my feet at all. Doctor arranged for me to visit the sport clinic the follow week. I went to visit my TCM after A&E visit and my knee cap was put back in placed. I was able to walk immediately and went home without clutches or wheel chair. Sport's clinic placed me on physio program, also arrange to see bone specialist. MRI was done 2 weeks late due to "full house", even then, was done in the evening because they had to clear many backlog.


Some where in the 3rd week, I already started playing but within my limits but I was still running like before except the weakness on my left leg. MRI out in 5 week indicated complete tear. Physio asked that I go re-construction. I hestitated and search the internet for info... Found conflicting research report regarding going for Op. Initially, was almost certain to go for day surgery to have it repair, but after reading another recent report about those who had it, after 10 years, sufffering from other knee related problems. This report was from Romania regarding their atheletes who had undergone Op and went back to their respectively sports. Another report interview those who had not done so after 10 years, non sporty people are still doing well. So decided not to go but was put on rehabilitation program. Suppose to last 5-6 moths depending on progress. Stick closely to the routine and even did extra on my own to improve my condition. My left tight muscle strink 6cm after 3 days from accident. became very weak but was able to do most action but with some form of pain. physio did some test and then follow by instructor's on working on my leg. Surprisingly, within 10 weeks, I was off the program. in fact, from the 4 weeks, I was back to my game but had adjusted to suit my leg condition. Adjsuted my game plan so that I don't stretch my left knee too much. I also put on a knee brace with stablizer. Physio told me I had to strengthen my hamstring muscle as it would act to support my knee movement backward and forward. As for the side movement, the brace would help as the steel metal in the brace help stablised the knee.

All in, don't loose heart, you are to determine how you are going to recover and what sort of quality of life you want as compare to previously prior to the accident. Lots of thing was told to me during my rehab program and I do take care not to aggravate it for fear of "THE END" for my left knee. I am still enjoying my game, would rate it as 8-9 out of 10 compare to previously, buy I hardly need to stretch to that extent only on occcasions. If there is no need, I would not like to. most time, I rate myself 7, which is what the phyiso target set for the patient prior to being drop from the program. Should I feel that my bone touches each other, that is it, I call it a day and rest. Do my message everyday. Once in a while, visit my TCM for some message to improve my blood circulation.

Done my ACL (Hamstring Graft)+Meniscus tear recently. and this is my story.

Day 1 - Friday, OP around 3 p.m and finish around 6 . nothing much after the OP. Just rest for the night with GameReady ice compressing machine the whole night. Anyway, no major pain felt and its just swell a bit. from 1 to 10,
pain are just 3 max. Anyway, they gave u shots of morphine just in case the pain is unbearable.
Day 2 - Saturday, Nurse removed the blood drain tube (tube from under the pattela) Physician walk in on the afternoon, teach me how to use the crutches with full weight, and how to strengthen my quad muscle.Just rest for the
night with GameReady ice compressing machine the whole night.
Day 3 - Sunday, walk around the ward slowly, did the quad muscle sets 3 times and a lot of bending (slowly). GameReady ice compressing machine was use all the time after the exercise and the whole night.
Day 4 - Monday, went to physio department, my Range of Motion (ROM) now is 80°. Continued with the quad muscle training.
Day 6 - Wednesday, physio still the same, ROM now around 110°, i forced my self when i was in my room . and started playing with the stair @ the hospital. slowly but surely.
Day 7 - Dischared!!! Finally... go home and continue with the physio.

Week 2 - Bending now around 120°, physio done with weight bearing, slowly regain my confidence. a bit limping tho and stitches removed. (doctor suggested not to go more than 90° because related to meniscus)

Week 4 - Bending now around 130° (naturally and did not force anything) , still physio with weight bearing. no limping and can fast walk. hamstring felt discomfort when bend around 130° though.

Week 6 - Bending almost complete, physio with weight bearing and already fast walk and cycle during physio rehab in hospital. still felt some discomfort around hamstring area.


Anyway, recovery time are varies to the persons. One of the main reasons for the recovery to take such times are because of fear. So be positive and motivate yourself to control it.

Wow, that sounds like 1,2,3 for you! Glad that you share this time frame with us. I am considering to have my surgery this July..but here's my problem:

1) I have not make any appointments with any doctor/surgeon yet -- still reading around for recommended surgeon/specialist
2) My company's insurance policy covers RM18,000 for my level of employment
3) I want the insurance to cover my surgery -- but is it possible? because I injured in 2009 when I was in university. Currently, I am working so I am afraid that the insurance won't cover me, due to pre-employment injury. Btw, the insurance company is ING.
4) How long will it take to make appointment with private/government hospital for the surgery? 1 month before? 2 months? Reason being, govt hospital is cheap as I am only covered for RM18,000..so to go to private specialist might cost me more.. and I am really targeting to repair my acl/meniscus this coming July..

1. very good. read around. be prepared. but i recommend dr.Asri of prince court. it's not just the specialist. specialist is half. another half would be the physio and your mental strength.

2. my price all in was 22k. my housemate did it at ampang puteri was 30k. so i think the price would be varies, depending on the case.

3. u need to see the doctor and discuss this.

4. before i went to prince court (i just blitz in prince court, same day see doctor), i did tried hospital selayang. 1st day set date with front desk. a month later can see the doctor. a month later go mri. than 2 weeks after maybe surgery. but the price that was quoted for me was 14k.

This post has been edited by sheiberlee: Jun 4 2013, 07:08 AM

U should try around gathering feedback which hospital the best bro...then go clinic to refer u to hospital...
18k should b sufficient.. Mine was 10-15k which i tink is 15k when doc issue the letter to insurance company
Tell the doc to write ur report as recent injury. If they want ur business they should know wat to do
Once u got ur mri scan u can start appoinment inmediately...

Im in day 3 now
First day sunday night check in.. Puasa start at 6 am
Second day monday did operation at 3 n finish at 7.. At first i tink ok coz din vomit coz i jus lie on the bed but when i push the bed up terus vomit water.. Realy no appetite.. Kencing oso use a tabung
Now 3rd day jus use ice pack every 3 hour...
Hopefuly tomolo can go back..

wassup mang?

how u doing?

today is 9th day but i only can bend my knee till 90% still, doc say no need force lar..but one thing i concern i ady started walk since day 7 up n down without crutches..i scare the ligament bcome longgar oso..and today i started to drive ady...boring lar everyday stay home..my right knee ok lar...still can press pedall...ahahaha

good². 90% on day 9 is good. and summore u walk ady.

no need to strain to much. just do the physio as regular as u can. and u should be ok.

the ligament aint that easy to longgar la bro. but still, dont be over confident la haa

Not 90% la. Its 90 degree...it day 11 n i still 90 only...

i had meniscus as well and for my case, dr said dont go over 90 first 4 weeks.

so chill out

one of my friend did ACL recon at a small hospital at Jalan Ipoh.
from 2 hours become 5 hours.
dont know what happened but during the op, the dr can call & even refer to other dr from HKL (my friend went to HKL after that to check and the dr here remember his case). shit got worst after the OP and he kept getting fever for 3 months.

he then sued this hospital. won. outside court settle. and went to prince court same dr with me to redo his op (he was the one proposed dr.asri to me anyway).

so make sure the hospital/dr you gonna do have a good repo.

Damn..twisted my knee 2 weeks ago. Walking is pain even straight but i still cycle off road slow n steady but realy cannot twist at all..all the weight now like falls on my operated right knee... Very sad if the ligament torn again jus after less than 2 years..

Any1 hv any good dr? I did my operation previously woth dr lim in sri kota..heard the sports medical soh someting but every questions will end up with operation..hahahs..

oi what happened laaa???

just when my footballing career begins to restart slowly and almost 80% at my peak, a simple pass destroys everything...aahaha....i think at my age, if confirm acl or meniscus tear, will try not to hv surgery lar... retire from running n football... coz chinese says one time sugery will shorten 5 years of your life, i dowan it to shorten to 10 years....ahahaha....

Sounds like an infection, did your friend get better after that?

yeah. but damage is done. probably need second scope.

hey guys, i just did my ACL surgery almost a week back.

I went to Ara Damansara Medical Centre.

Supposed to be 1-2 hr surgery but extended to 4 hours after doctor found my menicus and cartilage tear aswell.

full recovery will take 6 months - 1 year.

but on crutches since op.

good for you.
slowly walk and gain confidence back.
do your physio regularly

Sprained my knee again, has anyone seen Dr. Chan Kin Yuen from Gleneagles before? I'm thinking of making an appointment to visit him soon.

My friend suffered from ACL after surgeries nothing much different. He still can't do well like before.

i suffered from ACL tear.
went for reconstruction.
now can go back to normal life & play sports.

My friend is very active in futsal even during his recovery he insists to play, I remember I once tackle him then feel so guilty luckily nothing happens.

Good for you then, I guess the result of surgery may be different based on cases.

I guess it depends on rehab a lot.

Rehab? What do u mean? Mind to share more?

its all about the physio. the surgery i would say would only be about 30-50% of the work. the other 50% is stretching. icing, exercise. etc. and so forth. playing during his recovery doesnt help... my friend did an ACL recon and he cant play still because his physio was piece of crap, told him cant do this and that. in the end scar tissue built up at the site and so he's a bit messed up. going to do another surgery to remove the scarring and then go to a better physio. poor guy.

Rehabilitation and physiotherapy treatment helps on the recovery process most of the time according to my friends that had undergone the surgery.

I see, no wonder my friend haven't recover fully as he still active after th surgery

Hence after surgery is important

post operation rehab is important up to 6 month after.
i started sports again 1 year after surgery.

u have allocate adequate time to recover unlike my friend he start to play sport within 6 months from surgery

Im a person who has tear acl also. Happened in last Nov
At 1st, I do not know what was ACL in the begging as I did an injury, it was bloody pain.
After went to clinic, they said could be meniscus. But after went to Pantai, found out it was ACL.
From the Med report it says:
1. ACL rupture
2. Lateral collateral ligament tear
3. Moderate effusion
4. Lateral tibial plateau bone edema

Im not sure about 2,3,4. Though, perhaps someone could explain to be, I'll be gladly appreciated.

The doc insists me to have surgery, but i feel reluctant to, because of my working schedule. Also I dont feel comfort for surgery, and the point is I still can walk with no problem, no support required.
However when squatting, I cant go 100%, when squat nearly 70% down. I feel pain.

So what I did was controlling my diet for the first 2 months, avoid seafood, avoid ice.
Then I did take Amway's nutrition Double X for 1 month. I feel the recovery is there, but not so rapidly.
It takes time though.

After finish the 1 month supplement (no longer taking). I resume back my as usual diet.

In Dec, after 1 month of the injury, i went back to futsal, played very softly, not aggressive at all.
When I do some certain movements, I feel the pain comes back. It was really hurt but I managed to hold the pain and continue, but still in the end, able to walk, and let the healing do the job.
After that I stop any sporting activities.

Right now, I'm able to make squat bout 90%, there's still pain and I can feel it.
I'm planning now to do some rehab by light jogging, kicking some balls, do abit of squat.
Anyone would care to share how to get back 100% fit? any diet or supplement recommend?

ouch, ACL hurts & take super duper long to recover ... even professional footballers with professional medical team take about an year to recover .. i feel for you guys . Good luck on the speedy recovery !

Continue with the rehab to strengthen your knee muscles so that you feel more stable but too get back 100% fit after ACL torn, that is pretty much impossible. Try to avoid sudden cutting moves when you are running.

How's your knee right now?

Bro did you to see Dr Chan? how is it? did you did the surgery ? I am thinking to see Dr. Chan Kin Yuen from Gleneagles as well

Yea I did but I went to seek for 2nd opinion after that, did my surgery with another doc. How's your knee now?

Oo which Dr that you when afterward? I have a partial ACL tear and meniscus tear ... however I want to do at least normal physical activity
So im thinking which Dr should I go to ask for opinion or operation

The first Dr I went advised me its advisable not to operate if its still Ok

how is your knee/leg now?

This post has been edited by Ryan's: Mar 14 2016, 04:31 AM

Mine is not a straight forward injury, I'm still going for physio and it's getting better now.

Need some help guys, can pls gimme your recommended surgeon to repair ACL?

your repair means reconstruction issit? i recommend my surgeon last time

Anyone undergo Dr. Chan Kin Yuen from gleneagle, does him good ?
I got ACL and meniscus tear , read some negative comment post-surgery.. not dare to go for it >.<

if anybody want to know,

my doctor was Datuk Dr. Mohd. Asri B Abd. Ghapar from Prince court (6 days warded private room, total all in RM23k)
if you want to do @ government, last time i checked at Hosp Selayang is RM14k,

HKL is known to be a pioneer for this treatment, hence more specialist.

if you want private treatment but cheaper price, go to private wing of general hospital, UMSC, UKMSC.
go make appointment first thru the general emergency room, let general dr check, make appointment with specialist, let specialist check. tell him want to do under insurance and under private wing. (will take around 4 months)

hope this help.

This post has been edited by sheiberlee: Jul 10 2016, 10:45 PM

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Hi,

I will go for ACL reconstruction surgery next month at Prince Court with Dato’ Dr. Badrul Shah Badaruddin. Anyone of you undergo with him?

Thanks

Should be ok jugak bro

All the best

Ermm, negative comments about the doctor or negative comments about the procedure?

Well myself I visited Dr. Chan before but I don't really recommend him.

Anyone undergo Dr. Lee Chong Ming from Sime Darby Subang Medical Center, does him good ?
I got ACL and meniscus tear, will do op on this coming thursday

seems that there's another type of treatment.

instead of normal scope and replace the ACL, since there are no blood cell around the ACL, it can never be recover unlike muscle tear.

new procedure will blanket the torn ACL with blood cell that will later heal it naturally. dont know if the procedure already here or not,

Opps.... May i know why u say so ?
I read his profile like very professional in treating sport injuries

So how was your knee now?
I read some comments that after the surgery, the knee become more sensitive, like may be kneeling down, will feel not so comfortable.

By taking the surgery, the road of recovery is not easy, my physioterapist tell me that it take 12-18mth to fully recover. My colleague take the surgery in mid of Jan, he tell me that initial few weeks will feel sucks, need people help and take care. The best part is, u get better chance to return to the activities you like (if your sport is high intense)

My first mri show I suffering acl tear and meniscus at first , first doctor advise me go for surgery
Then go for second doctor, advise me give a try on physioterapy (as even its the end opt for surgery, can speed up the recovery, because the muscle will be very weak after surgery, need to build up the muscle and return the motion as nearly to prior surgery)
Then 3 mths later... i go for second mri
Mri show acl tear, meniscus tear , patella chondromalacia , and some wear and tear of the cartilage

So concluded after my 10mths physioterapy :
- my range of motion return nearly as before injuries
- Now actively hit the gym (need maintain the muscle mass)
- Can dance, can jump and yoga ...

Negative:
- when knee tired, can feel the knee joint move -.-lll
- knee sometime will pain (the pain is running around the knee area, sometime front, sometime side, sometime back of knee)

Are you meant steam cell therapy ? I see Dr. Tay Yong Guan from Gleneagle got perform such treatment, he take part in steam cell research with the Dr Saw (founder of KLSMC).

My knee is pretty much recovered, I underwent my surgery with another doctor. I guess if you don't go for surgery, you will need to avoid exercises which involves cutting like football/basketball..A sudden change of motion/direction would result in twisting your knee which is bad.. that's what people who had acl injuries told me

Which doctor you go ?
You are right, it vry easy to get injured ! Need to have vry strong muscle only can really replace the ligament function. I have been re injured few times, and thats the reason also it hurt my patella (knee cap) more. I guess continuing, soon will need partial knee replacement >.<
Are you get back to your sports?

Yeah, I'm able to get back to my sports. How old are you and how did you injured your acl?

I had my surgery under Dr. Ezlan from Pantai Ampang. Had good experience under him.

I injured from martial arts, aged 20 plus ...
how you injured ? Did your knee feel uncomfortable when play sport after surgery ?

Sports injuries as well... yea, I still play sports but not competitive ones. Hope you do feel better now after the rehab!

My friends kena acl while playing football with me..after surgery, he undergone 1 year recovery liao. Imagine 1 year cannot play football and running.lol.so torture, pity him

I think football a bit risky sports..and he does not play as hard and as frequent football compared to b4 been hit by acl.

any of you guys could recommend good knee guard for meniscus post surgery?
thanx

post opp i think u need the guard with besi bro.

U can refer to picture for types



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Thank you.
gives a better idea

Did you finally end up with Dr Lee Chong Ming? Can share your experience? I know that was like 3 years ago lol. because i will need to go for surgery eventually...

May i know how your knee recovery? Back to sport 100%?

Thanks for sharing.

This post has been edited by terrytan: Apr 18 2021, 11:01 PM

I suffered similar injury. Glad to know you back to sports.

Did you go for bio ligament or own? Did you did stem cell treatment as well?

I am planning to go for surgery but still looking for a good surgeon.

The new ligament grafted from my hamstring and no stem cell treatment and that time.

Almost 95-99% recovered.. yes back to sports but I avoid contact sports, I did played some futsal tho .. but running/cycling/swimming is all ok for me

This post has been edited by Kilohertz: Apr 19 2021, 08:21 AM

I see some posts here say 'avoid seafood, avoid ice.' after surgery

May I know the reason why? Does it slow down recovery or what? I can't seem to find the source about avoiding ice and seafood after bone fracture/surgery

I still drink ice coffee and water everyday

Who said that???