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TSnorther
post Mar 21 2012, 03:25 PM, updated 14y ago

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Earth and Mars share a lot of common characteristics. It is said that Mars was the very first planet of our solar system that was colonized. When civilizations came to our solar system, they stopped and rested at Mars.
I found a lot of data on Andromedans. Now I’m not sure if they are for real or not, but with all the different types of strange things happening, I’d rather not strike out the possibility of their existence. Many, many years ago, when earth was still evolving, so was Mars. There were basic life forms there, but the colonization was done by travelers who came to our galaxy. About 70 million years ago, a big asteroid came to our solar system. This asteroid was very strong and hit Mars, making it change its orbit. This made its get pulled out by 19 million miles, destroying everything on it. It is said that Mars was inhabited for about 3.8 billion years before the asteroid hit it. This is why there are different ruins all over it. Tharsis Ridge is an area on Mars that shows ruins of a possible ancient city, which is about 69.3 million years old. There is also another interesting area known as Mariner Valley Canyon that contains the ruins of an ancient city that is buried there for about 113 million years.
There is a place on Mars called Earth Base Eve. It is a big complex that is millions of years old, and is being reactivated by the government. It is said that this center supported millions of humans. There were some pictures taken by Russia in March 1989. These pics showed mother ships on Mars surface. In March 1959, the NSA sent 3crafts to Mars in the Cydonia region. The purpose of this mission was to build colonies on Mars once again.

Some of you are disagree with any facts given above.
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post Mar 21 2012, 04:23 PM

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What facts? Given the lack of source of information, it isn't any different from work of fiction.

How exactly is Earth similar to Mars?
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post Mar 21 2012, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(Eventless @ Mar 21 2012, 04:23 PM)
What facts? Given the lack of source of information, it isn't any different from work of fiction.

How exactly is Earth similar to Mars?
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Egyptian - Cairo = ?????


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QUOTE(Eventless @ Mar 21 2012, 04:23 PM)
What facts? Given the lack of source of information, it isn't any different from work of fiction.

How exactly is Earth similar to Mars?
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how about polar cap on mars and earth?

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post Mar 21 2012, 05:46 PM

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Can you please put up the link of information that will support your post?

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There is a place on Mars called Earth Base Eve. It is a big complex that is millions of years old, and is being reactivated by the government.


This almost sounds like another conspiracy theory for me.

This post has been edited by mintyais: Mar 21 2012, 06:13 PM
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post Mar 21 2012, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(norther @ Mar 21 2012, 04:40 PM)
Egyptian - Cairo = ?????
This makes absolutely no sense.

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how about polar cap on mars and earth?
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Let's see, how is Mars different from Earth? From the Mars wikipedia page I can list a few.

No atmosphere. That's pretty lethal to any known lifeforms.

The reason for Mars having no atmosphere, it is missing a magnetic field. This allows radiation from space to reach the surface. Another feature lethal to living things. They lost that about 4 billions years ago.

If your city is around 63 million years old, it would have been on a dead planet. Why not just go directly to Earth which is pretty much alive at that time? Even at 3.8 billions years ago, it would have been a dead planet due to the above events.


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post Mar 21 2012, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(Eventless @ Mar 21 2012, 05:54 PM)
Let's see, how is Mars different from Earth? From the Mars wikipedia page I can list a few.

No atmosphere. That's pretty lethal to any known lifeforms.

The reason for Mars having no atmosphere, it is missing a magnetic field. This allows radiation from space to reach the surface. Another feature lethal to living things. They lost that about 4 billions years ago.

If your city is around 63 million years old, it would have been on a dead planet. Why not just go directly to Earth which is pretty much alive at that time? Even at 3.8 billions years ago, it would have been a dead planet due to the above events.
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Cairo, al-Qahirah is Arabic for Mars! Strange coincidence.


Here the similarity
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/environme...ng_Rivalry.html


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QUOTE(mintyais @ Mar 21 2012, 05:46 PM)
Can you please put up the link of information that will support your post?
This almost sounds like another conspiracy theory for me.
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I don't have the source.

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post Mar 21 2012, 07:37 PM


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why don't you just quote some news from theonion.com instead......makes no difference anyway.
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post Mar 21 2012, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Mar 21 2012, 07:37 PM)
why don't you just quote some news from theonion.com instead......makes no difference anyway.
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post Mar 21 2012, 08:03 PM

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Which part of not life supporting are you not understanding? Why would anyone want to live on planet that does not support life? None of your story matches the history of Mars. Mars been dead long before any of your so called ruins on Mars came into existence.

You probably should keep of the Internet if you can't separate fact from fiction.
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post Mar 21 2012, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(Eventless @ Mar 21 2012, 08:03 PM)
Which part of not life supporting are you not understanding? Why would anyone want to live on planet that does not support life? None of your story matches the history of Mars. Mars been dead long before any of your so called ruins on Mars came into existence.

You probably should keep of the Internet if you can't separate fact from fiction.
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appreciated that, anyway...i thought your juice are flowing. please refer reply from mintyais above.

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post Mar 21 2012, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(norther @ Mar 21 2012, 06:30 PM)
Cairo, al-Qahirah is Arabic for Mars! Strange coincidence.
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From the wikipedia entry for Cairo:
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al-Qāhira, literally "The Vanquisher" or "The Conqueror")

Based on the above meaning, the Mars that is being referred to is probably Mars, the Roman God of War. The planet Mars is named after him. So the link between Mars the planet and Cairo is not really relevant to your story.

Why would the arabic name of Cairo matter? The city has been around long before Islamic civilization existed.

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post Mar 21 2012, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(Eventless @ Mar 21 2012, 08:12 PM)
From the wikipedia entry for Cairo:
Why would the arabic name of Cairo matter? The city has been around long before Islamic civilization existed.
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Please read again the thread......

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post Mar 21 2012, 08:27 PM

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This is not a story telling forum. If you want to prove something, you need to provide the source of your theories. If you cannot do so, please do not post in this section of Lowyat.

It does not really matter what you are reading if the information that you are providing is wrong. What you feel does not matter. What you can prove does.

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post Mar 21 2012, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(Eventless @ Mar 21 2012, 08:27 PM)
This is not a story telling forum. If you want to prove something, you need to provide the source of your theories. If you cannot do so, please do not post in this section of Lowyat.

It does not really matter what you are reading if the information that you are providing is wrong. What you feel does not matter. What you can prove does.
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Again there is no sources...only personnel theory
Thanks for kind advice....but my advice is learn this and welcome to conspiracy theory of weird civilization :

1. Volcanoes on Mars
2. Orion’s Belt
3. Cydonia
4. Giza Pyramids
5. Sphinx’s
6. Cairo in ancient language of Egypt

It simply cannot be explain by a limited view understanding of what the ancient human civilizations were capable of.

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post Mar 21 2012, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(norther @ Mar 21 2012, 08:35 PM)
Again there is no sources...only personnel theory
Thanks for kind advice....but my advice is learn this and welcome to conspiracy theory of weird civilization :

1. Volcanoes on Mars
2. Orion’s Belt
3. Cydonia
4. Giza Pyramids
5. Sphinx’s
6. Cairo in ancient language of Egypt

It simply cannot be explain by a limited view understanding of what the ancient human civilizations were capable of.
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I'm afraid that no one will understand what you trying to say since no one can read your mind. Throwing out a bunch of words that only you can understand isn't helping going to help anyone especially yourself. It just sounds like ranting of a mad man.

If you can't explain it, how do you expect other people to understand what you are trying to say?
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post Mar 21 2012, 08:49 PM

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I have a very hard time trying to understand whether or not you are another conspiracy theory supporter. First thing first, do you believe all conspiracy theories that many people have suggested?
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post Mar 21 2012, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(mintyais @ Mar 21 2012, 08:49 PM)
I have a very hard time trying to understand whether or not you are another conspiracy theory supporter. First thing first, do you believe all conspiracy theories that many people have suggested?
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I use logical


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I'm afraid that no one will understand what you trying to say since no one can read your mind. Throwing out a bunch of words that only you can understand isn't helping going to help anyone especially yourself. It just sounds like ranting of a mad man.

If you can't explain it, how do you expect other people to understand what you are trying to say?
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Some of you are disagree with any facts given above.


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QUOTE(norther @ Mar 21 2012, 03:25 PM)
Earth and Mars share a lot of common characteristics. It is said that Mars was the very first planet of our solar system that was colonized. When civilizations came to our solar system, they stopped and rested at Mars.
I found a lot of data on Andromedans. Now I’m not sure if they are for real or not, but with all the different types of strange things happening, I’d rather not strike out the possibility of their existence. Many, many years ago, when earth was still evolving, so was Mars. There were basic life forms there, but the colonization was done by travelers who came to our galaxy.
I think there is a pretty good chance that Andromedans exists. That is, there are living things in there. The probability that they visited Earth and Mars is not so good though.

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About 70 million years ago, a big asteroid came to our solar system. This asteroid was very strong and hit Mars, making it change its orbit. This made its get pulled out by 19 million miles, destroying everything on it. It is said that Mars was inhabited for about 3.8 billion years before the asteroid hit it. This is why there are different ruins all over it. Tharsis Ridge is an area on Mars that shows ruins of a possible ancient city, which is about 69.3 million years old. There is also another interesting area known as Mariner Valley Canyon that contains the ruins of an ancient city that is buried there for about 113 million years.
If it was hit by a single asteroid ONCE, wouldn't that leave it in an elongated orbit? Isn't Mars' current orbit too circular for that?

Hit the right way, by something of sufficiently high mass or velocity, yes, the apogee can be raised, so it orbits further away from the sun. But what raises the perigee as well?

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There is a place on Mars called Earth Base Eve. It is a big complex that is millions of years old, and is being reactivated by the government. It is said that this center supported millions of humans. There were some pictures taken by Russia in March 1989. These pics showed mother ships on Mars surface. In March 1959, the NSA sent 3crafts to Mars in the Cydonia region. The purpose of this mission was to build colonies on Mars once again.

Some of you are disagree with any facts given above.
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I wouldn't go there. This is the setting for a science fiction story you're writing?

The Soviet Union was formally dissolved on December 25, 1991. The coup that percipated it occured in August 1991. It started to break apart with SSRs declaring independence starting in August. But in 1989, Russia was not an independent state. If any pictures were taken, it would be by the Soviet Union.

Sputnik 1 was launched on Oct 4, 1957. In March 1959, the USA was not in a position to send any craft to Mars. They had only managed to send up 5 satellites into orbit, 3 Explorers and 2 Vanguards. 2 other Explorers, and 6 Vanguards failed to achieve earth orbit.
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QUOTE(dkk @ Mar 21 2012, 10:03 PM)
I think there is a pretty good chance that Andromedans exists. That is, there are living things in there. The probability that they visited Earth and Mars is not so good though.
If it was hit by a single asteroid ONCE, wouldn't that leave it in an elongated orbit? Isn't Mars' current orbit too circular for that?

Hit the right way, by something of sufficiently high mass or velocity, yes, the apogee can be raised, so it orbits further away from the sun. But what raises the perigee as well?
I wouldn't go there. This is the setting for a science fiction story you're writing?

The Soviet Union was formally dissolved on December 25, 1991. The coup that percipated it occured in August 1991. It started to break apart with SSRs declaring independence starting in August. But in 1989, Russia was not an independent state. If any pictures were taken, it would be by the Soviet Union.
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Russian Probe Phobos 2 was vanished in March 28, 1989. The probe made contact with a non-human intelligence life form before it permanently disappeared. The Soviet government refused to acknowledge extraterrestrial intelligence, even though many of their top military and commercial pilots have made credible reports of such sightings.
QUOTE(dkk @ Mar 21 2012, 10:03 PM)
Sputnik 1 was launched on Oct 4, 1957. In March 1959, the USA was not in a position to send any craft to Mars. They had only managed to send up 5 satellites into orbit, 3 Explorers and 2 Vanguards. 2 other Explorers, and 6 Vanguards failed to achieve earth orbit.
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Montauk Project


Humans are illogical; therefore it would be illogical to expect them to behave logically

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post Mar 22 2012, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(norther @ Mar 21 2012, 11:06 PM)
Humans are illogical; therefore it would be illogical to expect them to behave logically
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Logic and fact are based on evidence. You have not shown any. None of your arguments are fact or logical.

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