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 GENNEVA MALAYSIA, some facts.., READ and UNDERSTAND

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prophetjul
post Jul 5 2012, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 5 2012, 08:32 AM)
Coz either:
a. Most people ("them") follow greed/fear INSTEAD of listing down in Excel or paper, and analyzing for 3 to 5 years+ impact  shocking.gif
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b. People like U and i aren't as enlightened as "them" to these kind of NEW investment SCHEMES. Hey, paradigm shift U know (if ever there was an over used cliche.. "Paradigm Shift")  notworthy.gif

Only old man time will know the truth.
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We have NOT seen the LIGHT!

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post Jul 5 2012, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 5 2012, 10:00 AM)
We have NOT seen the LIGHT! 

We are stoopid and Ignoramus.
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post Jul 5 2012, 05:14 PM

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While all of you argue here, there is someone pocketing RM15k in interest every month.

The trick to this is , you got to know when to get in and when to get out. Just like stock market.Stay longer and you might risk getting burned!
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post Jul 5 2012, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jul 5 2012, 05:14 PM)
While all of you argue here, there is someone pocketing RM15k in interest every month.

The trick to this is , you got to know when to get in and when to get out. Just like stock market.Stay longer and you might risk getting burned!
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Good idea - just like GoldQuest.

There's no argument lar great trader, we're just bouncing whether
a. it's an INVESTMENT per se or not
b. sustainability / risks

Good to hear someone is poketing RM15K in "interest" (eh tak boleh call interest lar, hibah!) every month, exposing $XX,XXX,XXX to gawd knows what risks notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jul 5 2012, 05:14 PM)
While all of you argue here, there is someone pocketing RM15k in interest every month.

The trick to this is , you got to know when to get in and when to get out. Just like stock market.Stay longer and you might risk getting burned!
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Reward: RM15K a month
Risk: I'm sure it'd be more than RM150K, assuming 10% per month interest oops I mean hibah

Who are we to know when it will all unravel and go bust? I think I'm exposed to lower risk by trying to win RM15K with RM150K capital at Genting casino...
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 5 2012, 06:16 PM)
Reward: RM15K a month
Risk: I'm sure it'd be more than RM150K, assuming 10% per month interest oops I mean hibah

Who are we to know when it will all unravel and go bust? I think I'm exposed to lower risk by trying to win RM15K with RM150K capital at Genting casino...
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If its 15k/month, the capital is 750k lorrr. 2% interest opps hibah smile.gif
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post Jul 5 2012, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(skng03 @ Jul 5 2012, 10:00 PM)
If its 15k/month, the capital is 750k lorrr. 2% interest opps hibah smile.gif
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RM750k........the boss of the company only come up with RM50k. And pay you RM15k every month biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by EddyLB: Jul 5 2012, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jul 5 2012, 11:28 PM)
RM750k........the boss of the company only come up with RM50k. And pay you RM15k every month  biggrin.gif
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eh bro, dont lar like that.
The investor of $750K can see what U & i don't see lar. U got $750K to throw away meh? tongue.gif
When U have, then only talk lar <tongue in cheek sarcasm>

People can afford mar + know more in-depth than U & i.. ooops me at least,
coz i can't afford to throw $750K into something like THAT
(Gin ni wah - alakazam! poof more $ or no $, got gold ar... oh wait.. gold not in my hands yet, hopefully not DHL delivery half-way lost)

Sorry ar.. ran out of caffeine.. notworthy.gif
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post Jul 6 2012, 06:58 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 5 2012, 11:49 PM)
eh bro, dont lar like that.
The investor of $750K can see what U & i don't see lar. U got $750K to throw away meh? tongue.gif
When U have, then only talk lar <tongue in cheek sarcasm>

People can afford mar + know more in-depth than U & i.. ooops me at least,
coz i can't afford to throw $750K into something like THAT
(Gin ni wah - alakazam! poof more $ or no $, got gold ar... oh wait.. gold not in my hands yet, hopefully not DHL delivery half-way lost)

Sorry ar.. ran out of caffeine..  notworthy.gif
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Wahahaha, at least if I go genting and win money bro lim will pay me for sure. genting big co ma.

But this one paid up capital only rm50k. How to have confidence lah hmm.gif
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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jul 6 2012, 06:58 AM)
Wahahaha, at least if I go genting and win money bro lim will pay me for sure. genting big co ma.

But this one paid up capital only rm50k. How to have confidence lah   hmm.gif
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Additional statistics:
Genting Big Co. (paid up capital)
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we know its business model is logical and sustainable on how it makes MORE THAN ENOUGH $ to pay its gamblers their winnings (IF they win)
statistical probability of gamblers winning in the long run is less than 45% (depending on games), thus long term-wise, gamblers as a whole, lose VS Genting wins

That's how Genting can afford the cost of operations, expansion and pay out to winners thumbup.gif

Ginni wah? er.. take other people's money (OPM) and roll or?
Sorry ar "investors", please help me see the light. I also want 2% per month interest.. whoops, hibah + contractual buy back (or was this changed too?)

BTW, hibah = gift
This is a token given voluntarily by a debtor to a debitor in return for a loan. Hibah usually arises in practice when Islamic banks voluntarily pay their customers a 'gift' on savings account balances, representing a portion of the profit made by using those savings account balances in other activities.
It is important to note that while it appears similar to interest, and may, in effect, have the same outcome, Hibah is a voluntary payment made (or not made) at the bank's discretion, and cannot be 'guaranteed.'{akin to Dividends earned by Shares, however it is not time bound but is at the bank's discretion) However, the opportunity of receiving high Hibah will draw in customers' savings, providing the bank with capital necessary to create its profits; if the ventures are profitable, then some of those profits may be gifted back to its customers as Hibah
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_banking

Is this a bank of some sort?
I'm very worried on the part "...and cannot be 'guaranteed...." + not a bank

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Jul 6 2012, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE(skng03 @ Jul 5 2012, 10:00 PM)
If its 15k/month, the capital is 750k lorrr. 2% interest opps hibah smile.gif
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Why not u pass me RM500K and I help u "earn" RM20K at Genting casino? shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jul 6 2012, 07:32 AM)
Why not u pass me RM500K and I help u "earn" RM20K at Genting casino? shakehead.gif
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weiiiiiii, i was comment on your previous reply lar... doh.gif


btw, 500k in genting can win more than 20k and may be loss all wink.gif
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QUOTE(skng03 @ Jul 6 2012, 08:42 AM)
weiiiiiii, i was comment on your previous reply lar... doh.gif
btw, 500k in genting can win more than 20k and may be loss all wink.gif
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I dun wanna hijack this thread and turn it into a gambling discussion thread, but I stand by my words laugh.gif
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Perlaburan Emas Syarikat Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd Tidak Sah
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"tidak mematuhi sepenuhnya peraturan hukum syarak dan undang-undang negara."

So, it's not halal only, or not halal AND illegal? hmm.gif
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Tidak mematuhi undang-undang negara...

Isnt that illegal? wink.gif
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post Jul 12 2012, 09:41 AM

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So No Hibah, No Genneva............not sah
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Jul 12 2012, 09:40 AM)
Tidak mematuhi undang-undang negara...

Isnt that illegal? wink.gif
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