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 GENNEVA MALAYSIA, some facts.., READ and UNDERSTAND

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celicaizpower
post Oct 3 2012, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(HighRoller84 @ Oct 3 2012, 12:47 PM)
You might not be a geneva agent but you sure as hell are one of those gold agent scammers with your 10-15% guaranteed return per month scumbag company. Everyone look at his forum signature.
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Wow, I find it amazing that you call me a scammer without prove & evidence. You must be one of those typical malaysians "Guilty until proven innocent".

Please prove that I am a scammer before calling me one, otherwise STFU & tqvm. smile.gif
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post Oct 3 2012, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(AppleForMyLife91 @ Oct 3 2012, 01:37 PM)
Genneva is not scam company la...dunno why they get raid by BNM, my bro say dunno this time is how many times they get raid ady...
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Please provide fact before you say anything else.


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post Oct 3 2012, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(MakNok @ Oct 3 2012, 01:41 PM)
you are playing blame game now..
Blaming BNM for not following up???

If BNM raid means...Genneva is the one not following up..
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Hehehe thanks for the peace sign, I understand you are trying to prove a point don't worry I am here to discuss about the situation and not blaming anyone (in this forum la).

Ok, back to your statement above.

No I am not playing any games. I am clearly giving what is stated by the press as fact. Please see how I quoted them in the earlier post. Truth be told, our government agencies are not as good as they are supposed to be, in this case the fact is presented in The Star newspaper (refer SOS) is that BNM failed to respond with a date for interview.

Now, if you say that Genneva failed to follow up, where is your evidence? (well we might need to wait sometime more till it becomes a fact rite? the second consideration will be if it was really Genneva's fault in delaying, till then your statement is just an assumption, correct?)
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post Oct 3 2012, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Oct 3 2012, 01:43 PM)
Wow, I find it amazing that you call me a scammer without prove & evidence. You must be one of those typical malaysians "Guilty until proven innocent".

Please prove that I am a scammer before calling me one, otherwise STFU & tqvm. smile.gif
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Please see this weblink
http://imgur.com/eMbcD

it is where you Claim and GUarantee 10 to 15% in Gold Investment..

have you forgotten?? laugh.gif

CHECK your signature post! thumbup.gif

Get 10-15%++ Money return monthly GUARANTEED via Gold Investment!! PM me to findout how![SIZE=7][COLOR=red]

This post has been edited by MakNok: Oct 3 2012, 01:56 PM
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:03 PM

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If investment is so easy, maybe our government should put x billions of ringgit to get 10-15% return per annual. Few years after, our country will clear all the debts.
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(AppleForMyLife91 @ Oct 3 2012, 02:37 PM)
Genneva is not scam company la...dunno why they get raid by BNM, my bro say dunno this time is how many times they get raid ady...
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If happen in Malaysia only, can give some breather la, coz you know our country good *AHEM* regulation and policy...raid 10 times also not kena. Have a cow farm, can buy super bungalow also no problem.

But if this raid also happen in Singapore.. I tell you. Singapore will nail you down, drill screws into the your core, until they shutdown. Singapore have a tough audit checks and they scrutinized every details before answer the public and decide this is a flaw... Remember Sunshine Empire story?

Either way, people will start losing faith on Genneva, and ppl will start asking back for money. That's where the burst is gonna start. If Malaysia gomen wanna help out, they will soft-landed this issue, so no one need to jump down from high building each day coz i know all those aunty uncle really use their life savings on this. pitty them.

I been approached by Genneva agent before. They keep pushing me to buy, until they tell me how to can i make use bank personal loan facility to earn money by their Genneva products. Personal loan lowest now is about 9% per annum ( if you loan > 50K above ), but genneva gives you 2% per month, which makes 24% per annum return. So 24 - 9 % = 15%, i can still untung a lot, they said.

Where is your ethics and integrity, dey??! Please la...

This post has been edited by dave185: Oct 3 2012, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Oct 3 2012, 01:54 PM)
Please see this weblink
http://imgur.com/eMbcD

it is where you Claim and GUarantee 10 to 15% in Gold Investment..

have you forgotten?? laugh.gif

CHECK your signature post! thumbup.gif
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Sorry, what does that prove? here let me educate you... it only proves that I am selling something that pays back a return monthly with in a certain percentage with gurantee.

Do you have evidence that it is a scam? no rite?

Do you know of anyone who say that I have scammed him/her? no rite?

Do you have a police report or a wanted list that say I am a scammer? no rite?

Or yet better still, is my name on the Apis Lua Lua list in "Trade Zone Helpdesk & Dispute Resolution Corner" as a scammer? also no rite?

So your point is not legit & without evidence. smile.gif

Btw in our court of Law, I can summon you for defamation... but what's the use... you are just the exception that is born every minute... smile.gif
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Oct 3 2012, 02:05 PM)
Sorry, what does that prove? here let me educate you... it only proves that I am selling something that pays back a return monthly with in a certain percentage with gurantee.

Do you have evidence that it is a scam? no rite?

Do you know of anyone who say that I have scammed him/her? no rite?

Do you have a police report or a wanted list that say I am a scammer? no rite?

Or yet better still, is my name on the Apis Lua Lua list in "Trade Zone Helpdesk & Dispute Resolution Corner" as a scammer? also no rite?

So your point is not legit & without evidence. smile.gif

Btw in our court of Law, I can summon you for defamation... but what's the use... you are just the exception that is born every minute... smile.gif
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Methinks the problem are these words

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Get 10-15%++ Money return monthly GUARANTEED via Gold Investment!! PM me to findout how!



That makes on sound like a SCAm biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by prophetjul: Oct 3 2012, 02:10 PM
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:09 PM

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Sudah kena raid, those kena scammed still want to defend it
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QUOTE(aladdin @ Oct 3 2012, 02:03 PM)
If investment is so easy, maybe our government should put x billions of ringgit to get 10-15% return per annual. Few years after, our country will clear all the debts.
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Thus why the term "High Risk, High Gain & Low Risk, Low Gain". The government wants to play it safe, what can we do? rite? Ultimately it is the investors choice.


Added on October 3, 2012, 2:13 pm
QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 3 2012, 02:07 PM)
Methinks the problem are these words
That makes on sound like a SCAm    biggrin.gif
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The word MIGHT plays a big role and can be categorize in the same definition as ASSUMPTION. For instance why not take the word ASSUME and disect it, with some slight arrangement it can mean "AS$ U & ME". So lets not assume and give facts. smile.gif

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post Oct 3 2012, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Oct 3 2012, 02:05 PM)
Sorry, what does that prove? here let me educate you... it only proves that I am selling something that pays back a return monthly with in a certain percentage with gurantee.

Do you have evidence that it is a scam? no rite?

Do you know of anyone who say that I have scammed him/her? no rite?

Do you have a police report or a wanted list that say I am a scammer? no rite?

Or yet better still, is my name on the Apis Lua Lua list in "Trade Zone Helpdesk & Dispute Resolution Corner" as a scammer? also no rite?

So your point is not legit & without evidence. smile.gif

Btw in our court of Law, I can summon you for defamation... but what's the use... you are just the exception that is born every minute... smile.gif
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Hey..go ahead and SUE for all i care.

like some forummer posted here "Guarantee[SIZE=7][COLOR=red]"!!!!

This post has been edited by MakNok: Oct 3 2012, 02:23 PM
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Oct 3 2012, 02:10 PM)
Thus why the term "High Risk, High Gain & Low Risk, Low Gain". The government wants to play it safe, what can we do? rite? Ultimately it is the investors choice.


Added on October 3, 2012, 2:13 pm

The word MIGHT plays a big role and can be categorize in the same definition as ASSUMPTION. For instance why not take the word ASSUME and disect it, with some slight arrangement it can mean "AS$ U & ME". So lets not assume and give facts. smile.gif
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The word GUARANTEED doesn't sound risky? whistling.gif
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:16 PM

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i think this page started to show more anger ady...it's like one another trying to prove who is beter in investing
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:17 PM

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10%-15% is possible for stock market..

but what you have to learn is the knowledge of making money..

but wait... I never trust Genneva at all... lol...

i rmb there is one people call pat... where is him now? please come out explain lol
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QUOTE(celicaizpower @ Oct 3 2012, 02:10 PM)


The word MIGHT plays a big role and can be categorize in the same definition as ASSUMPTION. For instance why not take the word ASSUME and disect it, with some slight arrangement it can mean "AS$ U & ME". So lets not assume and give facts. smile.gif
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its a FACT you use the word Guaranteed..........no? Maening SURE?

Its not an ASSumption......no?


guar·an·tee
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noun
1.
a promise or assurance, especially one in writing, that something is of specified quality, content, benefit, etc., or that it will perform satisfactorily for a given length of time: a money-back guarantee.

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guaranty ( defs. 1, 2 ) .

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/guaranteed?s=t
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QUOTE(gheyfriend @ Oct 3 2012, 03:16 PM)
i think this page started to show more anger ady...it's like one another trying to prove who is beter in investing
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Ghey,

Can hand me that popcorn and coke. The show is going to start. Lol!
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Oct 3 2012, 02:17 PM)
10%-15% is possible for stock market..

but what you have to learn is the knowledge of making money..

but wait... I never trust Genneva at all... lol...

i rmb there is one people call pat... where is him now? please come out explain lol
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maybe already pack bag (money) and running? with big smile on face?

one word = GREED.
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(aladdin @ Oct 3 2012, 02:19 PM)
maybe already pack bag (money) and running? with big smile on face?

one word = GREED.
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She is in the news. Read the star ...Pat Lu.


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post Oct 3 2012, 02:21 PM

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Actually it's a very simple maths.

FD 3%
Bank Loan Blr-2.x = 4% Reducing Balance
Credit Card 18% Flat
Unit Trust 10% +-
Warrent Buffet average 20% compound

The financial system is created by kwai lou(orang putih) what makes you think Geneva Gold is smarter? Auntie invest gold 2.5% pm flat which is more than 30% pa. Bank close shop, Public Mutual close long long time. VISA/Master Card change business invest in gold. Insurance company close shop everyone go invest in gold. Property market crash all buy gold instead of house.

If they can pay u 30% pa so they have to make more than that 35% pa? You tell me this is legit, i tell you this is bullshit.

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wow offensive comment detected..

Thanks, but this post has already been reported (report ID:173892) whistling.gif


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I tell you what. Genneva sell you gold at 30% above UOB Spot price.

How abt you pay me upfront UOB Spot price plus 30% extra (same as Genneva)? We go together to UOB.

I buy the UOB gold at spot price and keep the 30%.

I will give you on the spot the UOB gold, and another 24% (from the 30% you gave me initially).

Meaning you get the gold (same price as Genneva offered you) and the 24% immediately. No need to wait 12 months. It is immediate.

I also get the 6% (30% - 24%) immediately.

If ok, pls pm me, we meet at UOB.


anyway Great post Quoted by Prophetjul few pages back..

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