ohhhh..... chea.... i thought i got a good offer..... haiya..... me still new at BC really dunno bout the price... hehehhee..... then i better deal with tackle shop better.... thank for the info bro KK

Aiseyman bro Voon, not from tackle shop kaa, then got give you 'warranty' and free 'Abu Cap' moe.....

no lar.... i think i wont purchase it lar...... hey what bout this PENN CAPTIVA CLL 4000...... spinning reel lar.... 150 bucks only???
good kar????

Aiyooo, haven't buy wan kaa bro Voon, if you wanna BC reel that is about{maybe a lil more} the price range of Abu C3, go ask Sifu Rory for the Shimano Calcutta 400, he got 'lobang'......
As for Peen Captiva, it's made in China, at that price range{Rm110-150} you can get the Abu cardinal 300 series or Ryobi applause or the Daiwa Regal X series which is smother....

Bro Voon,

Thanks for the compliment.

Can share with us, what do you intend to use with BC?

For toman casting? or trolling biggies??

If for toman, you might want to use low profile...like Banax Armis, Shimano Chronarch 100A, Calcutta 50, Daiwa Procaster Z, Team Daiwa X. Strongly suggesting something that is within RM200.

You can check out Tomman X(RM50~60), Banax Armis(RM140+-)

If you're going for trolling...you can consider Abu Six Star, TGC and suchs...extremely reliable

The main reason for asking is about your casting ability.
Abu are not that good for casting ability, as it's heavier too...

Bro KK, you are right,
i would go for ryobi, cardinal or even daiwa regal X

18th kenot ler, i got class

ok man... thank for all the infos.... wah lau... lucky to have all u buddies and sifus with me... if not sure i kena con hehehehe

Bro Nico, wat class you attending, got lenglui kaa, if got i oso wanna enrol leeh......kekekekekee.............


ps: skip one class kenot meeh~?

Arloo~ photochopped sifu also want to attend class meh??

guys.... i am coverting to BC soon... will be getting this outfit this weekend
hope to catch a toman by this sunday
hehehehehehee

hahaha

good luck....someone kena poison liao...

For everyone's benefit and knowledge



Low profile VS round BC


Low Profile
Low profile is good for light lures, but also depending on the weight of the spool. The first easy kickoff of the spool to spin ensures the ability to cast light lure.

There are 2 types of spool, which has it's own pro and cons.

Shortshaft spool like daiwas and the new Abu Revo STX, totally disengages itself from the tension knob and pinion gear to ensure the ability to spin longer. This is to minimise the friction of the spool while casting.


See this: Short shaft spool


The other type is long shaft spool like the Shimanos and many brands out there in the market. To compare between these 2 spools, usually the long shaft spool are lighter to ensure the first kickoff is easy. Either way, both spool serves the purpose and works well.

See this: Long shaft spool


Test:
Unclutch the reel making the spool free in casting. Use your thumb, and give it a mild push. See how long the spool spins. The longer the spool spins, it means the ability to cast light lures better.

Example:
Shimano Scorpion can spins for easily 10secs and more
Shimano MG can spins for about 15~20secs and more
Shimano Calcutta50 can spins for 4secs+- and modified is about 15secs

Well that's on the ability to cast light lures....

Let's look on the drag system

Drag ability of low profile is always lower(except for the new Abu Revo with 24lb drag) than the round baitcast or spinning set. The key here is the ability to perform a smooth drag.

Test
Lock the drag in comfortable tension. Hold the spool with the thumb, and at the same time try to retrieve/crank the line....

Example:
Calcutta 50 is 4lb drag only
Scorpion is 6lb
Team Daiwa X is about 8lb
Abu Revo is 24lb !!! Recently landed a sailfish with such a small feature!

Now, the rest of the features like number of bearings are just for the smoothness of the cranking. There is usually 2 bearings on the spool itself to ensure the smoothness of the spool.

See this: 2 shielded bearing on the 2 end of the spool(the other bearing is on the shell of the reel).



The difference is, possible that the longshaft spool have 3 bearings. On the cover shell, spool itself and the tip of the shaft. Either that or the tip of the shaft bearing is a copper shim(however it can be upgraded)

For short shaft, it's definitely 2bearings only that is supporting the spool. On the spool itself and on the cover shell.


continue.....................

the last part is on the braking system.

Braking system is to control the spining motion of the spool so that it doesnt overrun. Once overrun it will cause CBH(read: CharBeeHoon aka birdnest)

There are 2 types of braking system as current.

Centrifugal braking system


Notice the small white pins on the edge of the holder(which has 6 brakes). These small little pieces of brake shoes are intended to control the spool to avoid overrun. Some has 2 pins(abu, mitchell), some has 4(shimano) and most of them has 6(most of the reels)

Shimano has a better braking systems currently which has more combinational that you can figure of. Starting off with SVS system(calcutta, chronarch), then 4X4SVS(Scorpion, MG) and the latest one is 4X8SVS system. All the systems here are to provide better casting distance and control for different weight of lures.

Let's move to Magnetic braking systems


Magnetic brake system uses the force of magnet to control the overrun. In such way there are no friction being produced. Unlike centrifugal, it's meant to rub the brake shoe to the brake ring areas to slow the spool down. Note the 8 pieces of magnetic in the picture above.

These are the replacement of the brake shoes, where the magnets will move forward nearer to the spool, or move backward which is furthur from the spool. If it's nearer, meaning that the magnetic force will pull the spool resulting the spool spins slower, and furthur, meaning that the force is lesser to pull the spool.

However, as per current, there are 3 types of magnetic braking systems

See pic: Magnetic force implied on the spool


See pic: magnetic force implied between the rim(which is attached to the spool)


See pic: similar system as above, however the rim has a spring too move forward or backward


Practically that's all you need to know for low profile mechanism. You can always prompt me a questions if you have any.

Till next time TUNE in for ROUND BC mechanism...happy casting

NIce info.. bro rory ..

bro pkvoon, you can also check here. Banax bc is cheap enough but dont know quality or now. u have to justify yrself. =)
here is the link

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This post has been edited by bbtat: Nov 10 2006, 01:02 AM

thanks to all the sifus here.......

many many thanks.....
hehehehhehe
buying the gear tomorrow

Welcome... now only i available to spend some time on the forum..
Already miss out so much of topic.. and fishes < i feel la...
Hahahaa

bro bbtat........
so busy ar?????

so still got time to fish or not???

up to now, Banax armis is still pretty strong..

Vinny has one and have undergone the torment like hard trashes, fresh and salt water too...

it's still in great working condition..

Okuma is moving up to the standards of Shimano and daiwas..if you notice the price is quite competetive too....Search for Okuma VS200...low profile and pretty good system + bearings..

Another coming up star is the Korean Bando+Banax. They are moving pretty fast too. For example Banax Starion, it's being reviewed in one of the jigging trip organised by TCE and still up to mark for the hard trash.

Well, it's my observation la...however, your preferred branding is in your decision.

no time lor...
just submitted my project, and left documentation not yet done. after that... Exam again... ush ush ush ush !!! so bek cek !!! ...