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 planning to change 2012 altis stock tyre and rim, but dowan sacrifice comfort so much

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TSyamasce
post Mar 12 2012, 01:54 AM, updated 14y ago

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hey guys,

wanna ask for some advices...i wan to improve altis handling and fast cornering stability while not sacrificing its comfort and NVH so much (alrdy plan to add on bars too)...any suggestions on

1. tyre brand and series
2. tyre spec (eg 215/55/R16)...prefer 17" but not sure on the thickness and width
3. rim brand and type (i heard better use those light weight rims for toyota cars)

thanks in advance

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tyre profile confirm 215/45/R17

recommended brand and series by other people:
-michelin ps3
-goodyear eagle f1 assymmetric (not the latest assymmetric 2)
-goodyear f1 directional 5
-hankook v8
-hankook v12
-conti premium contact 2
-other suggestions???

how bout rim brand and type (lightweight)?

This post has been edited by yamasce: Mar 12 2012, 01:23 PM
V12Kompressor
post Mar 12 2012, 01:55 AM

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bars will do much improvements than rims alone.
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post Mar 12 2012, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 12 2012, 01:55 AM)
bars will do much improvements than rims alone.
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i alrdy plan to do bars and tyre+rim
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post Mar 12 2012, 01:59 AM

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care to tell whats the stock tyre size and width?

nanti recommend 255/45/ZR19 sagat pulak.
TSyamasce
post Mar 12 2012, 02:04 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 12 2012, 01:59 AM)
care to tell whats the stock tyre size and width?

nanti recommend 255/45/ZR19 sagat pulak.
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haha sry sry...forgot 2 state my preference...i'm going for lightweight 17"...stock is 205/55/R16 alloy...main benefits i'm looking for is improve handling and body roll as well as better FC...
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post Mar 12 2012, 02:13 AM

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sounds like you want to be fast and at the same time want to save fuel. sweat.gif

BTW, changing tires or rims wont reduce the body roll. If you want the body roll to be cancelled out completely, adjustable suspension is your only way.

I'll pass on the tyre suggestion but normally a tyre which saves fuel wont be good in handling and vice versa. smile.gif
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post Mar 12 2012, 02:16 AM

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215/45/17 is the recommended spec from TRD.

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post Mar 12 2012, 02:24 AM

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Michelin XM2, Yokohama db, Continental CC3...

if u want more performance
Michelin PS3, Bridgestone RE002, Yokohama Advan Sport
TSyamasce
post Mar 12 2012, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 12 2012, 02:13 AM)
sounds like you want to be fast and at the same time want to save fuel. sweat.gif

BTW, changing tires or rims wont reduce the body roll. If you want the body roll to be cancelled out completely, adjustable suspension is your only way.

I'll pass on the tyre suggestion but normally a tyre which saves fuel wont be good in handling and vice versa. smile.gif
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lol...okok...then how bout juz improve handling and better at high speed cornering?any suggestions for tat?

QUOTE(eddychstu @ Mar 12 2012, 02:16 AM)
215/45/17 is the recommended spec from TRD.

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hmm...will it b the recommended tyre spec works best if install all other setups as specified in the sheet?coz definitely i won't touch the suspension and other things tat will void warranty...


Added on March 12, 2012, 2:37 am
QUOTE(skyblas @ Mar 12 2012, 02:24 AM)
Michelin XM2, Yokohama db, Continental CC3...

if u want more performance
Michelin PS3, Bridgestone RE002, Yokohama Advan Sport
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thx...wat bout the spec?i see XM2 dun hv 17" size...can't find any info on CC3 also lol...how bout lightweight rim recommendation?

This post has been edited by yamasce: Mar 12 2012, 03:10 AM
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post Mar 12 2012, 04:14 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 12 2012, 02:13 AM)
sounds like you want to be fast and at the same time want to save fuel. sweat.gif

BTW, changing tires or rims wont reduce the body roll. If you want the body roll to be cancelled out completely, adjustable suspension is your only way.

I'll pass on the tyre suggestion but normally a tyre which saves fuel wont be good in handling and vice versa. smile.gif
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- that is TS's problem pretty much. cant have the best of both worlds. either draw a balance and compromise, or go with 1 without the other.

- after the track day experience, 100% agree with this smile.gif
my semi-slick tires gripped the road firmly and having full control over the road. however body roll, from outside spectator's view, my car was rocking like a boat sweat.gif
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post Mar 12 2012, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 12 2012, 04:14 AM)
- that is TS's problem pretty much. cant have the best of both worlds. either draw a balance and compromise, or go with 1 without the other.

- after the track day experience, 100% agree with this smile.gif
my semi-slick tires gripped the road firmly and having full control over the road. however body roll, from outside spectator's view, my car was rocking like a boat  sweat.gif
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err alrdy updated my requirement...any recommendation?pls recommend something at least...
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post Mar 12 2012, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(yamasce @ Mar 12 2012, 01:54 AM)
hey guys,

wanna ask for some advices...i wan to improve altis handling and fast cornering stability while not sacrificing its comfort and NVH so much (alrdy plan to add on bars too)...any suggestions on

1. tyre brand and series
2. tyre spec (eg 215/55/R16)...prefer 17" but not sure on the thickness and width
3. rim brand and type (i heard better use those light weight rims for toyota cars)

thanks in advance
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Try eibach springs and UR bars (front, back, lower arms). It does reduce my altis body roll last time. Only slightly. Dont expect too much. Altis is not a good car for handling to start with.
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post Mar 12 2012, 11:16 AM

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well if u intend to keep the speedo range & comfort level
go with 205/50/17 or 215/50/17 tires
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post Mar 12 2012, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(watonk @ Mar 12 2012, 11:07 AM)
Try eibach springs and UR bars (front, back, lower arms). It does reduce my altis body roll last time. Only slightly. Dont expect too much. Altis is not a good car for handling to start with.
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yea planning to install those bars but not springs lo...later void my warranty ler...but for now bars should help la...i heard someone installed front strut, rear antiroll and tower bar or something like tat...wat is tower bar?

QUOTE(fr0sti3 @ Mar 12 2012, 11:16 AM)
well if u intend to keep the speedo range & comfort level
go with 205/50/17 or 215/50/17 tires
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wat do u mean by keep speedo range?the odometer will deviate from normal range?comfort can be compromised to a certain extent lo...i know if use bigger tyre profile will cut down the comfort...but it's ok as long as not cut down alot...
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post Mar 12 2012, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(yamasce @ Mar 12 2012, 11:32 AM)
yea planning to install those bars but not springs lo...later void my warranty ler...but for now bars should help la...i heard someone installed front strut, rear antiroll and tower bar or something like tat...wat is tower bar?
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Link between front strut tower. Typically 2 points (of mounting). Depend on car model/make some have 3 and 4 points. Prevent/synchronize sway between front struts.
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post Mar 12 2012, 11:47 AM

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ever consider getting a civic or ford focus?
TSyamasce
post Mar 12 2012, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(watonk @ Mar 12 2012, 11:46 AM)
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Link between front strut tower. Typically 2 points (of mounting). Depend on car model/make some have 3 and 4 points. Prevent/synchronize sway between front struts.
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so tower bar is actually the front strut link?

QUOTE(turbocharged @ Mar 12 2012, 11:47 AM)
ever consider getting a civic or ford focus?
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well i love focus but it's compact car...if it's bigger abit then i will definitely go for it...i heard civic ride is hard no comfortable...
tunasandwich
post Mar 12 2012, 12:09 PM

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you got an Altis d bro?! 2.0 or 1.8 ah? rclxms.gif
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post Mar 12 2012, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(tunasandwich @ Mar 12 2012, 12:09 PM)
you got an Altis d bro?! 2.0 or 1.8 ah?  rclxms.gif
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haha yea...will b driving it soon...hvn't take the car since waiting for next alphabet...1.8G...
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post Mar 12 2012, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(yamasce @ Mar 12 2012, 12:15 PM)
haha yea...will b driving it soon...hvn't take the car since waiting for next alphabet...1.8G...
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lolz congrates on ur new ride biggrin.gif

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