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 Mass Effect 3 Spoiler Edition, Discuss about storyline here.

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hahli9
post Mar 23 2012, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(Grif @ Mar 23 2012, 09:56 AM)
And I was considering buying it the other day. Luckily I remembered I still have to finish two books. sweat.gif
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post Mar 26 2012, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(ray148 @ Mar 26 2012, 09:41 AM)
this is nice read about how terrible the ending is from a writer's point of view. rclxms.gif

http://jmstevenson.wordpress.com/2012/03/2...-mass-effect-3/
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I was waiting for Dragon Ball fusion reference at this part. Hahahaha.
But yes, this is absolutely brilliant. It's what everyone was essentially saying but with more facts and professionalism.
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post Mar 26 2012, 10:56 AM

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Can't believe I just saw this.
Dat jab at bioware at the end. xD
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post Mar 26 2012, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Mar 26 2012, 12:09 PM)
Yes, rEApers...  tongue.gif

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And of course in the end they lost by choosing the Synthesis option. Sigh.
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post Mar 26 2012, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Mar 26 2012, 10:39 PM)
I stopped listening to them after the C&C Tiberian Twilight fiasco. What a disaster that was. An abomination.
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post Mar 27 2012, 03:47 AM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Mar 27 2012, 12:08 AM)
Just like Mass Effect 3 too. whistling.gif
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Only the ending was horrible okay. Unlike Tiberium Twilight. That game was downright horrible. whistling.gif
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post Mar 27 2012, 07:55 PM

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Pressure from EA to release the game ASAP.
They already delayed once, EA's not gonna let them delay again.
The sad part about all this is in the end only EA wins.
If the indoctrination theory were true and Bioware releases it, then there won't be responses of that's brilliant or that's amazing. It'll just be, "Yeah, we knew that all along."
ME3 would be the game that could have been but did not become.
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post Mar 28 2012, 03:05 AM

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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Mar 28 2012, 02:17 AM)

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Fix'd.
And omg, hahaha holy shit this is funny. xD

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post Mar 28 2012, 11:51 AM

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Oh, and apparently the cupcakes are pretty darn good.

http://splodinator.com/just-how-good-are-t...aded-to-bioware

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post Mar 29 2012, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(lyn_grayskale @ Mar 28 2012, 11:36 PM)
not necessarily - the future of gaming may be - gamer funded projects -
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/postud...a-reed-thriller
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Not happening lol. With games on a massive scale like Mass Effect and the likes, it will cost way more to develop than the measly 5 digit kickstarters you see now. Kickstarters will work with indie games but not with AAA games. Furthermore, ever considered what would happen if an unethical developer starts using kickstarter? Yeah...

After all, businesses are profit-motivated. As long as a plan works, they'll keep doing it. They keep pushing DLCs because they are getting more profits from doing it. You have to give them a reason to stop doing it otherwise it will go on and it will get worse.
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post Mar 29 2012, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Mar 29 2012, 01:11 AM)
what do u mean not working?
Wasteland 2 collected over 1.5M dollars in funding already backed by so many major industry icons...

in case u dunno, wasteland was the main inspiration between games like the fallout series...

the start of kickstarter basically means the end for the need of a publisher thus giving the developers full control over the game...


Added on March 29, 2012, 1:12 am^ added source for wasteland 2 http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/24/wastelan...coming-to-os-x/


Added on March 29, 2012, 1:25 amAsura's wrath having ending DLC lolx
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/122/122180..._source=twitter
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Welp, I stand corrected. Never heard of Wasteland 2. And Double Fine at 3million too. I'm really impressed. But I don't think this can last in the long run. As Kickstarter becomes more popular and people start donating more, we all essentially become investors and in the end there will be very little post-production profit. As in, everyone who wants the game will donate to get the game. Then very little people will actually buy it once it's released. I can see new companies using this to get started but I don't see how it can work in the long run.


Also, relevant.
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post Mar 29 2012, 04:36 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Mar 29 2012, 01:54 AM)
These are well respected titles by established developers... If u are an old school gamer, u would identify most of them. Even Razer (Min Liang) donated to Wasteland 2's project... Publishers do get a big cut of earnings, thus removing publishers totally from whole business concept is a win-win for both the developers and gamers... as for buying the game, if u are a great fan of a series which wants a sequel or something, you will definitely get it... and prices will be lower than having publishers into the equation as well don't you think so?

Still waiting for the sequel to Planescape to be kickstarted if the guy is interested...
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Well that's exactly the point I'm trying to make, people who know them will donate and get the game for free once it releases. People who are interested will donate and get the game for free once it releases. The problem I'm seeing here is once it actually releases there won't be many people left who'd want to buy it since those who wanted it would've already donated and hence there's a total lack of post-production revenue. And companies that use Kickstarter to start up projects would rely on word of mouth to get donations. So, essentially everyone interested in the game would donate and those who already have the game probably wouldn't buy it again once it releases right? I really can't fathom how this will work in the long run. :\ Idk, only time will tell.
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post Mar 29 2012, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Mar 29 2012, 09:34 AM)
I dont really like the idea of kickstarter as people will have this "entitlement" mentality where they have paid for the game and the game has to be in a desirable way to them. If the game turn out to something else, like Double Fine's new game is not exactly a traditional point and click adventure game. People will be pissed at Double Fine. It's pretty much a dangerous route to take, especially you have other people's money before the project starts.

I am in the Project CARS pre-alpha, where i paid 10 Euro to be a member on the team, where i can post suggestions and such. On the massive team, people has been suggesting wildly different ideas. Some wants the game closer to GT5 or Forza 4, while some wants it to be something like rFactor. It sort of feels like crowd sourcing doesnt really work in practise as everyone has a different idea on how the game should be.

Still, i do not really have a firm idea on how kickstarter works, as does donators have any influence on the game? If they dont, it might be a lot better but the entitlement problem pops up again.

On the money they have collected, i think it might be enough for an indie game, as indie games like Bastion took 2 million plus to build, while Sins of Solar Empire took 800k. For a triple A game, i doubt thats enough, as even recycled content game like CoD needs about 40 million while games like Witcher 2 or Mass Effect 3 will require even more money. I think Double Fine did say Psychonaunts 2 needs about 10 to 14 million to develop.

Still i would want to see a kickstarter project to revive Freespace 3 or Freelancer 2. I'll pay for that, if they are doing an action based space shooting game, not something like X3 where its just too difficult to play.
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Kickstarter is simply a website for companies/individuals to hold donation drives for whatever they want. The companies/individuals most likely will have different reward tiers depending on how much you donate, like for Auditorium: Duet, I donated 30USD so I'm getting a shirt and the game.
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post Mar 29 2012, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Mar 29 2012, 07:52 PM)
Just finish replay on ME1

I concluded that Sovereign is the only one true reaper
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You live because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it!

I really don't see why they needed to give the Reapers a reason to destroy. They should have just kept the Reapers as this menacing threat that you needed to overcome. No one needs to know why they do it or where they came from.

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post Mar 30 2012, 07:04 AM

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QUOTE(ray148 @ Mar 30 2012, 04:25 AM)
lol...this is funny...someone in bioware forum posted this 2 years ago...

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http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/105/index/970146/1
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rclxms.gif Bioware combined both of those just to troll that guy.

So. You know those 400 cupcakes? Bioware donated them to a local youth shelter. Good show good show.

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post Apr 1 2012, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Apr 1 2012, 03:15 PM)
Just so you know

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/games/supplydepot/

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Still a better ending than ME3.
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post Apr 2 2012, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(Spiritviper @ Apr 2 2012, 12:39 AM)
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Blizzard: 1, Bioware: 0

Who needs the Crucible when we can have the Supply Depot
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I see they also took a jab at ME3's multiplayer and pre-order unlockables too  biggrin.gif
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I think the hats is more TF2. tongue.gif
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post Apr 2 2012, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(Fhaarkas @ Apr 2 2012, 05:45 AM)
Finally finished the game. The boy changed my mind about destroying Reapers. I wanted to save everyone, I didn't want to destroy the Geth, and I fully expected Shepard to die so it was an easy choice. Plus transcending into a god-like entity is not such a bad deal. And then I found out about Indoctrination Theory.

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I was kinda worried there about the ending. What with all the ruckus and all. Was not quite as bad as I expected, though I can see why it doesn't appeal to many people (see - 'it'). I'm fine with the ending plot, but I think the execution is poorly done. It just doesn't have that epic feeling of an ending worthy of such a long game. Suffice to say, mind not blown. Decent, but nowhere near the level of Red Dead, MGS4 or even KOTOR II and I expected better. If the Indoctrination Theory is true, then this is the biggest twist ever in games I've played. Bloody hell, I'd put it in the same club with the twist of film Memento, Inception, Usual Suspects, The Prestige and Fight Club.
BTW is this posted here yet? I can't find it within the last 10 pages. Worth a read if you haven't.

Mass Effect 3 writer allegedly slams controversial ending
Which explains the wacky final scene.
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Hah, oh man I really didn't like the ending of Memento. I get that's it's the master plan of the guy and it all actually worked out in the end but... Man, after finishing it I was just... Maybe you're supposed to feel like that I dunno. But I just figured the whole thing out before the plan was revealed I guess that's why there was no oh shit moment for me or something lol. In any case I'm gonna watch Usual Suspects soon and hope that turns out brilliant, it sounds like the show I thought Memento would be haha. This is so off topic. xD
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post Apr 2 2012, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Fhaarkas @ Apr 2 2012, 09:26 AM)
more off-topic - I wouldn't put too much hope for Usual Suspects to mindfucuk you. The film was damn good for its time, but the status nowadays is more like a Scream for thrillers. It's more in the level of Se7en instead of Memento or Inception. I'd watch it for the reputation alone though  laugh.gif . BTW are we talking about the same Memento here? I can't seem to recall any kind of master plan...
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I confused Memento with Se7en! HAHAHAHA. I'll watch Memento later!
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post Apr 3 2012, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(Fhaarkas @ Apr 2 2012, 08:53 PM)
btw where's the discussion here? bored already?
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Every attempt by me to incite discussion on the Indoctrination Theory was shot down by, "Bioware just messed up the ending. End of story. Stop feeding that shit down our throats." ~_~

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