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 AS1M/ASM/ASW2020/ASN/ASB and other PNB funds V3, lending your money to the government

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wil-i-am
post Aug 19 2013, 09:27 AM

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Noted ASW2020 will be suspended from 25/8 to 1/9 for announcement
Any one know when ASNB will make the announcement?
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post Aug 19 2013, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 19 2013, 09:30 AM)
last yr it was on 28 aug... cross your fingers
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Do u think they will announce 'Special' dividend similar to ASM dis year 6.50% + 0.30%?
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post Aug 19 2013, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Aug 19 2013, 09:42 AM)
1 question bro. i hope that you could answer me. if OPR increase and BLR increase, would the dividend in ASB most likely be increased too?
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Yes, as the current investment in money market/repo/etc will enjoy slight higher returns
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post Aug 19 2013, 10:46 AM

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Extract from ASNB latest master prospectus for ASW2020:-

Approved fund size : 16.615 bil units
In circulation : 15.85 bil unit

Assume they declare 6.80% dividend, a total of 1.07 bil units must be issue
Add to existing in circulation = 16.9278 bil units, alredy exceeds approved fund size

Did ASNB announce d increase in approved fund size for ASW2020?
Otherwise they need to declare 4.82% dividend in order not to xceed approved fund size
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post Aug 19 2013, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 19 2013, 11:16 AM)
this is 1 of the reason the fund size keep increasing per year. but this is not the "increase" size, so, no new investment is allow given that all the extra size is full filled by the interest....
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I understand right now no new investment is allow (even though RM1.00)
But my Question is not answer yet
wil-i-am
post Aug 19 2013, 01:37 PM

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Predict ASNB will issue a Supplementary Prospectus (SP) by dis month
The SP will be posted in their website
In d SP, one of the agenda should be d increase in approved fund size for ASW2020 from 16.615 bil units to xx.xxx bil units
The rationale for d increase is to cater for d eventual units in circulation (after Div on 1/9/2013) as d current approved fund size is not enuf if ASNB declare Dividend of 6.60% (assume same as Yr 2012)
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post Aug 19 2013, 05:07 PM

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I know d non-Bumi funds for ASW2020, ASM n AS1M have been fully subscribed
Did anyone manage to top up non-Bumi ASW2020, ASM n AS1M via maybank2u.com (try luck in case someone withdraw)?
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post Aug 19 2013, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 19 2013, 09:12 PM)
Me and you also got brows.gif
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U r so lucky
Whenever I ask, they said finish cry.gif

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post Aug 20 2013, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Aug 20 2013, 07:51 AM)
I got is ASM...

U working? If yes, than very hard.... because now I free, so line open (0915) i ad in post office. Try and try only... normally will got 50-100MYR per day if lucky....
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U stay hold day at POS?
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post Aug 20 2013, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(navink @ Aug 20 2013, 09:23 AM)
no method but it is pure luck.. another way of topping up money is the day or the day after they declare the dividend. for sure got people withdraw their dividend money.
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R u going on 2/9/2013 to update ASW2020 passbook for Dividend + Top up?
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post Aug 20 2013, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(navink @ Aug 20 2013, 10:44 AM)
will ask my father to update it.. as he got few account with ASNB.. AS1M, ASW2020..
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Previously 3rd party can buy/update for u
Now 3rd party no more. Unless, u sign a specific form giving authorization to 3rd party
Very mah fan
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post Aug 20 2013, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(navink @ Aug 20 2013, 10:58 AM)
last week i update ASB book for my wife at post office without authorization / indemnity letter.
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U r lucky lol
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post Aug 20 2013, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Aug 20 2013, 11:22 AM)
You tried before over the counter?

I also found such information in the website..

More or less, really giving me some headache also because normally my gf help me to try bank in into the AS1M or ASM account.

Seems like i have to initiate Plan B to bank in money into the account..

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Nope
Yo gf so kind wo. She never ask u y dun top-up her own a/c instead of u meh?
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post Aug 20 2013, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 20 2013, 03:07 PM)
don't tell to people, then they "sapu all" at PM or ASNB branch  brows.gif

Just joking  biggrin.gif
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Bro, u top up everyday?
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post Aug 20 2013, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 20 2013, 03:04 PM)
RM 316,158.79 in ASW2020 thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif

Maybe "someone" saw at this thread says Bumi quota still available, He/She faster2 go & "sapu" all the units  smile.gif
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Wow, u have so much $$$
U take how many months/years to reach dis level?
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post Aug 20 2013, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 20 2013, 03:20 PM)
It's NOT ME.

It's Lucifah asw2020 passbook balance
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How u know?
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post Aug 20 2013, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Aug 20 2013, 04:25 PM)
it's not mine. rather, it's one of the investments accounts that i manage for some clients  wink.gif

i'm now seriously contemplating to port all money from ASB to AS1M (hopefully still available) and do a full ASB loan (up to 400k)

still doing some simulations and will consider the best tenure period and loan amount needed

by my rough calculations,

1. loan interest rate: BLR (6.6%) - 1.65% = 4.95%
2. ASBRTA - ASB reducing term assurance = RM 1,200 per 100k loan (assumption)
3. effective interest rate (include ASBRTA) = 5.15% (assume the ASBRTA takes another 0.2% interest)

ASB Dividend: 7.75% (2012)
AS1M Dividend: 6.6% (2012)

Nett return: 7.75% + 6.6% - 5.15% = 9.2%

that is EXCLUSIVE of ASB bonus...

let me think and present this to my client within these few weeks. thinking of doing this and disburse the loand and transfer the money on 01 October 2013 (Tuesday) and maximise on full year dividend

or should i try to put it in Tabung Haji savings? it gave out 6.5% (dividend) + 1.5% special bonus for 2012, giving account holders a nett 8.0% return...
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Can non-Bumi open a/c with Tabung Haji?
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post Aug 20 2013, 05:09 PM

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Plan to open a/c for ASG to capitalize on 2% service charge + today market performance (down 33 points)
Which 1 is good - Pendidikan/Kesihatan/Persaraan?
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post Aug 20 2013, 06:49 PM

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When top up at PM/ASNB, need to bring cash
If not successful, need to carry cash back home which is a bit risky
Does PM/ASNB accept other mode of pymt besides cash?
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post Aug 20 2013, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(500Kmission @ Aug 20 2013, 10:28 PM)
you all are talking about top up only from beginning till now? i thought someone got luck to open account in asnb for non-bumi.
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Yes
Open new account take at least 10-15 minutes
The initial investment/top up sum depends on timing

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