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jackyap84
post Mar 13 2012, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 13 2012, 01:13 PM)
shocking.gif Extreme leh. Like 1 year do at least 6 times.

BTW,  bday.gif to KKW.  cheers.gif
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO KKW
dorinyeah
post Mar 13 2012, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Mar 13 2012, 01:09 PM)
X-1R for me is useless..
Can feel the effect on the beginning then back to normal.. 
Bang those mat rempit  flex.gif
It's very hard to find a good alignment service now days..
Last time I need do my alignment every 1-2months but finally I found one at puchong..
No need do any alignment after 2months liao smile.gif
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Go Pudu la... have a nice one there...
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post Mar 13 2012, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Mar 13 2012, 12:57 PM)
already accident, cannot do nothing about it. Just send to SC fix. If u got NCD 55%...say bye bye to it.
I know how it feel, new car get bang.
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What is NCD bro?
muslayer
post Mar 13 2012, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(MG4 @ Mar 13 2012, 02:13 PM)
What is NCD bro?
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NO Claim Discount,..
MG4
post Mar 13 2012, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Mar 13 2012, 02:22 PM)
NO Claim Discount,..
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That means?
SUSVincentChen
post Mar 13 2012, 02:31 PM

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means if you never claim insurance, your insurnce will get discount every year, stacking up to 55%
muslayer
post Mar 13 2012, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(MG4 @ Mar 13 2012, 02:26 PM)
That means?
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Is a insurance Discount things, if u are a new driver and this is ur new car, then ur NCD start with 0% , the longer u drive , the more NCD % u get, the cheaper u get when u renew ur insurance every year if u never claim any from the insurance company.
max is 55%

KKW
post Mar 13 2012, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 13 2012, 01:13 PM)
shocking.gif Extreme leh. Like 1 year do at least 6 times.

BTW,  bday.gif to KKW.  cheers.gif
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Noob people doing alignment ma.. what to do.. doh.gif
Anyway, thanks bro smile.gif

QUOTE(muslayer @ Mar 13 2012, 01:15 PM)
Happy Birthday to KKW .
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Thanks bro smile.gif

QUOTE(mosh @ Mar 13 2012, 01:19 PM)
happy birthday KKW
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Thanks bro and for the "present" whistling.gif

QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Mar 13 2012, 01:31 PM)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO KKW
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Thanks bro smile.gif

QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Mar 13 2012, 01:45 PM)
Go Pudu la... have a nice one there...
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I know that.. Got people recommend here before but forget who liao..
Quite far from my place.. hmm.gif

muslayer
post Mar 13 2012, 02:36 PM

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Old Klang road got 1 famous alignment shop...near the BHP petrol station.

Cavino
post Mar 13 2012, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(KKW @ Mar 13 2012, 01:09 PM)
X-1R for me is useless..
Can feel the effect on the beginning then back to normal.. 
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"From the MSDS for X1R it states that its main active ingredient is Chlorinated Paraffin, this is the same stuff that has got Duralube in trouble.. trouble being when Chlorinated Paraffin�s are exposed to high temperature (at even lower temperatures then you can expect in the engine) they break down to hydrochloric acid which consumes other standard beneficial additives in the engine oil such as VI improvers etc and turns the whole shooting match acidic.. leaving the engine unprotected and eating away at the seals."

In another word, Chlorinated Paraffin works BUT not for high temperature usage. Unfortunately ALL engine falls into high temperature category....in another word "might" have short term improvement AND very bad for the engine life...

Other reports on ANY and ALL oil addictives

Ed Hackett, chemist at the University of Nevada Desert Research Center, says, "Oil additives should not be used. The oil companies have gone to great lengths to develop an additive pack age that meets the vehicle's requirements. If you add anything to this oil you may upset the balance and prevent the oil from performing to specification."

There were at least 2 companies that used clorinated parrafins in oil supplements. Both of those companies were fined by the FTC for false advertising. The stuff can work at first but there are issues with accelerated wear over time. The oil companies apparently tested this stuff a very long time ago and rejected clorinated parrafins as oil additives a long time ago.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Mar 13 2012, 02:40 PM
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post Mar 13 2012, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Mar 13 2012, 02:33 PM)
Is a insurance Discount things, if u are a new driver and this is ur new car, then ur NCD start with 0% , the longer u drive , the more NCD % u get, the cheaper u get when u renew ur insurance every year  if u never claim any from the insurance company.
max is 55%
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Oh ok, i understand.. thanks man
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post Mar 13 2012, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(VincentChen @ Mar 13 2012, 02:31 PM)
means if you never claim insurance, your insurnce will get discount every year, stacking up to 55%
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I think someone is using bear bear account and type stuff that finally make sense...either that or bear bear pay someone to type sifu level stuff for him to make himself looks good....
KKW
post Mar 13 2012, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 13 2012, 02:39 PM)
"From the MSDS for X1R it states that its main active ingredient is Chlorinated Paraffin, this is the same stuff that has got Duralube in trouble.. trouble being when Chlorinated Paraffin�s are exposed to high temperature (at even lower temperatures then you can expect in the engine) they break down to hydrochloric acid which consumes other standard beneficial additives in the engine oil such as VI improvers etc and turns the whole shooting match acidic.. leaving the engine unprotected and eating away at the seals."

In another word, Chlorinated Paraffin works BUT not for high temperature usage. Unfortunately ALL engine falls into high temperature category....in another word "might" have short term improvement AND very bad for the engine life...

Other reports on ANY and ALL oil addictives

Ed Hackett, chemist at the University of Nevada Desert Research Center, says, "Oil additives should not be used. The oil companies have gone to great lengths to develop an additive pack age that meets the vehicle's requirements. If you add anything to this oil you may upset the balance and prevent the oil from performing to specification."

There were at least 2 companies that used clorinated parrafins in oil supplements. Both of those companies were fined by the FTC for false advertising. The stuff can work at first but there are issues with accelerated wear over time. The oil companies apparently tested this stuff a very long time ago and rejected clorinated parrafins as oil additives a long time ago.
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I only use once because I din saw this was include on service list
hen I saw he pour it and it's to late ask him stop doh.gif
That time should be my 15k service..


Added on March 13, 2012, 2:53 pm
QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 13 2012, 02:43 PM)
I think someone is using bear bear account and type stuff that finally make sense...either that or bear bear pay someone to type sifu level stuff for him to make himself looks good....
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His mother work as insurance agent ma..

This post has been edited by KKW: Mar 13 2012, 02:53 PM
huat0823
post Mar 13 2012, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 13 2012, 02:43 PM)
I think someone is using bear bear account and type stuff that finally make sense...either that or bear bear pay someone to type sifu level stuff for him to make himself looks good....
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because bear bear mom is ING Agent?
haur
post Mar 13 2012, 02:56 PM

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my CP got 6 holes! Good or bad?
Fubar20
post Mar 13 2012, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 13 2012, 02:39 PM)
"From the MSDS for X1R it states that its main active ingredient is Chlorinated Paraffin, this is the same stuff that has got Duralube in trouble.. trouble being when Chlorinated Paraffin�s are exposed to high temperature (at even lower temperatures then you can expect in the engine) they break down to hydrochloric acid which consumes other standard beneficial additives in the engine oil such as VI improvers etc and turns the whole shooting match acidic.. leaving the engine unprotected and eating away at the seals."

In another word, Chlorinated Paraffin works BUT not for high temperature usage. Unfortunately ALL engine falls into high temperature category....in another word "might" have short term improvement AND very bad for the engine life...

Other reports on ANY and ALL oil addictives

Ed Hackett, chemist at the University of Nevada Desert Research Center, says, "Oil additives should not be used. The oil companies have gone to great lengths to develop an additive pack age that meets the vehicle's requirements. If you add anything to this oil you may upset the balance and prevent the oil from performing to specification."

There were at least 2 companies that used clorinated parrafins in oil supplements. Both of those companies were fined by the FTC for false advertising. The stuff can work at first but there are issues with accelerated wear over time. The oil companies apparently tested this stuff a very long time ago and rejected clorinated parrafins as oil additives a long time ago.
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hmm.gif Links mana? Want to check it out.


Added on March 13, 2012, 3:00 pm
QUOTE(KKW @ Mar 13 2012, 02:53 PM)

Added on March 13, 2012, 2:53 pm

His mother work as insurance agent ma..
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QUOTE(huat0823 @ Mar 13 2012, 02:54 PM)
because bear bear mom is ING Agent?
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hmm.gif Long time now oredi lo, his mum work as insurance agent. Look at his siggy.

This post has been edited by Fubar20: Mar 13 2012, 03:01 PM
shelby_yong
post Mar 13 2012, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(haur @ Mar 13 2012, 02:56 PM)
my CP got 6 holes! Good or bad?
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talak baik
KKW
post Mar 13 2012, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 13 2012, 02:58 PM)
hmm.gif Links mana? Want to check it out.


Added on March 13, 2012, 3:00 pm

hmm.gif Long time now oredi lo, his mum work as insurance agent. Look at his siggy.
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I notice that since he here.. He post big big scare people can't see tongue.gif

This post has been edited by KKW: Mar 13 2012, 03:04 PM
Fubar20
post Mar 13 2012, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(haur @ Mar 13 2012, 02:56 PM)
my CP got 6 holes! Good or bad?
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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Mar 13 2012, 03:02 PM)
talak baik
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Not record yet. K.Lee got 7 and he had been using LCP for 9 months liao.
hmm.gif Maybe it is time to explode?

This post has been edited by Fubar20: Mar 13 2012, 03:05 PM
Cavino
post Mar 13 2012, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 13 2012, 02:58 PM)
hmm.gif Links mana? Want to check it out.


Added on March 13, 2012, 3:00 pm

hmm.gif Long time now oredi lo, his mum work as insurance agent. Look at his siggy.
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Oh...forgot abt his mum. Aha...no wonder sound so confident....his forte.

Oh...the link. The first paragraph is a respond from Autochild (2005) in AW forum. The other, go read this...very good report ler...

http://www.fordscorpio.co.uk/snakeoil.htm

The last paragraph from a post in Bob is the Oil Guy

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"Consider this: Most gear lubes used to contain chlorinated compounds but was removed because of the corrosion problems associated with it, and with the environmental/biohazards associated with it as well. Gearlubes now have additives contain a mild potassium borate additve and or a PZS additive with a basing compound."

"Chorinated Parafins are real tough on copper bushings, with out a specialized copper corrosion inhibitor as well. The corrosion protection is almost always depleted within a normal oil change interval. A very short term performance gain. A definite long term disaster. The reaction with ferrous metals is ferrous chloride, under heat and pressure."

Short term gain....long term damage...

This post has been edited by Cavino: Mar 13 2012, 03:17 PM

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