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altan
post Mar 8 2016, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 6 2016, 07:37 PM)
Check out @altan salepage here https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3843739# i think he offer services for assembling and calibration for rm500 fee. If you from kuching then i can help biggrin.gif
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Thanks for the recommendation Prosperer notworthy.gif

QUOTE(Drian @ Mar 8 2016, 09:57 AM)
Does anyone know where to get PETG filament? From what I read,

It is stronger than both PLA and ABS.
Minimal shrinkage which means larger print parts can be used.
Extrusion temp around 240c and 70-75C bed/ non heated bead
means it's not as taxing as printing abs and closer to PLA.

Thinking of using this to print my printer parts once it's done as PLA doesn't last.
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Other than Taulman Tech G filament, I can pay a visit to my filament supplier in Singapore for PETG filaments. They are selling 1 kg spools of PETG for SGD 80. Refer here: http://web.qwikfab.com/3D-Printer-Filament/Q-PETG-Filament . You could order from them directly but I recently they are busy with some projects so there will be some delay in shipping. If you order from them, let them know altan recommended them. Since I am making a trip to SG tonight, I could purchase a spool for you when I am there but I will charge an inconvenience fee. Let me know ASAP.
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post Mar 8 2016, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Mar 8 2016, 09:19 PM)
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sorry for late reply
keep forgetting to take picture
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Looks like it is printable, just need someone to design it and someone to 3D print it in ABS.
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post Mar 8 2016, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Mar 8 2016, 09:40 PM)
too bad you dont have 3d scan

If not i will just direct mail it to you for duplicate it ><
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Actually I have a 3D scanner, its an Intel Realsense camera but it's only good for head scan. It can do object scans but if the object is small then a lot of fine features are missing. It's good for getting the general shape but any 3D scans will still require some form of editing. Currently not opening the scanning service to public yet.

I don't mind duplicating the part for you but there will be a long delay since currently my printer is heavily utilized and I am on a short business trip for the entire week. rclxub.gif
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post Mar 8 2016, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Mar 8 2016, 10:42 PM)
Time not really an issue been searching part for few week

don't mind waiting longer

I can draw cad but i nvr draw 3d one

Time dig up the tutorial

Dam it been few year i didn't draw cad
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biggrin.gif having to design in 3D is one thing but have to consider designing the model for a 3D printing.

Stuff like this I would use solid modelling software like openscad or solidworks.

You might want to find some .scad files for gears at Thingiverse. It will really help speed things up when making gear parts.
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post Mar 9 2016, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 9 2016, 03:51 PM)
No problem bro.

And here rough design i made for the gear,

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and how do you made the attach pic small here  :confused:
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That is fast biggrin.gif

As for your question, see post #10 in https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1403940/all

I tried BBcode for IMG resize buy don't seem to work.
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post Mar 11 2016, 02:31 PM

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Hi everyone, I just bought a few reels of PETG filament (black and white color) and if anyone wants to try a small sample you can PM me for it.

I am selling them for RM 15 per 50g, can request for larger amount.

COD at Tropicana City Mall or Poslaju for additional RM 6.

I will show you guys some PETG prints once I optimized my 3D printer for it.

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post Mar 12 2016, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(izzudinhafiz @ Mar 12 2016, 02:15 AM)
Any benefit of PETG versus ABS or PLA?
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PETG has higher working temp than PLA and does not warp compared to ABS. Apparently, it is claimed that it takes the best properties of both PLA and ABS while having high strength and flexibility.

You can read more about it by searching about Taulman Tech-G PETG filaments. There are some blogs and 3d news saying good things about it.
http://3d-printizer.com/blog/?p=268
http://3dprintingindustry.com/2015/10/30/t...ilament-tech-g/

I heard it is easier to print like PLA as compared to nylon and ABS but I have not tried them yet since I just got the filaments yesterday. So, I can't comment further on a material I just got but I have seen really impressive samples made with PETG.

Only cons is the difficult support removal.

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post Mar 14 2016, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(izzudinhafiz @ Mar 14 2016, 02:10 PM)
ooh. maybe soon. im working on a dual extruder setup for my prusa to allow soluble supports. Maybe then.
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Using HIPS or PVA for soluble support?
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post Mar 14 2016, 04:31 PM

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I have ideas of trying out dissolvable filaments but could not find a local supplier for both materials.

I don't know about printing in PVA but it is said PVA is really difficult to store due to the hygroscopic property, especially in our humid environment. Since support material not need to be nice but I wonder what the humidity can do to the material. Maybe it will cause the PVA to spit water vapour during prints.

It would be great support with PLA and Flexible filaments since they droop during prints. ABS bridging seems good without fan for me so I doubt it needs dissolvable support.

About storing filaments, I had issues with storing black ABS as it forms pores on the print surface due to water vapour. Apparently the black pigment is the cause as the pigment is hygroscopic. I have to bake the black ABS in an oven for a few hours just to improve the print quality.
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post Mar 14 2016, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(izzudinhafiz @ Mar 14 2016, 04:44 PM)
i have a humidity chamber for my DSLRs. i've been keeping my filaments in there! they work great in stopping moisture ingress. you shud try getting a cheap one smile.gif
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Good suggestion, now need to clear some space and find one cheap one. smile.gif I thought of making a dry box using an array of thirsty hippo.
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post Mar 15 2016, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Mar 15 2016, 09:25 AM)
Do post a review.
Will probably need it when I'm done with the whole prototype.

Just finished my XY axis and now moving to Z axis.
Problem with hiwin rails is that there are not many designs out there using it and therefore have to design myself and I can't leech on anyone's design
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Definitely will put a short review about PETG. Currently can't find the time to experiment with it now. tongue.gif

QUOTE(Drian @ Mar 15 2016, 09:27 AM)
Wouldn't it be easier just to use those vacuum bag from daiso and put it together with the thirsty hippo. Use the vacuum cleaner to suck the air out. No air , no chance for any moisture to get in.
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I have tried using vacuum bags and its quite effective for long term storage. Though it requires vacuuming every few months just to maintain the vacuum but the plastic material is very fragile. It easily gets punctured after vacuum due to poor handling and sharp edges in the bag. That's why the vacuum bags are designed for clothes and soft material. I have to be very careful with the bags and breaking vacuum several times just to get one spool out of half a dozen isn't very convenient.

I have not tried thirsty hippo in vacuum but would be great if I can find a large vacuum seal box for it. biggrin.gif

I think the moisture would be pulled out of the drying agent in vacuum.
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post Mar 15 2016, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 15 2016, 01:26 PM)
14hrs printing with abs without bottom wrapping  smile.gif  really proud with my printer right now and it my first time printing something that take that long  thumbup.gif

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Really nice print there! drool.gif Is that a scanned model or hand modeled?

Your heated bed must have been set really high to minimize the warping. Does not appear to have used brim which I have to use in all my ABS print to prevent warping. hmm.gif

Your 3D printer is enclosed in a box or was it printed in the open?

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post Mar 15 2016, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 15 2016, 05:16 PM)
That is my customer uncle that he design i dont know with what program, he even show me the picture, and i glad it look the same thumbup.gif

i set my heated bed 110C usually i print abs around 100-110C for longer print i choose 110C

my printer is open and i just block the back, upper and side with cardbox doh.gif
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That uncle must be a pro at modeling or he got someone to design it for him.

Lucky you can manage 110C unlike mine which maxes out to 90C in a really hot and unventilated room. sweat.gif

laugh.gif I would have also thought of using cardboard as cover and heat insulator...
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post Mar 15 2016, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 15 2016, 06:33 PM)
hahaha, i meant that the guy create the model is using zbrush( or something brush) if im not mistaken and he create his uncle 3d model for me to print rclxub.gif

I already print 2 design for him and he said there more for me to print  thumbup.gif  and i hope he will become my regular customer

what printer do you use and why limit at 90C only? not enough amp?

edit: and my heat bed setting is cardboard that i wrap with aluminum foil below the heatbed itself in the middle and aluminum or glass platform above i can reach 100C in 5min if i cover all side of my printer except front side
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Should be Zbrush, I don't know how to use that but I heard it's something to do with sculpting.

Good that you are getting regulars thumbsup.gif

It's a Printrbot Simple Metal and the heatbed is a large heat sink causing the heat from the heater plate to disperse everywhere. If the room fan is running, I would max out to about 75C but without it its about 90C. I have a dedicated solid state switch with its own dedicated power supply for the heater bed but the internal resistance is higher compared to the MK2B heter plate. It takes me about 15 min to reach 90C. I thought of covering up with cardboard but my table is too small even for the printer itself. doh.gif
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post Mar 16 2016, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 15 2016, 08:25 PM)
Do you install the heatbed on the pb metal?

i have a problem doh.gif  someone just email me sketchup file and i use freecad for design my project and it can't import skp files, any easy way to convert skp file to stl file?
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The heatbed is an addon, comes with a thicker aluminum bed.

Just like me, go get Sketchup. laugh.gif

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post Mar 16 2016, 03:43 AM

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QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 16 2016, 01:27 AM)
Maybe you should make heated chamber for your printer and of course all the electronic outside, maybe it will take less time and probably will go up to 100C
i already install sketchup with playonlinux but it too buggy so i rarely use it and the files i received earlier didnt even open when i import it, so i ask the sender send me other files with different extension .obj and .dae
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That works too, asking for other file format or just ask for the .stl file directly. Sketchup can export to .stl format after downloading and installing the .stl exporter from their extension warehouse. I wonder why don't they just implement the exporter in Sketchup doh.gif

Finally my next printer is working and giving good result. I have to hack it quite a bit to get it working.

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post Mar 16 2016, 04:46 AM

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QUOTE(izzudinhafiz @ Mar 16 2016, 04:31 AM)
Just a little 3D design quirk that I must share. biggrin.gif There's a reason Sketchup doesnt export stl. STLs are solid data, called NURBS. Sketchup creates polygon meshes. Both of which are not the same thing. Yes you may be able to get away converting SKP to STL sometime. But any difficult or complex shapes may fail to correctly convert.

Just sharing in case you print for 15 hours and discover incorrect geometries. Learned this the hard way when trying to do windtunnel simulations with mesh data converted to STLs. Ended up chasing my own tail for weeks!
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Seems to make sense now but all this time never really notice the difference when I work with Blender and exporting to .stl. biggrin.gif

That is why is always good practice to check the slicer simulation/layer by layer view to make sure prints turn out accordingly.
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post Mar 16 2016, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 16 2016, 04:02 PM)
Congrate  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbsup.gif 

show us the whole printer please

im still waiting for my other parts coming before i can start building
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Going to post the rest of the pictures in Facebook around later in the afternoon. Still editing the pictures to look nice. whistling.gif

Short description, its a clone version of a Makerbot replicator but I am not too happy with the laser cut wooden frames they sent me in the kit. sad.gif

I like the wood feel but the frames are badly warped on important pieces.

Whats your next 3D printer if you don't mind me asking brows.gif


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post Mar 17 2016, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(izzudinhafiz @ Mar 16 2016, 04:37 PM)
Isnt that the problem with wooden frame? Warpage due to moisture. Especially laser cut wood since they're thin. Is acrylic expensive to laser cut?
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Yea, I do expect warping but not to a severe extend. I guess I wasn't lucky enough to get a nice piece. I have seen a wooden flash forge printer and those guys who maintain it was able to print in PC and the frames were not warped.

I am thinking of getting the melamine version which is actually particle board used in making low cost shelves. They claim it has no warpage but I think the strength is questionable. hmm.gif


QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 16 2016, 04:49 PM)
i didnt have a fb account  tongue.gif  can i still viewing it?

i build corexy like this



but a little bit modified on z axis.

at first i also think go for wood frame for cost, but i think wood will do something funny overtime so i decide to go with aluminum frame.
And i'll use acrylic to cover all side after complete the build, my plan is to build the printer slowly because i have so many time to spend to build this printer and watching anime sweat.gif

After that i find someone here in kuching who interest in my i3
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QUOTE(Drian @ Mar 17 2016, 09:56 AM)
Ya don't use wood. Even the aluminium extrusion don't use printed plastic L bracket to join them.
I've seen some people do that. It's pointless having a stiff aluminium profile being joint by some weak plastic.
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I would have gone for the aluminium extrusion/sheet or steel sheet if it was available but for a 450 dollars including shipping and tax, I just can't pass off this deal. tongue.gif

3D printed plastics isn't weak, rather its just flexible compared to metal which makes them not ideal frame/ joints. Acrylic flexes too, that's why I would avoid them for frames if possible. I have printed some U bars with PLA at 80% fill and 8 mm thickness, and these thing doesn't flex much but does twist radially by a lot. I think there must be a design that minimize the twisting effect. They are hard to break because the layers are on the longest length.

QUOTE(Drian @ Mar 17 2016, 01:14 PM)
Noticed from your facebook that you printed using ninjaflex.

Do you think that it would make good motor dampers such as this ?

http://www.ultibots.com/nema-17-damper-astrosyn-my17rmdamp/

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1380368
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Yes I printed flexible fan mounts using FlexPLA and it keeps fan running smooth and quiet. I wouldn't use them on stepper motor since the footing would be loose. I wouldn't recommend Ninjaflex becasue it is very soft and stretchy, it's great for making flexible robot joints or grippy surfaces. FlexPLA is also flexible but much stiffer like rubberized phone cases. I would use that for generally anything and is slightly cheaper and more available than Ninjaflex.

On a side note, the printer I just built is producing wonderful results. I will post some pictures here once I get my spool holder done.
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post Mar 18 2016, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(Prosperer @ Mar 18 2016, 06:45 PM)
anybody here already make MPCNC?
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Nope, you can try but you have to either source for 25mm linear rods or 25 mm aluminum tubes or conduits. biggrin.gif

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