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post Jul 19 2012, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jul 19 2012, 11:59 AM)
i don't think it rides like an actual carbon bike from all aspects of riding... but it definitely beats the entry level carbon and maybe even rival the mid-level ones in terms of stiffness...

canondale was crazy enough to put in the BB30 standard bottom bracket they started into an alloy frame which i believe no manufacturer has done before... this alone should have increased the front to rear torsional stiffness of the frame to match some of the rival carbon frames...

as for lightness... it would most probably kill those carbon frames with poor manufacturing as well...

comfort.. hard to say as aluminum is always known to be harsh on the ride quality...

but all in all.. if looking at race ready performance... i think it's possible that it matches carbon frames.. but you have to first get over the point that it is "not a cheap aluminum bike" in the first place... and most probably going to costs more than an entry level carbon...

i read that a lot of US amateur crit guys run this frame... those bastards are very explosive riders.. so, a CAAD10 can handle their demands says a lot about it's stiffness...
haha... 7.9KG wor... how to not look up... even mine also tak de so light... envious...

dun set your hopes so high la...Zipp and top tier group might not be enough to drop 1.1KG in weight... unless you aiming for 202s paired with Red 2012 and carbonize all your cockpit  whistling.gif
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where can i get poison of titanium frames in Malaysia? the big brands of Ti frames are litespeed?
how much does the frame cost usually?

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobe...champ_ti_09.htm
$1700 for that.. except it's out of stock haha

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post Jul 19 2012, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jul 19 2012, 12:05 PM)
ksh ttdi, lynskey
bikepro, van nicholas

ti major brands many la; lynskey, moots, van nicholas, litespeed, etc

closer to home; http://bikesoul.com/2009/index.php?option=...id=32&Itemid=41
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ok if got time i go get my self poison
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post Jul 19 2012, 12:31 PM

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Those custom Ti frame is around 1500~2000USD each.. hmm looks not too bad but they are only available overseas it appears...

how much does a carbon frame cost?
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post Jul 19 2012, 03:08 PM

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I drop my sunglasses during PD tri.. luckily it's a $10 glasses.. i shud buy $10 glasses only from now on
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post Jul 19 2012, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jul 19 2012, 03:10 PM)
wah... you say like those shades costs lollipops only...

but 1 pair also my testicles kecut adi...
yes... i totally second that... your $ is not USD rite?
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post Jul 19 2012, 03:33 PM

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cant take my eyes off you..
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post Jul 19 2012, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jul 19 2012, 04:08 PM)

better do so quick... or you kena hex...
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post Jul 19 2012, 05:04 PM

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I can buy a Ti bike or two with a month salary in the states.. I need 2 ~ 3 months salary in my to get the same bike, before considering shipping cost from US.

haha.. tht's considering if you have zero expenditure per month.. uh uh.. why all the Ti bike gave such food feedback, no one want to curse Ti bike or what?
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post Jul 19 2012, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jul 19 2012, 06:23 PM)
let's get it... bulk buy time...
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post Jul 19 2012, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jul 19 2012, 06:35 PM)
usually... bulk buy that starts like this never get serious...


Added on July 19, 2012, 6:45 pmOK... let's aim for Lynskey R440.. 6AL-4V titanium...

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Euro 3,990 jeh... bulk buy a lot... maybe 50 euros cheaper...
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OK i am out
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post Jul 20 2012, 04:42 PM

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i get poisoned by my friend to do Triathlon, then after I started, she say she don't want to start cause the sun will cause her to be tanned.. alamak..
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post Jul 20 2012, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(hianboy @ Jul 20 2012, 04:56 PM)
my next question how much?
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post Jul 22 2012, 06:55 PM

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Din know bukit tinggi is so tough.. only 28k cycled around there but felt like my lungs have been worn out haha
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post Jul 23 2012, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(malleus @ Jul 22 2012, 08:17 PM)
The 28km route is still ok. The longer route to the Japanese Tea House is the real killer. Don't think its ridable for road bikes at the steepest points, as the gradient is just too steep, even on the lowest gears. Riding down from that spot on a road bike also got issues. Had ppl telling me of smoke coming out of their brakes.
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the route to japanese Tea House is only 2km, it's the worst 2km I ever ride in my life.
I would rather run than cycle there..

The downhill + straight drain cover = killer for road bike, i almost got caught inside there..

while i am going down.. have to use drop bar to break, even then it feels not good enuff, still 30k+..

The loop is only 24k right? another 4k is to pay RM12 to get to colmar


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QUOTE(nlik @ Jul 22 2012, 11:35 PM)
But we all can buy Tissot/Certina Titanium watches for less than RM2000.
I also think 170 is expensive for this, if we're comparing Penang bridge full marathon which only costs RM80. But then.. that's a half marathon split between a bike ride.  I think it's gonna hurt after transition from bike to the 2nd run! I'll skip this
On a different topic, Shimano Tiagra brake pads are not effective enough especially in the wet/rain. Did Shimano think that Tiagra users won't reach xxx km/h and hence fitted it will less grippy pads?
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well it's different la, it's not distance a lot than make up duathlon fun.. but Rm170 memang expensive..


Shimano thinks tiagra user's life cost less..


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I lost my cadence Magnet on my medal.. I am not sure what's the thing call, any idea how to get the replacement? looks like it snapped during PD tri.. just detected it's missing after 2 weeks...

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post Jul 23 2012, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(malleus @ Jul 23 2012, 09:30 AM)
That's why I don't bother trying to ride down from the tea house. the gradient is too steep, especially after ppl encountered smoke from their brakes smile.gif
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/cateye...magnet-ec035841

I guess you can check around the different bike shops asking them for it. there are spares being sold. And any magnet will do. I've been mixing magnets between cateye, topeak and sigma all this time.
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You were there yesterday? did you recognise me? I should be the fattest with a white focus Bike.

I think I have to ask around for the magnets. I din even know the magnet drop out, too concentrated during the race, i know cadence was lacking but i never bother to look through it during races..

QUOTE(butthead @ Jul 23 2012, 09:41 AM)
i though bukit tinggi is only 12k? but i only know 1 way up from the karak highway and i never seen the japanese village before the 2 times i went.. jus reach the T-junction and pusing balik...
smoke... that is too much... i have never seen smoke before even on repeated hard braking zones...
to be fair... even expensive pads can have very poor wet weather performance.. brake pads are always a balance between 3 things

1) pad wear / rim wear
2) performance in both stopping power and modulation
3) wet performance

pad wear and rim wear is often heading in opposite direction... where often one is good, the other one suffers....

i use Zipp Platinum Tangente on alloy rims and i can say even those don't enable me to brake late in wet conditions...

if you ride in rain a lot... i suggest you invest in a pair of wet or all weather pads... i have used koolstop pad inserts in the past quite succesfully... not exactly cheap but also not as expensive as zipp or swiss stop pads... they have dual compounds to assist in different weather conditions and a slightly thicker rear end of the pads so you don't need to toe in the pads to reduce brake squeels....

it's a very old brand but hard to find them nowadays... or at least i could not get them after i wore my last pair down...
wah.... that interests me all of a sudden
your computer brand will usually sell replacement units... worst case if not... other brand magnets should work as well... i know sigma would have quite some replacement parts made available... but might be too far for you to travel to KH Cycle to get em... better call and check up first and see if the magnet is around the same size as yours?
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Garmin replacement magnet is 10USD each, not sure if it is selling in Malaysia

It's not mean for cycling i think the last 2 KM, i ended up pushing my bike up, it's faster that way haha...

http://www.trainingpeaks.com/av/FZM44TUGY2K7HQ4MIRRJRZCIRY
Elevation and map if you are interested

QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jul 23 2012, 11:32 AM)
Shimano as the bright side???

Tri Suit? FULL tri suit for Powerman? oh no! i dont want to spend any extra on cloths! this is borthering me!

got people run with compression tight and wear extra layer cycling bib for bike leg, and take off after cycling? my time spend for changing cycling bib can make up by cycling faster which i'm able to do so. wahahaha....

oh yeah... if im joining, i'm going to do that!
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I wear tri-pants and race provided Tee shirt during my previous short duathlon.
You can do with cycling pants too, but mine looks a been to saggy and my pants keep falling off when i run. so i don wanna be caught on the camera for that..

Tri-pants main advantage is the swim part which is not too important in powerman i guess

QUOTE(joonming @ Jul 23 2012, 12:06 PM)
2XU the garden ada sales...  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
Get your Rudy as well to the event , you will look macho and high chance get your bedminton partner there

Poison added
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those on sales, are things you dont feel like buying.
Btw, try on skins, they looks quite good too, got 30% off voucher on A200 series. almost wanted to buy one but then the staff there seems to know nuts about product they are selling

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post Jul 23 2012, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jul 23 2012, 12:33 PM)
didn't know bkt tinggi was a loop... have to go recon again if i am not too lazy...

last 2K is from 1:45 onwards? covers 1000 feet in 2K... quite steep... should be averaging above 12% gradient...  not to say crazy... but a very tough slog up the incline if you have a narrow cassette...
you meant to type fastest instead of fattest is it?  hmm.gif

i think the sigma ones are a tad less than that... i think i saw RM35 last time around...jus double side tape the bugger and zip tie it to your crank arm...

most salesperson know jack shit about what they are selling nowadays... bosses only want to hire staff that are cheap to pay and not staff who have a passion in what they are selling...

it's the reality... we all work for a paycheck at the end of the day...
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haha when i click into my own link, surprised to see the revamp the interface,
it actually looks better than my own trainingpeak user graphs and interface.

RM35 for a piece of magnet, looks like no choice =(

I weight 95kg, you would hardly see anyone bigger than me in triathlon community usually..

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jul 23 2012, 02:02 PM)
my compression wear = compression short pant... this mean to be smoothen "geseran" between 2 parts. Reduce crafing.

FYI, i have 3 same design of LineBreak compression pants, i wear it for TRX workout, short running, body pump, RPM and etc etc... only when come to heavy running / trail, i wear my compression SKINS top and short pant for it. example, trail running inside FRIM for 3 hours.

the compression you mean is Long Compression Pant, which mean for recovery, wear it for overnight, your legs will feel like fresh the next day.

I'm dont know how to swim. Tri pant would be next upgrade if im eager / lost rational again. But 2XU short tri pant is blooody expensive! RM400 plus! can get long compression pant le!

To be honest, for cycling, i wanted to get compression bib too... but it's damm extreme bloody expensive! can sky up to RM1,000.  rclxub.gif  This 1 i'm very concious and never can lost my rational as it's hurting my pocket too much. A pains that i cant endurance!
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A compression pants would make ur leg feel fresh the next morning?? for real?
I would buy without a think if that's the case, which I highly doubt so haha
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post Jul 23 2012, 02:55 PM

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I am cheapskate T_T
i use bandage to wrap around my muscle, cost RM25 each..

ok time to invest for a magic pants..

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jul 23 2012, 03:00 PM)
must emphasis more ma. haha... else people take your view easy.

i got my 2XU sock FOC when joining 30KM Newton run... smile.gif

Let me tell you another discovery on fast recovery!

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roll ! rolling rolling on the form, pains get away very fast!  brows.gif  brows.gif
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I have it, it's the suckest thing in the world. When you roll on ur aching muscle, it's like a devil beating you up. Well the devil is gravity plus you yourself.. haha..

Do you any website or references more ways to roll your body>?


Compression wear is so so expensive, can wear my father's DVT socks for that?

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post Jul 23 2012, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jul 23 2012, 03:08 PM)
in that sense... let me poison you into another thing for recovery / injuries...

i trust this thing too... but no one trusts me... this is shit more expensive that 2xu...

kinesio taping...

http://www.kinesiotaping.com/
http://www.shopkinesio.com/

been used for a long time...  back even in the USPS days by their hocus pocus chiropractor...

rubiera's knees...
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Evans during his 2010 broken elbow
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more recently... big george in the last stage of his final tour...
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last i bought it through the official channels in malaysia... the original tape, is about RM75 per roll..2 inch wide ones.. jus learn to stick with some e-books i downloaded off the net... it lasts about 3 days on the body depending on how sweaty you are and how much you bath...

my first time was done up by a guai lo who introduced me to it... he studied the courses but never applied to be a practitioner... he gave me a leftover roll because he bought a lot of it when he went back to his home country...

i saw quite some runners in last years KL marathon having their knees taped...

i bet'cha this is going to kill you faster than compression wear...haha

but if you go ebay... there are some other tapes and also more cheaper originals.. KT tape la, spider tape or somethin li tat...

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Your poison came too late, i'm poisoned already, using rock tape.
RM60 / 5m roll, in athletic circle..

haha

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