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post May 29 2012, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ May 29 2012, 12:50 PM)
me?... on the day i want to play destruction derby... i'd not only have sharpened aerobars... i'll mount some spike balls at the tip of the aerobar so when this thing gets shoved up someone's bunghole... it will be painful going in and equally when withdrawing it out...  heck... it might get left in there which is gonna be more funny at the xray machines in the hospital... bet the doctors would be thanking me for bringing laughter to their day...

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you need to think of a way to do quick release and quick attach on those spikes.

shove it up somebody's behind, detach and reattach a new one so you can be quickly be on your way to look for new victims.

and then you need to think up a way to safely carry a bag of these spiked balls too, so it won't be too painful should you take a fall smile.gif
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post May 29 2012, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ May 29 2012, 04:17 PM)
actually... i will just be creating a gun barrel and auto reload system to shoot those buggers out instead... i will just keep them in the tube of my aerobars...  i can mount a HUD display in between the 2 bars to help me aim and target where i want to plant the sucker...

i will just used a one sided reinforced messenger bag to carry spares.. i say 1 sided so that it protects me on one side while the other side i can use it to fling and a passerby or when some rider gets defensive and want to bring me down... should cost them much pain with a fully loaded bag...

played too much road rash on my sega saturn when i was a kid... hahahaha...
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will be quite a bit more difficult to claim that its all an accident with that sort of setup smile.gif
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post May 30 2012, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ May 30 2012, 07:55 PM)
I'm not really into long distance triathlon, so for a 40k riding would be different strategy. Most people would between 35~45km/h

I am not sure why cycling I cannot pour in more effort, as that I wouldn't be able to push hard even if I want.. Example in running, if I push hard, my HR would be something like 170ish. In cycling it's often not that case, eg: my max HR in genting sempah would be 159 during the first uphill from the R&R. The rest it's like 140ish, averaging 138 for the day. After cycling usually no pain no sore, unlike running. During the uphill I wouldn't be able to go any faster than 15k/h.. I would use the largest chain ratio available and spin all the way uphill slowly

Or I should compare them like that?
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I'm not exactly sure how to compare running with cycling, as I'm kinda allergic to running, but the way I increased on my cruising speed is to first work on my cadence. But then again, cadence tends to be quite specific from person to person depending on their cycling style as well.

First training on lower gears, I increased my cadence slowly till I found the upper limit that I'm able to handle comfortably for hours on end. maintain on that to build up my stamina (which is also quite closely related to heart rate). after working on stamina, its easier to work on muscle power for speed (by going on a higher gear).


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post May 31 2012, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ May 31 2012, 09:13 AM)
if you want to cycle on unlit roads, get the expensive ones like magicshine. you'll get the batteries too. but you will have to strap the battery pack onto your top tube.
if you're using a wireless bike meter, keep the battery pack at least 12 inches away from the sensor, as it may cause interference with the signals.
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post May 31 2012, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(noprob @ May 31 2012, 02:52 PM)
Gulp ! .. . i have record everything since i start this hobby , every cent and Rm spent for buy and sold part
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Seeing that I use my CC for purchases for bike stuff, I got it all recorded too. Trying very hard not to filter my expense list for bike related stuff so I won't get a shock on it tongue.gif


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QUOTE(gsrturbo @ May 31 2012, 03:21 PM)
seriously, the difference for us mere mortal between bikes tat cost thousands and those entry level bikes is not much. U will see the kids riding an el-cheapo bike beating the shitz out of u when you're struggling uphill. Its only for the pro-riders where evry mins count and they have max their potential only u'll see small gains in the products. Its all about marketing, else how do u think BMC and specialized gettin max publicity from sales and marketing.
but of course there is diff in terms of feel, handling comfort, speed and all but if u can't sustain the pace its all the same.
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hehe.. a buddy was telling me about his penang round island ride experience. Was pumping his way up hills, only to have an uncle on an ancient bike overtaking him easily, and the uncle saying to him as he passed by: 'Young man. relax a bit' (in hokkien that is)

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post May 31 2012, 07:11 PM

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ermmmm ok.. finally decided to give some thoughts on a road bike. wanna ask, what are my options for a decent bike with 105 groupset, and what kinda prices should I be expecting?
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post May 31 2012, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ May 31 2012, 08:26 PM)
you gotta go and have a look around at various shops. but i have here polygon's price. Polygon Helios 700, 105 gruppo, carbon frame, rm5699 before discount. Helios 500, 105 gruppo, alloy frame carbon fork, rm3999 before discount. i think you can get less actually. try the shops.
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Ah cools thanks. Had been eyeing the Helios 500 actually. A buddy's wanting to sell his, almost new condition cause he gatal and wanna upgrade. But gotta see if the size fits me or not first.


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QUOTE(noprob @ May 31 2012, 09:06 PM)
u guys all funny one la .. gf / wife Vs cycling ..  thumbup.gif
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eh eh eh, u won't believe how common that is. virtually everybody I know who's attached runs into that problem ler...

except for this one guy who's GF dun complain about how much he spends on his bike, but condition is, for every cycling event he joins, he must join her in a running event also.

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post Jun 4 2012, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jun 4 2012, 11:33 AM)
ohh... hahha... you accidentally cucuk'ed yourself literally...

well.. that's a given fact... debris is not tire brand biased...

maybe it is time to give the foss explosion proof tubes a try... seems like they say if a puncture is made.. the tube seals itself back automatically or around the debris itself... only letting little air escape upon penetration...

i am skeptical about it... but.. worth it... maybe...
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or go tubeless?
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post Jun 6 2012, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jun 6 2012, 10:26 AM)
backpacks definitely, unless you are just going somewhere for leisure...  messenger bags don't distribute loads evenly on your shoulders and it is not that you are constantly flinging your bag around to pick out stuff like a bike messenger does...
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I've not yet used a bag when cycling (apart from my hydration pack, but that's kinda different), but my experience with messenger bags are as follows:

Used to be a huge backpack fan, till I kinda got introduced to a proper messenger bag. Had thought all these times that a message bag is just another sling bag, but its not.

On a normal day, the amount of stuff that I carry weights about 6kg or so (laptop, iPad, camera, chargers, and various other junk). A backpack may place the weight evenly on your shoulders, but the weight is mainly handled by your shoulders only. And you'll tend to slouch forwards to keep yourself from toppling over backwards if you're carrying a heavy weight. And it does put quite a strain on your middle back too.

While for a messenger bag, even though the sling is across one shoulder only, the weight distribution is more towards your entire body as a while. I don't find much difference between the strain on your shoulders for a backpack or a messenger bag. Less slouching as compared to a backpack cause of the weight distribution. And there's less strain on your middle back.

To give a better example, my GF who's a skinny 42kg girl finds that there's less back strain while carrying the same weight on a messenger bag compared to a backpack.
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post Jun 6 2012, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(ahmeduk88 @ Jun 6 2012, 12:13 PM)
A real messenger like timbuk2 or chrome? is that the reason messengers wear the bag on a tighter sling? like this? user posted image
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Yup, although the one that I use is not as big sized as that. but big enough for me to fit my 15' laptop in there.

And yes, pulling the sling tight is what that helps with the weight distribution. That's why the sling strap on messenger bags is easily adjustable so you can pull it tight and lock it when you put it across your shoulder, or quickly be able to release it when you want to take it off.


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QUOTE(butthead @ Jun 6 2012, 12:26 PM)
well, not to get into political issues here.. but, cars bring the cronies money via taxes on the car itself or the road... for casual walking around, i guess you can leave the sling looser for the bag to hang around your hips.. this would be more comfortable but... that being said, new york bike messengers run a tight sling as they don't want the bag to be flinging around as they ride aggressively around the traffic to deliver their packages on time... flinging around is the least of worry... getting it hooked onto someones side mirror and flipping them over is the bigger one...

end of the day.. for them, it is just easier to just fling it around, flip the top open to extract the package while they have to waste more time with a back pack...
there is a specialist folding bike shop in mutiara damansara i think... owned by well tan...
Actually, having the sling loose and the bag at your hips does put all the weight on just one shoulder, which is quite uncomfortable if you're carrying a heavy load (ie. laptops, etc). Tightening the sling like that is when the weight distribution is around your entire body.



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post Jun 6 2012, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(Banananana @ Jun 6 2012, 06:21 PM)
umm... err... Search up the net for a bit, it says 700cx28c... C? What measurement is C? fyi i did not failed math in SPM.

Oh yeah and, do you have a cycling group in Facebook or something?
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cm smile.gif

MTB measurements tends to be in inches. hence inches being used for frame size and tires.

Road bikes tends to be measured in cm.
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post Jun 7 2012, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jun 6 2012, 07:11 PM)
it is a french system to either, i can't remember to label wide and narrow rims or tyres... can check sheldon brown as i think that is pretty much the only place with that much hystorical data...

it can't be CM.. 28cm is super wide man... motorcross tyres on a road bike...
my bad.. yeah, it don't look like its CM either.

actually, the 28, does it look possibly like 2.8cm?
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post Jun 11 2012, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jun 11 2012, 04:40 PM)
Also I realise after 50k of cycling my body feels like hell.. My crotch is burning, my back is aching. I wanted to ask for break stop a few times but i could close up the distance with him to say I need a stop..

The next day I woke up, my whole body is sore, my shoulder and arms is the worst, but my leg feels okay.. I wondering what's wrong with that..
This is pretty normal. When you're hunched in that sort of position for long periods of time, other parts of your body is likely to protest. especially the shoulders and arms. how's your neck muscles? aching also? that's the other common muscle to be aching.

kinda helps to move around on the saddle now and then, or stretch your back now and then too. moving your hands around kinda helps with your arm muscles.
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jun 11 2012, 05:50 PM)
neck is ok.. pulled a bit suspect from the fall..
cools, that means that you're not craning your head up too much then.

QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jun 11 2012, 05:50 PM)
erm.. i tried moving around the saddle but seems not much place to move around except to stand up..
haha well, the saddle is indeed rather small smile.gif if your groin hurts, then try to adjust your seat angle. tilt it down a bit. if you find yourself slipping forwards too much, then it means you've tilted it too far down.

if your butt hurts too much, then it might be cause the padding on your shorts had gotten bunched up and no longer pads the effected areas properly. stand up a bit and tug on the bottom of your shorts tongue.gif

QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jun 11 2012, 05:50 PM)
my group seems to plan a ride down to Melacca, even KL - PD also i felt so suffer edi.. dunno how to do down to Melacca
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Actually, if your legs are ok, but other parts hurts, then chances are that you've got the stamina to handle the trip, but the fit of your bike might be wrong. in a properly fitted setup, the only thing that should hurt should be your legs.


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QUOTE(butthead @ Jun 11 2012, 05:39 PM)
watch the race across America.. and you learn a thing or two about muscles giving way....

here is what happened to one of the competitors... had to fashion something to hold his head up as his neck muscles konked out..

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now that just looks damn freaky

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post Jun 20 2012, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(tele_mobile @ Jun 20 2012, 01:04 AM)
Hi butthead, the bike shop told me tat i can change the tyre like roadbike 1. by doing tat, aside from weight factor, i have  better/lighter gear so i can at least keep up to their pace right?

the tyre costing about RM350 include the inner tube.. its pricey and more expensive than my car tyre @.@
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switching to slicks will get you better speed.

for RM350, is that for a single tire, or for both? Also, any idea what brand/model are the tires?
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Just picked up a 2011 Polygon Helios 600 smile.gif
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nah, the carbon is the 2012. this is the aluminum one, with the ultegra group set
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post Jun 30 2012, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jun 30 2012, 04:56 PM)
how come not the carbon one? price difference a lot?

i think the carbon one is spec'ed in 105 though... as a replacement to past years 500
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actually the carbon one for 2012 is only speced in Tiagra. that's why I opted for the ultegra one instead
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QUOTE(butthead @ Jun 30 2012, 10:42 PM)
oh... thought it was with 105... anyways... it's an affordable entry level machine which don't cost an arm and a leg...
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yeah, kinda a weird combination. would have thought that a carbon bike would be accompanied by at least 105
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jul 3 2012, 09:42 AM)
Don't bring your thick wallet into shop you would be safe most likely.. already tempted to upgrade clip shoe now.. any idea what to look for when you shop for cleat + shoe?
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