I dropped and accidentally kicked my old 94' Seiko 5 solid caseback many times on solid concrete / tile floor unintentionally without breaking the crystal and the watch working fine. The decorative pieces including the Seiko logo, the day date frame on the dial, hour markings did fall out on several occasions. Sometimes it will get stuck between the minute and hour hands jamming it up. I just manually adjust the hands to get it free again before sending it to a watch repairer to reattach it back using glue. Cost? RM10.00 per visit.

After a big one, it did have some affect on the movement pendulum (rotor) or main spring. When you shake the watch, there was a springy feel when the rotor was spinning. Nevertheless, it kept on working perfectly till it was stolen. I'm not sure about the current models though, since they are all now using exhibition caseback since 2002.

What's stopping the dealers from giving more than 15%? Giving 23% to a regular customer who pays in cash quietly shouldn't be a problem right? How exactly will Tissot find out?

Define decent.

#1 Tissot PRC 200 series Automatic Chronograph
#2 Tissot Seastar 1000 Automatic Chronograph

Both using the same movement ETA calibre C01.211 with 6 hours chronograph function.

For the former, the RRP is RM2650. Retailers' Standard discount is 10%
Not sure for the latter though.

Try to look for:
Tissot T-Sport PRC 200 (AUTOMATIC CHRONOGRAPH C01.211) #T014.427.16.031.00
IMO, it's the best looking Tissot watch that you have to personally appreciate.

There are Tissot T-Race Chronograph models to consider too.
For example:
Tissot T-RACE (AUTOMATIC CHRONOGRAPH C01.211) #T048.427.27.057.00

Going by the movement calibre in the watch, #2.
ETA Valjoux7750.
Many chronograph watches are using this movement. The only difference is the brand, the design and the price.

I'm not aware of any watches using the C01.211 calibre apart from Swatch and Tissot. So if you want a unique movement from Tissot at a more affordable cost go for #1.

This post has been edited by Catnip: Apr 21 2012, 10:32 PM

I keep reading in reviews that it is based on the Lemania 5100 movement. Really? The only thing that I can find in common with both is the use of plastics. It's all marketing gimmick.

The Lemania 5100 has more features than the crippled C01.211 with better specs.

ETA V7750 vs Lemania 5100 Dial

Now, compare that to a PRC 200 Auto Chronograph dial.....

PRC 200 or Couturier? It depends on which design you like the best. Internally, both are using the same movement.

How long did you own the watch? And what happened to the watch? You've started this thread in February and in early June your watch is already damaged? Is the watch is still covered by warranty?

Anyway here's the address & tel no of the service centre. Don't forget to share the experience dealing with them...

The Swatch Group (Malaysia) SDN BHD
Level 22 Wisma Goldhill
67, Jalan Raja Chulan
50200 Kuala Lumpur
Phone: +603 2050 8888
Fax: +603 2050 8800

Did you get that or this?

No it isn't. Look and compare the subdials.

How old is the watch? Bought from authorized dealer?
It depends whether your arm and wrist movement is enough to wind the watch.
First, try hand winding the watch. It takes 40 turns clockwise to fully wound an ETA 2836-2.
Next, check if it can run for 40 hours without wearing it.

There is a clutch mechanism that will slip once the main spring is fully wound. But excessive manual winding will cause wear and tear to the mainplate if the movement is not lubricated properly and serviced regularly. <Link> Don't hand wind too often. 10 is enough as per the instruction manual and consider investing a watch winder.

2824-2 Date
2836-2 Day, Date

There is a possibility that there is a problem with the auto winding mechanism. Bring yours to the service center to get it checked.

The clutch is inside the mainspring barrel that is well lubricated with grease and protected with a cover. It is just a piece of metal that will slip when the mainspring is fully wound either by the rotor (oscillating weight) or by the pinion of the winding stem. It will rarely give problems unless it has not been serviced and neglected for a very long time. Even so, only the worn mainspring barrel and the main spring will need to be changed. The pinion on the winding stem other hand has only tiny amount of grease. Neglected, it will wear out the mainplate, putting metal bits on the working parts of the movement and potentially create more damage and more expensive repairs.

Anyway the main reason IMO, tourbillion watches are hand wound are:
1. It will make watch thicker.
2. For aesthetic reasons. It will block the view of the moving parts of movement.

Piaget makes a self winding tourbillion with 10mm thickness but not attractive IMO.

Personally, I find it hard to fully wind 100% an automatic by wearing the watch. Perhaps I'm not active enough......

Anyway, I have a perfect watch for those who are hyperactive like an Energizer bunny on steroids for those capable of doing so.

This post has been edited by Catnip: Nov 11 2012, 04:11 PM

Why don't you call them tomorrow?

Originally, it was called PR516 in the mid 60's not PRS516.
The watch with large holes in the leather strap and metal bracelets like a racing steering wheel marketed with links to auto sports.

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Instead of asking everyone else, why don't you ask yourself what you you really want?
My preference: Neither watches meet my expectations.

Anyway, between these 2 choices I'd go for the Tissot Tradition. It has minute markers on the dial that would be useful to me for keeping time.
As for the Couturier, why would anyone design a chronograph without minute/seconds markers on the dial?
Why on earth would anyone purchase that timepiece?

Call and inquire the HQ in KL: The Swatch Group (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd
03-20508922/8925/8888

Yes. I'd choose a quartz movement over a quart movement anytime.
Just bought a three hand day date quartz wristwatch last month. I don't feel it is worth posting in LYN...

Most likely, your winding gear pinion on the crown stem is worn out or have broken teeth. I recommend that you stop using the watch till it gets fixed. Bits of metal might get into the wheel train and damage other components that will cause more expensive repairs.