He deliver once the transfer clear, it took 2 days for the E-banking inter bank transfer, took one day to deliver only.
If I bank in cash, think he can deliver the same day, but I have to goto the bank, about 2KM away.
If we using same bank, then he can receive the fund same day.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=1165518382

What is this 无接点静电电容式键盘?
similar to Topre switch in any way?

its a 1988 product.... 电容式，静电容式，is it the same?
I　was searching for 静电容式, which is what topre switch is called in Chinese right?
this one come up in the cheapest in the listing, so I ordered one.
its not more than RM200 include the agent fee and shipment.

seller listed he have 126 in stock @@

found this:

找到了高人的回复~
很多的介绍都说这个是也是电容式的键盘但是这个电容式和RF101的电容式是不一样的原理不同，结果也不同。
5349的弹起是内部的海绵
101的弹起是弹簧的原理，所以手感上大家也就明白了。

5349并非只是靠海绵的弹性，在每个键帽底下都有一个橡胶的环形垫子负责弹起。
这个橡胶垫子起的作用其实和rf101键盘的橡胶膜是一样的，只不过在触发的中末端其海绵结构才会起到一个缓冲的作用，其手感的特色就来源于此，
而rf101在触发过程中的缓冲是由其内部的塔状弹簧和橡胶薄膜共同负责的，从结构上看会比5349的海绵参与进来的时间早，所以其触发过程中的受力曲线变化是会比5349更为平和的，
5349与101手感的最大区别在于键行程的前面部分，这部分101弹簧参与的早，而5349是和普通薄膜一样完全由橡胶薄膜负责，但中后半部分其实没有本质上的差别，因为此时5349键内部的海绵也参与进来了，此时压力曲线的变化应该是和101十分相似的。

至于为什么5349和101的手感会有比较大的区别，关键在于两把键盘的压力克数相差巨大，rf101是30g　45g　55g分区压力，而5349是70 +/- 20 grams。
区别是非常大的。如果5349用的是50克左右的薄膜，一定会非常讨喜的。
其他方面101全键程4mm，5349键程3.9 +/- 0.5mm，没有本质差别。
按键寿命上101是3000w而5349是5000w次，5349占优，其原因应该就是橡胶膜比较厚实，用比较大的压力克数换来了2000w次的键盘寿命。

所以，我们不妨把5349当作橡胶膜加强版的101来看。

这两个键盘天差地别谈不上，设计初衷不同，产生时代不同，把他们硬放在一起比其实就是有些不公平的，realforce系列是到现在一直在改进的，拿它和一款20年前的产品做比已经是关公战秦琼了。

其实对于5349，最初介绍给国内的朋友的时候就是作为一个新奇的发现，毕竟长久以来大家对于静电电容式键盘只知Realforce，再多一点也只知道KT曾经有一款，长久以来其他厂家的这个技术的产品并不为人所知，介绍他不过是为了给大家开阔一下眼界罢了。不想后来有商家路子野，搞到一批大加宣传，似乎引起了很多争论。

现在正好无聊，把这个东西就此说说清楚也好，免得大家一头雾水。

copy from a Chinese keyboard forum...... according to this, it wouldn't be the same with RF and HHKNB in anyway.
http://www.pcwaishe.cn/thread-24540-1-1.html

This post has been edited by kaysa: Mar 11 2012, 12:01 AM

Is it even consider as a Mechanical keyboard at these rate?

Quote some line in those Chinese Forum: if you're paying 200, don't even dream to get something have a similar touch with the Realforce.

Leopold FC500R is equipped with PBT or ABS key caps?

Leopold's FC500RR's space bar are irreplaceable! (with keycaps from Filco, and the Steelseries, and the custom KBC's that I have anyway.)
the position of the "hole" are extremely weird~!
luckily I didn't buy any set of keycaps for it yet......

are there any set of pbt keycaps that can match the design?

This post has been edited by kaysa: Mar 12 2012, 03:53 PM

All I can do is to sand it after it become slippery?
Is there any official PBT replace Spacebar or a whole set PBT from Leopold themselves?

Received the Num Pad today, tested it, Since I already have 3 different Cherry Switch keyboard, black blue and red, the green, clear, ergo clear, and brown is quite interesting, I think they decide the weight force of the switches with certain measurement, it doesn't feel right the weight force are not same with the general popular 4 color switches, personal feeling anyway. Other than that, this test actually cease my curiosity of moding a different weight forces keyboard, because it kinda felt awkward typing on a difference weight force key pad, not to mention to type on a whole keyboard?
Maybe it felt different typing on a whole keyboard than just a 21keys keypad.

but I don't think the brown suit me neither, Again, maybe it will feel different if tried on a full keyboard, But I think I have decide that Red Switch suit me the most, and decide now to put the Steelseries Black Switch and the Filco Blue Switch to sale, if any one is interested, please let me know.
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Is this the correct way of writing the review?
will go out take a photo later.

This post has been edited by kaysa: Mar 13 2012, 03:28 PM

i've got the keyboard from China......
that BTC-5339...
its coooool!!
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=1165518382
the key position are extremely awkward, but it actually actuation the 104 keys ANSI key when I press the keys in the boards, like when I press the A key in the keyboard, it actually is a Q, the W is Z, the ; is M, the ! is /, etc. so I touch type on it just felt like an normal arrangement. the keys actuation are really shallow, like 1 or 2 mm is enough to register a key, force I do not have any thing to measure the weight force, but it is lighter than the red switch from Leopold, the key caps are lower than the Filco's, I thought it would be like the cherry's original's, so I try to place 3 key from the keypad that is now cycling to me now, the R2 line 123 pn the V B N key, but they are not same height, so I replace them with my Steelseries' ABS, most of the characters and ,./;'][\=-` place are exact the same, the shift and enter are different, the backspace are irreplaceable, the ctrl and alt are much bigger because of lack of Window key, 1988 there is not that common I think, the space bar are about 40% longer than the Chinese d***... i mean Filco's space bar. The home, delete, page up/dwn, insert all work same as the normal keyboards, the Num Lock jis Verr num, COOOL!!! escape are size of ALT key. there is a key beside the left shift, (\) key, and the left shift are size of Fn key of the Steelseries.
WOW will upload photo soon!

report for the BTC-5339, vol:2
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are any one reading this @@? anyway,

The keycaps are different as previous mentioned, the abs keycaps from SS 7G are able to fit in quite nicely, its tighter compare to the original keycaps, but its higher on the keyboard, and it actually decreased the actuation position of the keys, while the original keycaps, it required more force and longer distance to register a key, the key that uses the SS 7G abs keycaps have shorter actuation distance than the keys with the original keycaps..... so the space bar and enter and other function key etc, needed more force and longer distance to type. maybe due to the inside of the keycaps are different, the + on the SS7G keycaps bottom are longer than the original one, I think it not only made the keycaps higher, but it went deeper into the switch when typing, so it greatly decreased the travel distance of the actuation distance.
and there is spring between the keycaps and the Switches stem! that is crutial in adding the re bounce of the keycaps, but it actually pushes the original keycaps loose, when the keyboard arrive this morning, when I first unboxing it, almost 30% of the keycaps are fallen off, so I have to push them back before I remove the cover plastic,
But the SS7G ABS keycaps are tighter.
I can adept to type on this easily, compare to any other keyboards I previously have. It is overally a very interesting keyboard to type on indeed, I have no idea how does typing on a topre switches keyboard feel like, but this is totally different from any of the cherry MX switches.

Where is your Black Mx keyboard?

Whats this? cool master? what is the keycaps made of? ABS or PBT?

abs abs abs abs and abs.
why there aren't many PBT keycaps around?

i don't know how kind of sopngy feeling you like. that much,
But I do own a SS 7G, its spongy feeling is heavier than the red switch Leopold I have,

And this new keyboard i got from Taobao, very old, which made in 1988. It just felt very very .... how to say.....
it's like a lighter version of the red Mx Switches, but actually you can type it further down each type.
I think I can call it a "2 actuation level" the first level of actuation is around 1~2 mm, its extremely light,
feel lighter than Mx Red switch, and the 2nd level, if you bottom out the key,
the lower part of the key are actually heavier, quite similar to Mx Black switch the lower part to the bottom.....

so now that I type without bottom out every key, it made me type easier, and almost effortless.
the sound are not as loud as red or black switches.

every one should try it!

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Added on March 14, 2012, 10:50 pmand every time I purchase a keyboard,
I have to go taobao to get those pbt keycaps from KBC each also cheat me another 100+ zZZ
The SS7G cost 200+ some more

This post has been edited by kaysa: Mar 14 2012, 10:50 PM

What are those?

Where Can I place an order?

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Added on March 15, 2012, 2:26 pmIn Chinese = 浸染 PBT ? or 热升华 PBT?

This post has been edited by kaysa: Mar 15 2012, 02:26 PM

ic ic, going to taobao right now.
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found the keycaps that is thick, pbt, doubleshot and such,
but most of them are Cherry original height......

This post has been edited by kaysa: Mar 15 2012, 04:18 PM

Available as in available in Malaysia with warranty or do you include those sell in Taobao?

I think the 10KL Rapid Fire From Coolmaster are quite low price, correct me if I m wrong.

on a different subject, are you interested in getting new one or a 2nd hand one?
I have a blue switch 10keyless waiting to let go, just follow the link in my signature.

Did he mention cheapest?