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netguy
post Mar 11 2020, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Feb 13 2020, 01:21 PM)
Yes, that is correct. I would go for PruValue Med option.
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Hi there! Was reading your advice here, and find it very informative smile.gif

Recently, my agent contacted me for 'policy updates'
He asked me to switch from my current PRUvalue med (under PRUlink One) to PRUmil med (under PRUwith you).
As I understand, I would need to surrender my main policy.

SOOO, my concern is:
1. They would charge me a new cycle of "Unallocated premium", which is quite a big chunk for first 8 years (current policy only 6 years with unallocated premium). Is that why he wants to 'update' my policy, or is PRUlink One being phased out?
2. Add that, with my now 0 cash value, would this be sustainable for me until the end of my policy (another 30yrs)? You also went with the PVM, non-surrender options, may I get your view on this? smile.gif
3. PVM lifetime value is quite low (RM1 mil), hence PMM is quite attractive without lifetime limit. But if by doing so, it's not sustainable for my policy, then it's not worth it right?

Appreciate your advice!


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netguy
post Mar 12 2020, 02:39 AM

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Why do you think you will need rm1.38m annually for hospital bill? Is it to cater for medical inflation? 🤔

Supposed that you claimed out Rm500k for the hospital bill, then what? Do you think you can still work to still generate an income? If not HOW MUCH DOES PRUDENTIAL PAY TO YOU since we already paid Rm500k to the hospital... I would opine that this is MORE important than to worry of how much is being paid to the hospital and NOT A SINGLE cent is paid to you.
Medical inflation is definitely at my mind, considering bypass, and cancer treatments costing more than RM50k now itself, whatmore 30-40 years down the road, haha. I guess that's why was looking around for a higher coverage.

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On the PVM n PMM

Are you also been made aware that the medical insurance charges for the PruMil Med will cost Rm10k pa when you are age 76-80?

Do you know that if you don't claim for PVM for 2 years, the Med Value Point (MVP) will increase by 2% (Rm20k pa) for a Rm1m MVP?
But, PVM also RM9.7k for the same R&B, at 76-80. Seems like the insurance charges are quite similar between PVM/PMM. Or did I see sth wrongly?

Also, as I see it, insurance charges for both life insurance, and medical card, increases every bday of the policyholder. So, why do we get recommendation to buy medical card as young as you can, to keep it cheap? (except the part where you get more disease as you get older).
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So get the Rm1.5 or Rm2m, PVM if you are that worried of medical inflation.

At the same time do remember to top up on your CI/TPD as explained above.

If unable to work due to serious illness/accidents and if your income is Rm5k per mth, that is Rm600k loss of income for the next 10 years to you or your family.
Yea, thanks for that advice. Definitely need to get income, once you have lost ability to do so.
Am looking into increasing my CI. My current is Crisis Defender. Seems like the new Total Multi Crisis, covers more and have early CI repayment. But charges are more than double.
For PA, I think I'll get separate from Pru, heard it's more worth it.
netguy
post Mar 13 2020, 03:56 AM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Mar 12 2020, 08:17 AM)
Correct me if I am wrong, it seems that you got yourself a "no med saver" aka full claim plan - which is why the COI is at RM9.7k at age 76-80.

The high COI is the reason why Prudential has co-insurance/medsaver/deductible plan available but the idea of having to pay something when one needs to be hospitalized doesn't go well with the general public. Take a look at RM300 med saver or even RM20K deductible.

Have you ever compared the COI between Full claim, RM300 and RM20K?

1. Let me ask you, when was the last time were you admitted to a hospital?
2. In your lifetime, how many times were you admitted to the hospital?

Calculate the COI saved vs the various plans and you be surprised that RM20K (per policy year) deductible is NOTHING compared to what you paid. Value for money, as some may say.
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Agree on the savings I'll get for the co-insurance plans, haha.

Actually, I saw that for R&B 200, Medsaver 300: PVM RM9.7k, PMM RM10.2k.
I attached the pics. Just very curious about the same charges, for such big benefit difference, haha.


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Even consider looking at getting a CI coverage until say age 60/70 (might need to do a separate policy if your current policy is up to age 100) as its main purpose is as a replacement of income when you are working.
Yea, my Crisis Def is until 70. Does it make a difference in terms of costs, if someone gets until 100? We still would be paying the same insurance charges, in the same group right?

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Early CI sounds good, if you are worried that once diagnosed with ECI, you may be off from work for few months to heal.

If cost of insurance concerns you, just look at the normal CI as that is what stops us from totally be at work permanently!

That way you may get a higher coverage. Better bang for your buck!
Ok, that sounds like a good advice. Thanks for that smile.gif

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netguy
post Mar 13 2020, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Mar 13 2020, 03:31 PM)
Look at the rm20k deductible, and you'll even be more surprised. At least that plan is maintainable until age 90/100
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Haha, anyway thank you for your help Roy! You definitely are knowledgeable! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Dec 22 2020, 11:02 AM

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For investment-linked policies, if I put extra money into my insurance, does the extra automatically go to investment and becomes my cash value?
And can I withdraw them out to my bank, next time if I want to? Thank you!

 

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