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post Oct 16 2018, 10:15 AM

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Hi, sifus here. I currently hold a PruHealth rider with annual limit 60k and lifetime limit 600k. I feel this is really not enough especially with the high medical cost nowadays hence I want to upgrade the limit.

My agent told me if i choose to upgrade my current PruHealth limit, life and death limit will maintain. However, if i buy a new medical card PruValue med, life and death limit is 100k each. I am confused, is this true?

Also, my agent advised me to keep 2 medical cards as some illness are not covered in the new PruValue med and PruHealth is easier to claim.

My agent also told me if I really want to cancel PruHealth and buy the new PruValue med, it is advisable to keep PruHealth for 1 year because in case the insurance company reject my claim under PruValue med (< 1 year), i still have PruHealth to claim.

Can someone advise on the above?

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post Oct 17 2018, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Oct 16 2018, 12:16 PM)
If your Death Sum Insured is not sufficient, then you may add on the Death coverage on the old policy or look into PruWealth that provides high coverage Rm500k to Rm4m.

The reason for PruWealth is that there is a campaign currently running with no medical checkup limit (up to Rm4m), provided it is a clean case, no medical history.

On the medical upgrade, whether to maintain 2 cards or not depends on your budget, and most importantly your medical history during the application.

For example, if the old medical card does not have any Exclusion for cysts/growth and the cysts/growth had developed, it would be advisable to get a second medical card of which an Exclusion will be imposed on the new med card (as it falls under the preexisting illness).

A preexisting illness means the illness had existed before taking up the insurance.

Any claims for Cysts/growth, it is claimable under the old medical card, whereas any claims unrelated to the cysts/growth, eg major accident is claimable under the second card.

Do note that if you get a second card, the Waiting Period will start all over for new card.
Your old medical card will definitely be easier to claim as it has surpassed the necessary Waiting Period, whereas a new medical card (as a second card) has not.

Please ask your agent to list down the "some illness are not covered in the new PruValue med".

By the way, the new medical card is not PruValue Med, but PruMillion Med. PruValue Med has been selling 3 or 4 years ago.
Yup see above on two medical cards.

However if you are still healthy, with no significant past medical history, you may do a Transfer of medical from PruHealth to PruMillion Med and only maintain one medical card as it can be costly to maintain 2 medical cards at older age.

For Transfer of Medical Card, if the old medical card has surpassed the Waiting Period then the upgraded medical card will have no Waiting Period, otherwise it will follow the previous medical card Waiting Period (sounds fair right?).
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Thank you so much ! Learned a lot from your reply above thumbup.gif
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post Oct 23 2018, 10:48 AM

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Hi sifu, my PruHealth was 4 years old already. If now I want to change from PruHealth to PruValue med, any waiting period?

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post Oct 23 2018, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Oct 23 2018, 01:26 PM)
No waiting period. You may also look at PruMillion Med if you are bothered with the cumulative total medical claim > Rm1m lifetime limit, you need to bear 20% of the bill in PruValue Med.

If the upgrade is done under PruValue Med, then it is done on the same policy (this is known as Endorsement). If it is done under PruMillion Med, the process is called Medical Card Transfer (into a new policy). This means you will have 2 policies (as PruMillion Med can only be attached to the new PruWith You ILP plan).

Either way, there is no waiting period
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Thanks so much! luckily i asked here, my agent told me got waiting period and hence advised me to keep PruHealth for 1 year, dont cancel straight away.
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post Oct 23 2018, 02:24 PM

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haha thanks Roy ! Sorry I have more questions:

1. What will happen to my PRUlink equity fund if I decided to cancel PruHealth and switch to PruValuemed. Any effect?

2. Agent told me I can withdraw PRUlink equity fund - Investment portion anytime but not the "Basic" and " Protection" portion, need to maintain at least 2k balance for those 2

3. Are Death, accident, crisis shield benefit, PRUacci guard, PRUacci med elements under my main policy Prulife ready or medical card? Because I got confused when my agent told me if I get Pruvalue med, those limit will increase but I always thought those are under Prulife ready.

4. Does Pruvalue med cover my oveaseas medical expenses?



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post Oct 23 2018, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Oct 23 2018, 04:53 PM)
1. For the medical upgrade portion from PH to PVM, the fund allocation will start over.

2. True

3. It is riders attached to the PruLife Ready (the main ILP policy). PVM is a medical rider that is attached to the PLR. What do you mean by those limit will increase? Which rider are you referring to?

4. Any overseas bill within 90 days of departure has to be paid and then file claim based on customary charges (rate as being charged at a hospital in MY).

If you reside more than 90 days overseas, the treatment has to be done in MY in order to claim.

Fair enough cos your premium is paid in RM, not “£”
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For no.3, I am confused because as you said, those are riders attached to PLR but my agent told me if I get the PVM, my death benefit and crisis shield benefit will increase from 30k to 100k, PRUacci med from 2000 to 1mil. So does that mean death benefit, crisis shield benefit and PRUacci med are connected to PVM not PLR?

Actually my main concern is to get a new medical card with higher limit . Can I cancel those riders that I dont need? for eg, PRUacci guard or crisis shield benefit? or customise the limits to suit my need?


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post Oct 24 2018, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Oct 23 2018, 10:59 PM)
It depends on your purpose and needs. The increase from 30k to 100k for Death & Crisis Shield is optional. PruAcci Med from 2K to 1M is not correct.
No, PVM is not connected to the death benefit, CSB or PruAcciMed. In short, upgrading the PVM, it is not mandatory to upgrade the Death/CSB/PAM.
Then just do the medical upgrade, the rest is optional.
The answer - yes, you can cancel/customize those riders that you don't need but before you do so, please see below and if possible answer them  notworthy.gif

I know it is not good to answer a question with a question, however, in this case I will have to ask.

Why are you concern of higher limit on the medical? Are you worried of huge medical bills say > RM200K due to a serious accident or illness?

If you are not concern of huge medical bills, why even bother to upgrade your current medical, right?  hmm.gif
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I want to get a higher limit medical card because of the rising medical cost nowadays. My current PH limit is only 60k per annum and 600k lifetime which I feel is not enough. I signed up that medical card when I was 24 years old and had failed to realise the importance of having a powerful medical card. Dont know why I even signed up for medical card with such low limit, macam no protection doh.gif

I am planning to get a separate life policy, so I am not concern about having higher death benefit in my current PLR. Or do you think I should just increase the death benefit in my current PLR? unsure.gif

For PruAcciMed, I feel it is kinda redundant if I already have PVM? since both cover medical and hospitalisation cost.
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post Oct 24 2018, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(ytan053 @ Oct 24 2018, 10:58 AM)
Definitely need an upgrade in your medical card as 600k lifetime limit is old plan. at least go for min RM1m PVM.

To know how much you need for your life insurance needs, it depends on whether you have dependents and there is a calculation to work around it. you need to find a professional who analyse all your existing insurance coverage and identify the excess or gaps in your insurance needs to tell you what to do further. while buying insurance is important, you need to look at your cashflow as well, many other angles to consider, including your other existing insurance coverage etc

PruAcciMed serves as a different purpose as PVM but dont bother with upgrading of PruAcciMed under Pru, always buy the personal accident coverage via general insurance that offers much competitive premium at higher coverage.
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Yes, indeed. plan to go for PVM RM1mil. I even thought of terminating PruAcciMed, current limit is RM2,000 only.
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post Oct 26 2018, 03:00 PM

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If I change from PH to PVM, is that considered upgrade or new medical card?
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post Oct 29 2018, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Oct 16 2018, 12:16 PM)
If your Death Sum Insured is not sufficient, then you may add on the Death coverage on the old policy or look into PruWealth that provides high coverage Rm500k to Rm4m.

The reason for PruWealth is that there is a campaign currently running with no medical checkup limit (up to Rm4m), provided it is a clean case, no medical history.

On the medical upgrade, whether to maintain 2 cards or not depends on your budget, and most importantly your medical history during the application.

For example, if the old medical card does not have any Exclusion for cysts/growth and the cysts/growth had developed, it would be advisable to get a second medical card of which an Exclusion will be imposed on the new med card (as it falls under the preexisting illness).

A preexisting illness means the illness had existed before taking up the insurance.

Any claims for Cysts/growth, it is claimable under the old medical card, whereas any claims unrelated to the cysts/growth, eg major accident is claimable under the second card.

Do note that if you get a second card, the Waiting Period will start all over for new card.
Your old medical card will definitely be easier to claim as it has surpassed the necessary Waiting Period, whereas a new medical card (as a second card) has not.

Please ask your agent to list down the "some illness are not covered in the new PruValue med".

By the way, the new medical card is not PruValue Med, but PruMillion Med. PruValue Med has been selling 3 or 4 years ago.
Yup see above on two medical cards.

However if you are still healthy, with no significant past medical history, you may do a Transfer of medical from PruHealth to PruMillion Med and only maintain one medical card as it can be costly to maintain 2 medical cards at older age.

For Transfer of Medical Card, if the old medical card has surpassed the Waiting Period then the upgraded medical card will have no Waiting Period, otherwise it will follow the previous medical card Waiting Period (sounds fair right?).
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Hi Roy, do you mind to share more abt the PruWealth campaign mentioned above on medical check up, no limit and up to RM4m?

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post Oct 30 2018, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Oct 29 2018, 10:37 PM)
PruWealth Campaign Period 1 Sep ~ 31 Dec 2018

NON Medical Limit (NML)
- Age 19 ~ 50 TRSA NML up to RM5m
- Age 51 ~ 60 TRSA NML up to RM3m
- Age 61 ~ 70 TRSA NML up to RM0.5m

Note
1. Non-Medical Limit is subjected to healthy / no major health complication
2. TRSA = Total Relevant Sum Insured (combination of all life policies)
3. If coverage is > RM2M, Financial Underwriting is required
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Hi Roy, what is non-medical limit? sorry I am new in insurance unsure.gif

 

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