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 Nokia N9 - V03 - [Fluidity King For Nokia], Let~~~ SWIPE~~~ all~~~ the~~~ way~~~

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post Apr 3 2012, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 2 2012, 12:47 PM)
Actually I did "mentioned" it I think, but I didn't pause and show comparison. I put in text saying the the apps will be moved to the BACK position, so the FRONTS apps will be closed. If that's what you mean, haha.
But we can't monitor the memory, like in my video, seems 2 apps were closed instead of 1 sometimes.
Yea, but those doesn't have app limit like Windows Phone; So, it'll be nice if BEFORE I open this app, the OS prompts me, if I open this, X app will be close, even better if it let me choose which to close. Cause maybe it's something important, like a GAME played halfway not yet saved for example.
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Hmmm, not sure if that illustrates the least used app will be closed. Haha. Anyway for most intent & purposes, I doubt end user will really want to know so detail also. Honestly I find the 'multi-tasking' ok only, but the apps side need more consistent behavior where it'll will save it's persistent state more instead of only saving in memory. That will solve a lot of issues now.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 2 2012, 12:47 PM)
So far, I haven't face issue with other OS EXCEPT Android, which also happily close the app for your without manners. Once I was typing something in web browser, then I want to check something in SMS, when I go back the the browser, it restarted.  doh.gif  That's so annoying (not to mention it's already slow), I never experience these before with my N900 despite having low ram and running multiple apps at the same time.

As most people don't like the prompt or don't know what it does, they can make default as auto-close, but for users who wants prefer not to, they can change it. OR, the first time it can prompt, then user can tick, remember my selection and don't show this again.
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Actually iOS also closes the apps when not enough memory, the reason why you don't notice is because all the apps there already do persistent state saving. It's done so well on iOS that app resuming looks like it was never closed.

Yeah I noticed that prob on Android as well. Apps sometimes really closed for no reason one. Most likely it crashed. laugh.gif

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post Apr 4 2012, 08:21 AM

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I would occasionally run into hard to double tap to unlock, but I found that it's usually because the phone is doing something in the background. So just wait a while, try again. Or if you're in a hurry, use the power button.

Anyway, no one reported on the 2nd NITdroid alpha release? Android 4.0.4 (ICS) for Nokia N9. Alpha release #2 "Sleepless Nights"
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post Apr 4 2012, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(drexar @ Apr 4 2012, 12:23 PM)
I love the code name  laugh.gif


Added on April 4, 2012, 12:24 pm

Since the app also not available inside Symbian phones, the only option is to use NITDroid right now.


Added on April 4, 2012, 12:26 pmWoot! I've just found out that QNeptunea (Twitter Apps for N9) already got a new update. Now it comes with notifications similar like the built in Twitter inside N9. This is seriously cool biggrin.gif
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Yeah, Qneptunea is seriously very good. I didn't realise about the notifications until it showed up. The conversations view is darn good, it's my default Twitter app now.

New version of Qneptunea out! QNeptunea for N9 0.0.15


QUOTE(KennyKB @ Apr 4 2012, 01:22 PM)
So fast another alpha release. Maybe we'll have a beta release which is good enough to use by the end of April.
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Keep your fingers & toes crossed, we might get lucky rclxms.gif

But I wonder if they'll fix the MeeGo Openmode issue by then. Not being able to save account passwords in MeeGo is a BIG turnoff for me now.

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post Apr 5 2012, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Apr 4 2012, 11:45 PM)
I got big red box as notification of Qneptunea...i just wonder if anybody seeing the same?
no..didn't face this problem D:
however, you can try this trick, disable -> save -> enable back the account.
it works for facebook problem when your notification will not show up at your N9's timeline
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Restart your phone then you won't get those big red box liau.

QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Apr 4 2012, 11:50 PM)
flashing now wish me luck lol the instruction is bloody confuse
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Good luck!!! If my N9 wasn't my main phone I'll go try also hehe.
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post Apr 5 2012, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Apr 5 2012, 12:42 PM)
Prefer not to, i wanna make my N9 go streak-no-reboot for one month biggrin.gif

this was addressed in the issue.. by the way a screenshot for fun biggrin.gif

http://code.google.com/p/qneptunea/issues/...=46&q=red%20box
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I can never go a week without rebooting the phone so it's fine to me.

QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Apr 5 2012, 12:49 PM)
After using the Nitdroid, do you have to setup all your accts again aft use back meego?
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It's not that you need to setup your accounts again when use back MeeGo. Just that it cannot remember passwords liau after that. You can't even set phone security code. It's actually not because of Nitdroid but because they patched the boot kernel on MeeGo to enable dual boot possibility.

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post Apr 6 2012, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(tonberry_ax @ Apr 6 2012, 05:40 PM)
I totally agree with your "syok sendiri" part, some user they dun understand how the OS perform, they only see the so called "features" which doesn't bring much benefits on the daily basis.
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Apr 6 2012, 05:44 PM)
Too much brainwash everyone expect the higher the core the power faster the phone but they forget about the software manage those cores.

I believe if a single core is smoother than a dual core isnt the dual core consider as overpriced?
Limited apps is troublesome if u are into apps if not for everyday use N9 is superb but i kinda prefer lumia more
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What to do, ppl all brainwashed by Android, faster & more is better. Less in inferior. Very hard to explain to these ppl also that it's actually their OS is inferior. laugh.gif

Holy CRAP N9 64GB so cheap!!! drool.gif
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post Apr 9 2012, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(drexar @ Apr 9 2012, 11:00 AM)
Anyone having problems in updating QNeptunea to v0.0.18?
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Installed fine this morning when it prompted me to update.
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post Apr 9 2012, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(drexar @ Apr 9 2012, 12:00 PM)
Ok finally I've figured it out. Just uninstall the apps from Settings and download it back from computer, solved the problem.
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Wow! OK. All I did was click 'Download' when the app said there was an update. Anyway, there's no need to download from computer. Use MeeScan on your N9 to scan the QR code in the download page to get it downloaded straight on your phone. thumbup.gif
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post Apr 9 2012, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(drexar @ Apr 9 2012, 02:11 PM)
Previously that method is ok with me. Maybe got problem when I installed NITDroid earlier tongue.gif
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Oh ok. tongue.gif

So apart from not being able to save passwords on MeeGo, anything else weird you noticed?
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post Apr 10 2012, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(jmkoding @ Apr 9 2012, 10:19 PM)
just saw interesting item in garage sale. as i know, now only n9 can pair nfc with this speaker. can any others?

Nokia NFC Speakers
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Great speakers. Works with Nokia 700 & 701 also. For other brand of phones not sure but Galaxy Nexus do have NFC lah.


Added on April 10, 2012, 11:03 am
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 10 2012, 10:40 AM)
Yay!!!! Now let me go read it & get back to u in a few days laugh.gif

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post Apr 10 2012, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 10 2012, 11:04 AM)
LoL, basically can skip many of the parts, many of it already mentioned here before anyway. Some parts is like telling stories (e.g. Multi-Tasking), got video which I think is way better and simple.
The Social Networking Services (SNS) also got video, but I miss some of the things in the video tough.
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Oh ya, need to ask you, did you notice any difference of build quality between Lumia 800 & N9?
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Apr 10 2012, 12:13 PM)
There are 3 major usability shortcomings in Mango:

1. Only 1 master volume control. This means turning down the volume for your video or audio player also turn down the ringing and alarm.

2. In lock mode the wi-fi is disconnected and any background transfer use 3G.

3. Cannot use any MP3 file as ring tone but have to buy from the store. Why so mean?

Mango is not yet a polished OS despite Microsoft's experience in Windows Mobile. It looks like a whole new set of people is used for WP so the experience is not carried forward.

According to one user's comment a 3 year old iphone 3GS is more user friendly than Lumia 800. Don't shoot me, I'm just quoting his opinion.
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 10 2012, 12:29 PM)
1. Yes. I keep forgetting about that.

2. Should be resolved in the latest update?
If not wrong, when plugged into charger, it will not disconnect.

3. Not really sure; Didn't try that. I know they got restriction like length and file size.
I know previously cannot assign custom SMS and notification tone, seems available already after update.

Yes, I totally agree, it's like totally whole new set of people.
What I feel? Is like the people from iPhone first gen? LoL
And I wonder if Microsoft did do any control or checking? Did they use the phone?
The bluetooth file transfer is even requested by their own admin, a mobile guru in windowsphone official site suggestion.
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1. Yeap, MS really needs to fix that. Annoying like crap to bind both to 1 master volume.

2. Yes I think Andy is right, when charging it doesn't disconnect WIFI since the wireless sync to Zune can work. But still it's dumb in the 1st place to disconnect WIFI when locking the screen. Just end up using more power when doing background transfer.

3. I think can download a lot of free ringtone apps in Marketplace ah. Install those apps then choose what song you want then set it.

I think I mentioned b4 but maybe no one read it. Windows Phone have no relation to the old Windows Mobile. Not done by the same team, in fact, MS purposely not put any ppl from Windows Mobile team into Windows Phone team so that it's a fresh start. Unfortunately with this approach we're left with what we have today, a lot of missing features that were norm during Windows Mobile days.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 10 2012, 12:29 PM)
As for fruits discussion, I have no idea why Mango have to follow Apple, when the Berry (Black one, or Blue one) doesn't have to.  tongue.gif
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Well said. Food for thought for MS to ponder nod.gif
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post Apr 11 2012, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Apr 10 2012, 11:58 PM)
anyone can perform vid test on n9 pr1.2?
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Played back a vid I recorded last Sunday & didn't hear any background noise. Haven't tested playback on PC yet.
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post Apr 12 2012, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 12 2012, 10:46 AM)
Yea, I read that, but they should get knowledge from those seniors, as in consultant or consultation. Take the goods, drop the bad.
The current team is like from Apple instead and never consulted with Microsoft Windows Mobile?
The weirdest thing is the Contacts, one Live ID only allowed to have FIX contact type, e.g. 1 Mobile Number.
The way they label it, it feels like the database is not normalized for flexibility, which is so wrong for contacts type database. Moreover, Microsoft knows this very well as they ownself provides database classes for SQL and there is examples using contacts management. I honestly wonder is the design is really what  suspected, if yes, I wonder how and what happen? Database design is one of the most important factor like a backbone of the software application, they should know that very well.

Anyway, for those common features, I think there's no need to be smart to know those features are what people want. It can be a deal breaker to many. I really have no idea why MS omit or leave out those features, the only more logical explanation based on what they've done is, they just blindly follow whatever Apple has. the quick way.


You see a product is famous in the market, you want to get the same response, so you follow.
A proper way is to see and understand, what's it's strength, why is it famous, AND what's the thing people don't like about it, what can be improved, etc. This way, your product will outshine the other product by offering what it has, and what it doesn't or the weakness of that product.
Sorry, was busy yesterday. Didn't seem to have problem.
I re-watch your video, the silent part, seems no sound that you mentioned?
Not sure, I think more towards Microsoft. The OS is controlled by MS, Nokia has little or no control. I've highlighted to Nokia regarding these limitations and restrictions, they can't do anything, even they know and want these features. Obviously, their customers has been using these features, they ownself also using it. To "upgrade", how can it be loosing more things, become even more restricted and controlled?

In my point of view, this is an important turning point or time for them to decide and take action before they start loosing more customers. If there is a burning platform, current WP7 with these restrictions and limitations is the burning platform. It's simple and easily implemented, only if they truly meant what they say about "Putting People First".


Added on April 12, 2012, 10:51 amAdd On:
If there's really a good feature, we should acknowledge and compliment it, so show appreciation and also to encourage further development.

If there's something that is not good, we should also highlight and acknowledge it, hope they will look into it and do something about it. If we just keep quiet or doesn't make it important, then it becomes not really important.
EVEN if it's not important to some of us, it doesn't mean it's NOT to others. It's not about some of us or some people, it's about reaching more customers. These features are very common to any smartphone even dumbphones, how can these features be left out? It's all thanks to the "poisonous" Apple.
Before this, where got smartphone that use some software to transfer media files? Where got smartphone that gives all these troubles, frustrations, restrictions and limitations? To me, that's all rubbish and it's all thanks to the "poisonous" Apple to introduce these and manufacturer's start copying.
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Well, that's wat they meant with fresh start, clean room approach. Do things from scratch. Haha! Don't tell me it's wrong, tell that to MS. Hehe.

Yeah I noticed about only able to add 1 mobile no. But can add multiple 'Other' no. So it's not completely inflexible. Just that why can only add 1 'Home', 1 'Mobile' and 1 'Work'?

Anyway, another thing that I think more or less became a limitation & thus why they followed more of the 'Apple' way is that Windows Phone OS came from Zune Music Player OS. So depending on how flexible that OS was from beginning, it might have decided how flexible it can be in the future also as Windows Phone OS. But this is already history, just see what improvements they can bring now & how fast they can do it.

QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Apr 12 2012, 11:23 AM)
indeed true. Just imagine how deep this brainwash is especially younger generation its imprinted in their mind but iOS did make their OS so simple that anyone can easily adept to it like my dad when he was using Nokia he everyday complaint lag lag lag this issue that issue. Since he use iphone he never complaint anymore except one very serious bug on the iOS. Suddenly the phone cant make phone call regardless what u do.
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Hehe, Apple made video calls 'cool'. Something that was never 'cool' all this while coz it looked like crap. laugh.gif

Anyway, you forgeting that iPhone can also have prob where u can't slide to answer calls. I seem to have a lot of friends having this issue now. So can't make a call & can't answer a call, is that a phone? doh.gif

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 12 2012, 11:49 AM)
Yes, what they do with the simplicity, smoothness, stability and realibility is very good. But they didn't do it the right way, they remove what's supposed to be available in smarpthone or what's available in other smartphones. That's not good. Worst yet, they successfull CHANGE the standards, making it WORST, NOT BETTER.

Simplicity can be done easily, all they need to do is DISABLE NOT REMOVE, many things and features BY DEFAULT; make it SIMPLE. When user want, they can enable these feature so now it can satisfy and fit many people.
Or can be done during INITIAL SETUP (first time setup the phone), choose your preference, and it will customize the phone to suit your requirements and needs.


Added on April 12, 2012, 11:51 am

Agreed
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Haha! Well Apple never followed what other ppl have set. So they make things their way & after 5 years they now can say, see? We were right! Sad thing is, they brainwashed the young ppl to the point they know nothing else.
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post Apr 12 2012, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 12 2012, 02:31 PM)
For SMS, it only recognize mobile number.
Anyway, the point is, I suspect the database design problem which will really be an issue if what I suspect is true; to change a design will mean major change. This is also a major problem to many softwares, many software company didn't prioritize database design, thus in the long run, it gives a lot of problem, by then you want to change, it's too hard and too much work, especially if the system is critical, huge data and cannot afford long downtime. Just imagine the base of the house, if it's not well planned and also flexible for future expansion, to fix it later, will have a lot of headache and problems.
Set new standards, kill others, generate followers. hahaha
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Eh, u sure ah SMS can only recognise mobile number? It defaults to that lah but I remember can switch to any other fields so u can change to 'Other' also to SMS.

Yes agree that most company don't put much thought to database design until it's too late. It's usually an afterthought & also after realising that, opps!!! Something is wrong!! So what now? Add more tables to mask the problem!. doh.gif

QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Apr 12 2012, 03:44 PM)
Yea when they throw tantrum parents must entertain them rather than the kids behave themselves. Yeah always see that at wedding dinner parents busy chit chat the kids busy playing ipad =.=" somemore latest one.

I also know some parents spoil their children so bad just buy them a new phone they can lost it few weeks later. Parents said its okay next birthday buy u another =.=" if my dad sorry no more.

Those really control only a handful most dont really bother.
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Aiyak, I'm guilty also, but I only let my son watch cartoon on my phone, not play games. Hehe.

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post Apr 12 2012, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 12 2012, 05:32 PM)
Not sure can switch or not. Still there is a problem with the design.

Anyway, in my video and review, I got write about a workaround I found.
Each contact will have automatically have one Live ID, each Live ID can have only 1 mobile number.
But one contact can have multiple Live ID, you can't create them,  BUT, you can create another "duplicate" contact, then LINK them, now it will show 2 mobile.

It's better for them to make proper support for it. It's a contacts database, it should be flexible, even Microsoft knows this well and have examples in their SQL classes/tutorials.

Another problem is when you transfer contacts from your other phones, those contacts with more than 1 mobile, only 1 number will be transferred if not wrong.
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Haha, I've not finished reading your review. Have it open on my N9 but haven't read past intro. laugh.gif

Interesting workaround u found. But I do remember that u can switch no in SMS. The switch option also allows u to continue chatting on MSN for eg, if the person logged on to MSN after u SMS them.

Not sure about importing contacts with multiple mobile no. Hmmm... I'll go check my Hotmail later. I still have those contacts imported there.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 12 2012, 05:32 PM)
Anyway, the one problem that every phone has is, even they support multiple number, seems there's no "primary" mobile. Sometimes, the person have 2 mobile number, but you can't remember which one is his primary mobile, or personal mobile and office mobile, etc.
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Yeap so true, something I'm so used to in Symbian. I think Android have this right?

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 12 2012, 05:32 PM)
Haha, same; but watch educational cartoon loh.
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Actually this is one nice thing bout have Nokia, when my kids want to play games I say my Nokia no games. laugh.gif

So end up watching videos brows.gif
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post Apr 13 2012, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Apr 12 2012, 08:03 PM)
Wait till the kids get older. Like Aspire said, they see others have, they will pester you for greatest meanest 5 core device.
But I think the parents that know me kena influence by me, lol. Mostly those who arent familliar with computers/smartphones will ask since they know I like gadgets. The kids pester for Iphone, Samsung S2. I told the parents, no no no, dont spoil them, dont buy expensive phone. Not yet learn how to earn money, use so much money liao. Buy a few hundred ringgit one enuf liao. The kid will stare at me, the spoiler  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Well I have a 7 year old & 4 year old now. They do play their cousin iPad when he brings it over but usually, I just let my kids watch video. It doesn't matter if they make a fuss about wanting iPad to play games since they know I won't get it for them. Can't spoil them too much.


QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 13 2012, 09:49 AM)
I have those with multiple mobile, it didn't transfer all only 1, but that was using Contacts Transfer app by Nokia. Anyway, after sync with Facebook, MSN Live, etc. those other contacts were sync and auto-linked.

Games I think depend what games, if educational game, is ok.
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After checking my Hotmail, I realised I've deleted most of my contacts that were imported but luckily still got 2 that were around that I can do comparison. Interestingly both mobile no for the contacts was imported properly but was labeled as 'Mobile' & the other one 'Work'. Also, I only used Nokia Contacts Transfer after I updated it. The original one that came with the phone is buggy & might explain your situation. This is something I think they have inform shops that sell the phones.


QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 13 2012, 09:49 AM)
I honestly don't geddit, I'm not a business person or maybe got some things inside Nokia that none of us knows about, why they drop this and that and cannot adopt other OS.
But all these makes something even more obvious, that the rumors about "infiltrate and attack from the inside, and then...."
Well, just hope that won't happen, else......
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Actually there's a very simple question to this. What does MS have to gain from Nokia exiting mobile phone business? (Remember, Nokia is not just making phones, their phone business is just 1 division but a major division. They have another network infrastructure division) It's not like WP is the hottest thing now right? Seems to me like MS needs Nokia to survive more than anything. Else Steve Balmer will start throw chairs again coz his mobile phone plans all screwed. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Apr 13 2012, 10:56 AM)
i believe noise cancellation on my N9 somehow not enabled for anything other than phone calls.

during phonecall, people over the line can hear my voice loud and clear(based on what they said)....but when I do vid recording or voice recording, hellalot of noises in the background
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I think u got something wrong about video recording. To my understanding, there's no noise cancellation used during video recording. It's recording in stereo sound with 2 mics, one next to the flash & the other one near the speaker.

But if your video is really picking up sounds that don't originate at all from the place you recording, maybe you should get your device checked. Or maybe it's haunted. laugh.gif


QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 13 2012, 11:16 AM)
That's good to hear. Too bad I used before the update, lol;
Yes, that's what the rumors are also saying, MS are pushing their product using Nokia. If Nokia sells Android, the it will impact their WP. Just like Samseng and HTC, their WP is not selling well, now they're concentrating on Android... So... they can't afford this, and forces Nokia to go WP root only and they have to declare their other OS dead so people have NO CHOICE to choose WP or leave. One more thing is, they didn't launch N9 in US market? Then 808?

Nokia future isn't known yet, before WP, I remember they have plans for many Symbian phones and future MeeGo products that looks promising. Their Belle gets better, and there's MeeGo... how do they know it will fail? I believe it can be more successful than adopting solely on WP.
They can even have MeeGo, Symbian, WP and Android, capturing every PART of the market. They will have every user, the only phone manufacturer which have these OS?
Symbian users can choose to stay or switch to other OS while still using the Nokia Brand.
But now? There isn't much choice.
It's lucky that the 808 PureView is still using Symbian, so they can still maintain majority of their Symbian Customers.
I thought Plan A was the plan all along?  rolleyes.gif


Added on April 13, 2012, 11:17 am

What about normal voice recording, try it inside a room and then try to talk?
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808 if I remember correctly is not going to be released in USA coz according to Nokia, no one wants a device with Symbian OS in USA.

I agree Nokia should not put all it's eggs in 1 basket, a very risky basket somemore. Now they have also cutoff the hands & legs that used to support them so if WP doesn't save them, well nothing will since nothing is left. Though Nokia may still survive just selling low cost phones, especially with rumours of Meltimi getting mentioned more & more. Who knows, they might reinvent the low to medium cost phones the same way Apple reinvented the high end 'smartphone' segment.

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Deleted. Double post. I thought that can't happen anymore. Weird....

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 13 2012, 04:00 PM)
Not sure, but the video I recorded during the Peugeot 508 launching, the ambient noise is pretty noisy, but seems it's been cancelled out and the announcement of the price is so clear, I'm also surprie myself when I go back and view cause I remember that time, it wasn't so clear.
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The stereo digital mics are confirmed on N9. They also seem to be of slightly better quality than on N8 where u can record much higher decibel sounds with it compared to N8.

Good example Amazing sound recording from Nokia N9

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 13 2012, 04:00 PM)
I think many US people might want 808, but decide not to release sounds fishy instead. Did they not release N8 in US?
I would LIKE to think they put all eggs in 1 basket is because of Mirosoft, not Nokia decision. Moreover, the CEO himself is ex-MS. Everything just sound very fishy, very fishy. But it's all just guessing. As TMO favourites, have to wait for Chuck Norris.
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N8 was released in USA but u have to remember, that was back in end of 2010. Also, no carrier carried it so it was sold unsubsidised at crazy prices. Try USD500. Since then the only carrier that carried a Symbian phone was T-mobile with a customised C7. After that, Nokia decided to take out all Symbian phones from USA market.

When PureView 808 got revealed that it was running Nokia Bell, there were huge groans from all the US based journalists. They are all puzzled why it's not running Windows Phone but running a 'zombified' OS. So I don't think Nokia is going to take chance release in USA liau. laugh.gif

QUOTE(pikacu @ Apr 13 2012, 08:02 PM)
yeap..that hiss hiss sound. compared to Andy video, can't even hear the hiss hiss sound sad.gif
N9 vs L800 vid recording battle : http://mynokiablog.com/2012/04/10/n9-vs-lu...ding-meegovswp/
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My videos definitely don't have hiss sound. In fact all the audio in my videos I've taken are clear. Maybe you should get your phone checked.

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