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post Sep 18 2012, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(smwah @ Sep 16 2012, 11:22 AM)
my place at setia alam, famous for the soft soil. Intend to do extension, 20x9.
I not how should the footing need to be done. My neighbour had done his extension, but not on the other side. Possible we share the load with  my neighbour?
My intenstion is no wall tiles only floor.
Agak how much will it takes?
Another question, if dun use bakau wood what other solution can use? From my experience, most of the resident did bakau but also can't avoid the crack happen on the extension.
Any idea?
I want to hack my existing counter top, is about 10 feet. Normally how much they charge? hacking and disposal.
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Hi Bro,

For your reno size, from my undertsanding you want to reno roof and floor only..estimated cost is RM6K with tile.


For you problem soft soil :

Below is the propose solutions: THIS ALSO CONSIDER AS TIPS FOR YOU AND OTHERS

1. Please ensure your contractor does not curi the kayu bakau by cutting half so that he want more profit. Many contractors did this.
2. For single storey house, the minimum footing dimension is 3x3x3 feets, normally contractor did it 2x2 to save budget. For double storey, min is 5x5x5 feets .
3. since your soil is soft, minimum bakau needed is at least 9 batang bakau per footing. For hard soil, 5 batang bakau are sufficient.
4. Use only BS minimum Y12 size steel. Do not use Y10 CQ steel for footing.

For you table top hacking and dispose is about RM400.


good luck.
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post Sep 19 2012, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(Pandoora @ Sep 18 2012, 12:19 PM)
Hi Tomjason.. you have done great work here... rclxms.gif ..

Just need your advise on the following

Car Porch currently is locked bricks. 26x30 = 780sqft.
Labour only to lay 1x1 tile RM 2.50 per sqft.
Labour only to remove lock brick + dispose + install steel grid and cementing work = RM 800

Is this reasonable?

I need to buy the following. Can you advise me ? Rough estimate will do so I can do some budgeting.

How many bag of cement required for 780sq ft? Any brand in  particular?
How much and what type of sand required for 780sq ft?
How many liter of Susu required for 780sq ft?
How many liter of adhesive required for 780 sq ft?
How much is a steel grid and what grade to buy?.

I appreciate your advise. biggrin.gif

Do share the formula as well......

Thanks a heaps....cheers.. thumbup.gif
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Hi bro,

below is my comment:

"Car Porch currently is locked bricks. 26x30 = 780sqft.
Labour only to lay 1x1 tile RM 2.50 per sqft.
Labour only to remove lock brick + dispose + install steel grid and cementing work = RM 800

Is this reasonable?"

for tile upah normally 1x1 tile is RM2 sq ft. but RM2.5 sq ft should be ok.try to get discount.

"Labour only to remove lock brick + dispose + install steel grid and cementing work = RM 800"

Answer :

i will show you the calculation : need 2 BRC A7 (your term is steel grid) cost RM56, Sand Kasar 2 scoop RM140, concrete stone RM70, cement 8 bags RM144. Upah to remove lock brick and dispose and re-cementing RM320. Lorry sampah RM160. Total is RM890. Your contractor quote RM800. I suppose your contractor quote without material, his upah only RM800.


If you want to but material :

below is my quotation:

How many bag of cement required for 780sq ft? Any brand in particular?
Answer (Ans) : 8 bags for cement rendering as my above calculation and 9 bags for tiling. One more thing, kedai hardware sometime also tipu2...they will sent you the cement that already "masuk angin"...this is due to the cement bag is koyak a bit so the cement will harden..you will rugi...i kena a few times...now when order cement..i remind the hardware shop....DONT SENT ME the koyak bags.

How much and what type of sand required for 780sq ft?
Ans: All pasir kasar will do as long as you get the 'washed' sand. Sometime the kedai also tipu2..they sent you unwashed sand..becarefull...

How many liter of Susu required for 780sq ft?
Ans: For your case, you do not need susu (susu usually for waterproofing ) i suppose for your case you meant glue. If you still wan the glue if i can remember cost RM25 per 20 litter (blue plastic tong). The glue normally for lay tile at wall and table top. It is also another option you can buy and mix with glue cement.

How many liter of adhesive required for 780 sq ft?
Ans: As above. Adhesive or glue the same.

How much is a steel grid and what grade to buy?.
Ans: As my above calculation. The best you buy 3 BRC.


sorry bro, the formula i hv stop cause too many "con' tractor" here in the forum. If you want you can PM me. I will filter first to check if the PM from any contractor.

good luck.

This post has been edited by tomjason: Sep 19 2012, 11:29 AM
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post Sep 19 2012, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(smwah @ Sep 19 2012, 01:51 PM)
Hi expect need your advice on the electrical stuffs.
Previously I did for water heater point x 2. The wireman never add extra at the MCB but instead tap from the existing point. If not mistaken they tap from my 13amp but they change the fuse to 20amp. They mention one point tap from 2 13a soure, eg neural tap from one 13a and life from another 13a. That time I also blur blur believe Ok.
Now I want to add 2 extra air con point at my upstair room. I know many of them tap from standard 13a plug. But since my 13a plus already been tapped for heater.
My idea is, add one MCB for upstair to support 2 x heater point (rewire) and 2 x aircon point.
For my my lower ground extension, i want add one oven point, 1 x 13a with 2 socket loop, 1 x 2.5 for lights and fan.

Agak agak how much. I think need to change my current MCB, only got 2 kosong tempat.

So far so many forums ask advice, has anyone already start their reno work?

My plan is end of the year or early Y2013. Must wait after 2012.... haha.
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hi bro,


very dangerous water heater looping....eventhough the contractor change the fius, this make even more dangerous cause the system will not tripped and will burden the wire.....the wire will generated heat..long term can cause fire and shorting..VERY DANGEROUS....

if you wan to be save if do not want to rewiring the heater, you can buy the tool heat scanner/gun that can measure the heat of your wiring (on both the heater and shoot with the scanner)....

for aircond and heater must pull direct from DB....

since you want to put extra DB..better change the heater wiring....

one more thing...DO NOT USE CHINA BRAND WIRE.....use only Sirim Approved such as Mega brand etc...

below is basic formula for wiring for you and other forumer...consider this also as TIPS:

Wiring

Downlight(lighting) around RM60-65
Downlight (lighting) loop RM40
Aircond cable 2.5mm RM150
Socket cable 2.5 mm RM120
Fan Rm70
Water heater 2.5mm RM150
Wall light RM60
Upah pasang light RM5-RM8
Upah pasanag fan RM20
Oven 4mm cable RM200

My house i design my house with 2 DBs...at back DB using 16 mm wire size....my advised to you...for your upper DB must use at least 16 mm cable from meter....

want detail inform me...

good luck

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post Sep 19 2012, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(ebarang @ Sep 19 2012, 02:41 PM)
hi,

need to know the budget for porch reno 20x20. any advise?
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hi bro,


estimated RM 13K..with tile but normal2 tile...

Added on September 19, 2012, 3:33 pm
QUOTE(heowaihong @ Sep 19 2012, 02:58 PM)
I am planning to extend the kitchen.
The size is 20ft*15ft. Please estimate the cost for me.
Thanks Mr. Tomjason.
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estimated RM36K....with normal tile. excluded grill and Kitchen cabinet.

Added on September 19, 2012, 3:36 pm
QUOTE(neo110 @ Sep 19 2012, 03:28 PM)
Hi tomjason,

How much do you think it will cost to hack existing floor tiles and replaced with 1x2 floor tiles for an area of 590sq ft.

How much is the labor cost to install 1x2 wall tiles and floor tiles?

Thanks in advance.
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hi bro,

cost to hack is RM1180 and cost of tile with cement for 590 is estimated RM2400 (tile owner buy).

labor cost for tile is RM2 sq ft.


This post has been edited by tomjason: Sep 19 2012, 03:36 PM
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post Sep 20 2012, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(gg8090 @ Sep 19 2012, 09:18 PM)
hi bro,

how much the cost to built a single storey house for rental(20' x35').
No roof tile & all cheap/normal finishing.
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hi bro,

below is my calculation and quotation with the spec i given below, first of all i suppose you did typo mistake "No roof tile"...smile.gif...

spec : (since you want cheap and reliable for your house rental but i do no compromise on foundation,wiring and plumbing (foundation,wiring and wiring is according to JKR spec))

1. Sand brick
2. Plywood door
3. Normal window (not powder coated)
4. normal roof tile (Monier)
5. normal ceilling.
6. Normal tile (about RM2 ++ per piece)
etc

Estimated : RM50K


good luck bro...

Added on September 20, 2012, 8:00 am
QUOTE(smwah @ Sep 19 2012, 09:30 PM)
Thanks for the advice.

The reason I dun trust other contractor, not because they no good. Just because they can't convinced me. Everything should be supported by technical facts and standard rules. Sometimes nothing happen doesn't means is Ok. But what if the condition is different then you will be in trouble. Engineering calculation and specs doesn't do it as suka suka, it based on many conditions and theory to conclude it.
It is nice for you to share your advice.
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hi bro,

we must not compromise on safety for wiring....you better think to redo your wiring...water heater is very dangerous...since you got electric and water....these two factor is killer factor when combine.......many case is paper died while bathing........

Added on September 20, 2012, 8:04 am
QUOTE(aoi9798 @ Sep 19 2012, 11:10 PM)
Hi,

Need some advice.  icon_question.gif
I plan to extend my kitchen. Size is 10ft*7ft.
Beside that, want to hack the wall ( 6ft*11ft ).
How much will it cost?
For brick selection, is it neccasary to use red brick or can use sand brick for kitchen extension?

TQ.
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hi bro,

for your case estimated cost kitchen extension RM9K (with normal tile excluded grill and kitchen cabinet). For hacking wall cost RM200 aje...if i were the contractor masuk sekali price in the reno..smile.gif...

for me since i want to stay long in the house better use red brick...from my experience..red brick is stronger and cooler. Sand brick absorbed heat and sandr brick after 5 year you will see crack on the wall....

good luck bro

Added on September 20, 2012, 8:11 am
QUOTE(param124 @ Sep 19 2012, 11:29 PM)
Hi to all sifu's out there

I just got my home and plan to renovate

For my budgeting purpose may i know how much would it cost to

1) break old tiles and lay new tiles perhaps 1x2 ft or 2x2 ft for a space of 1200 sqft

2) Completely re-do both my toilets with new tiles, new toilets bowls, shower screen, sinks etc. Currently both are split i.e. toilet and shower are in two separate room side by side with a small area between them. Would like break and combine the toilet in master bedroom into one and the below one to remain as is but change the entire interior with new furnishing

3) building concrete table tops in kitchen say L shape about 6 feet width and 10 feet length. Perhaps also a concrete table top in the kitchen about 3x6 feet. The mentioned above is to be fully tiled

4) any idea how much would it cost for me to grind and polish my existing wooden flooring which include the stairs and also top floor room. Total area will be circa 700sqft

5) To build a wall between kitchen and dining area somewhat a divider - a suggestion would be appreciated about 8ft length up to the room which is about 10-12 ft high

Your input is truly appreciated
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if there is no other contractor or sifu can answer your question .. i will answer it, just remind me..... but right now let the others answer first since you dedicated to all.....

This post has been edited by tomjason: Sep 20 2012, 08:14 AM
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post Sep 20 2012, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(param124 @ Sep 19 2012, 11:29 PM)
Hi to all sifu's out there

I just got my home and plan to renovate

For my budgeting purpose may i know how much would it cost to

1) break old tiles and lay new tiles perhaps 1x2 ft or 2x2 ft for a space of 1200 sqft

2) Completely re-do both my toilets with new tiles, new toilets bowls, shower screen, sinks etc. Currently both are split i.e. toilet and shower are in two separate room side by side with a small area between them. Would like break and combine the toilet in master bedroom into one and the below one to remain as is but change the entire interior with new furnishing

3) building concrete table tops in kitchen say L shape about 6 feet width and 10 feet length. Perhaps also a concrete table top in the kitchen about 3x6 feet. The mentioned above is to be fully tiled

4) any idea how much would it cost for me to grind and polish my existing wooden flooring which include the stairs and also top floor room. Total area will be circa 700sqft

5) To build a wall between kitchen and dining area somewhat a divider - a suggestion would be appreciated about 8ft length up to the room which is about 10-12 ft high

Your input is truly appreciated
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hi bro,


below is my comment:


1) break old tiles and lay new tiles perhaps 1x2 ft or 2x2 ft for a space of 1200 sqft

Ans: Estimated cost to hack old tile is RM2400 and lay new tile (tile owner buy) is RM4800. If you got quotation above this value then a bit expensive.


2. Completely re-do both my toilets with new tiles, new toilets bowls, shower screen, sinks etc. Currently both are split i.e. toilet and shower are in two separate room side by side with a small area between them. Would like break and combine the toilet in master bedroom into one and the below one to remain as is but change the entire interior with new furnishing

Ans: Since you do no mention total area space, i will give you cost for laying new tile is RM4-RM4.5 sq ft (inclusive cement,glue etc, tile owner buy) use this guide/tips for you and others forumer.

3) building concrete table tops in kitchen say L shape about 6 feet width and 10 feet length. Perhaps also a concrete table top in the kitchen about 3x6 feet. The mentioned above is to be fully tiled.

Ans: normally table top width is 2 feets, R u sure 6 feets??... I will calculated on 2 feets basis. Total length is for your case is 13 feets, estimated cost with tile (tile value is about Rm20 per piece) RM1100.

4) any idea how much would it cost for me to grind and polish my existing wooden flooring which include the stairs and also top floor room. Total area will be circa 700sqft

Ans: sorry bro, i dont have experienced in wood floor..and i do not interested in wood floor so i dont do research.sorry again.

5) To build a wall between kitchen and dining area somewhat a divider - a suggestion would be appreciated about 8ft length up to the room which is about 10-12 ft high

Ans: Estimated cost is RM800.

good luck bro...anything just inform me.

Added on September 20, 2012, 2:05 pm
QUOTE(jesslynn @ Sep 20 2012, 11:43 AM)
i just get 1 of contractor quote for my kitchen extension, need advise from sifus here...

Total is 132 sqft on extension part. Including structural build up, painting, plaster ceiling, concrete slab top cost me rm18500... is it reasonable?
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Hi bro,

It is reasonable if included door,window, wiring and tile. My estimation is RM15K only excluding grill and kitchen cabinet.

good luck

This post has been edited by tomjason: Sep 20 2012, 02:05 PM
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post Sep 21 2012, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(aoi9798 @ Sep 20 2012, 11:26 PM)
Hi tomjason,

Thanks for the estimation.
I guess your calculation 9k is based on using red brick, is it?
How about the roof tile? Is it the ceramic type?

One more Qs..
Since my new house has 4bedroom, plan to convert the smallest bedroom into a bathroom, how much will it cost? Size is 9ft*10ft.
brows.gif  brows.gif

Existing bathroom too small, only 5ft*6ft for each bathroom. Furthermore, bathroom 2 is just next to bathroom 1. Also plan to combined both bathroom to become one.  hmm.gif 

Pls advice again.
TQ...
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hi bro,

yes..the estimation based on high end material..smile.gif...red brick,nyatoh door, color glass,GI roof truss etc...

Ans: to convert bedroom to bathroom...around RM1500 to RM2K (plumbing,piping,sewarage).tiling RM2300..tile owner buy...the price i calculated based on full height tile to ceilling....my calcualtion based on your area total

"Existing bathroom too small, only 5ft*6ft for each bathroom. Furthermore, bathroom 2 is just next to bathroom 1. Also plan to combined both bathroom to become one."...

Ans: if you just want to break the wall..it is cheaper..but kurang cantik lah...if you want to remodel the bath room such as change the tiling..then the price is different. If to change the tiling (tile you buy) estimated RM1k.

good luck

Added on September 21, 2012, 8:11 am
QUOTE(jesslynn @ Sep 21 2012, 02:06 AM)
how come contractor quote me so much? 18500 excluded tiles, window, door.
132sqft is referring to 11'x7' + 11'x5'
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in that case expensive lah...better try get few quotations for you to compare...

This post has been edited by tomjason: Sep 21 2012, 08:52 AM
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post Sep 24 2012, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(ponyznon @ Sep 22 2012, 05:17 PM)
icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  Need 2 cent advice here....

Plan to extend my kitchen:

4x20--> How much will cost?
       --> Exclude Door and Windows
May I know Kayu Bakau is for what  shocking.gif  don't un....
How much a down light cost?
Please advice...tq
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Hi bro,

for your case estimated RM7K exclude door and windows (you do not mention how many windows and door..i estimated door and windows RM2500).

Kayu bakau is for piling, usually for area with soft land..this to prevent your house from sinking..do not worry the kayu bakau will last for ages and the kayu bakau termite cannot bite since to hard for them.

good luck

Added on September 24, 2012, 9:04 am
QUOTE(yooworld @ Sep 22 2012, 09:38 PM)
Hi brother,

Currently my pipe from outside meter to kitchen and tangki is steel pipe, i want to change it to PVC, meaning just build a new pipe to kitchen and tangki only, my house is double storey 18x60, and the contractor charge me for RM2.6k just for plumbing, include hacking and plastering. Is it a reasonable price? Because i feel tat PVC pipe is not so expensive...

Thanks ya!
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hi bro,

pvc pipe is not expensive...the contractor charge you expensive...try get few quotation..if you want cheaper..try get indon contractor but you must supervsie..

good luck

Added on September 24, 2012, 9:05 am
QUOTE(jesslynn @ Sep 22 2012, 09:41 PM)
Need another advice here.

For extension kitchen, normally how many bakau and how many footing require?
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i have posted in the thread...read every page...

Added on September 24, 2012, 9:14 am
QUOTE(aoi9798 @ Sep 22 2012, 10:14 PM)
Hi tomjason,

I do really need a very good luck right now.  sweat.gif
Received my first quotation.

- Demolish existing brickwall and make good = 700
- Demolish existing tile at convert bathroom = 300
- Excavation for footing, ground slab & ground beam = 500
- Construct new r.c footing, beams, column, slab at grd & roof level = 4000
- Laying 115 thk brickwall c/w plastering = 3500
- Supply & install 1'x2' floor tiles (kitchen) = 6000
- Supply & install 1'x2' floor tiles (convert bathroom) = 6100
- Supply & install roof trussess & concrete tiles.
- Supply & install single leaf solid door c/w frame & lockset (2nos) = 1200
- Supply & install 3 leaf push-out aluminium window for kitchen (1no) = 1000
- Supply & install exhaust fan for kitchen (1no) = 300
- Supply & install concealed ABS pipes for water tap including fittings (5nos) = 750
- Supply & install WC for bathroom (1no) = 500
- Supply & install sanitary & outlet pipes to sewer manhole (3nos) = 500
- Wiring & switch socket for powerpoint from DB (2nos) = 400
- Wiring & switch for lighting at extension part (2nos) = 160
- Painting for extension part = 2500

cry.gif looking at this quotation making me "pening la"..  rclxub.gif
Question : Is the price stated reasonable?  hmm.gif

Added on September 22, 2012, 11:26 pm

Bos...

Me also want to know whats the purpose of Kayu Bakau....  hmm.gif

TQ..
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hi bro,

for your case...your reno 7x10..the contractor charge you RM28K....too expensive...

Added on September 24, 2012, 9:22 am
QUOTE(gg8090 @ Sep 23 2012, 07:52 AM)
thanks bro tomjason, not it's not a mistake. If i use normal asbestos or factory zinc and exclude the tile how much saving i could get?
Your budget based on Y12 pad foothing/beam/pillar or normal pre cast tiang? I'm looking around RM40k; is't possible?
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my calculation in included roof tile...if to exclude roof tile minus RM2100...i don know cost of factory zink as you mention...i guess not much different...

yes my calculation based on Y12 footing,beam etc...your budget is around RM40K..yes it is possible.....you cannot get that price if you are hiring contractor..you can get it if you hiring indon contractor..try call the number i ave in the thread..

Added on September 24, 2012, 9:26 am
QUOTE(cheekily @ Sep 23 2012, 04:56 PM)
Hi tomjason,

I'm planning to build a concrete kitchen tabletop with tiles. The contractor told me that I can choose whether to use:

1. bricks for the tabletop legs/stand, which will be about 4 inch thick (bricks + cement + tiles on both sides)... or
2. without bricks, but using cement with rod irons inside (+ tiles on both sides), which will be slimmer and nicer looking.

I like the 2nd option as it looks more modern, but I'm not sure whether is it strong enough? Afraid that in long term it may not be able to tahan the weight and all the pounding + cooking works done in the kitchen... scared may crack later and the whole tabletop collapse blush.gif  Also, is it advisable to add some hidden legs/stand in the middle of the tabletop? Hope you can help advice on this. For those who have experience in this, please feel free to comment and advise too. Thanks!
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hi bro,

the second option is good..look slimmer...dont worry..it is strong....the weight of kitchen table is not supported 100% by that brick or concrete..90% of the weight is support by the concrete that attached to the wall....

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post Sep 24 2012, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(AdrianSiang @ Sep 24 2012, 10:50 AM)
dear Sifu,

Kindly help to estimate the damage.

1. build a fencing wall 12 feet x 5.6 feet, 1 wall only using red brick.

2. to fill cement on the small garden in front of house, 12 x 5 feet.

Thanks
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hi bro,

1. Wall fence estimated cost RM700.

2. concrete cement 12x5, estimated RM400.


gd luck bro

Added on September 24, 2012, 11:46 am
QUOTE(knightgogo @ Sep 24 2012, 11:17 AM)
hi,
I have ask a contractor to quote for the following:

10’x7’L SHAPE TABLE TOP (INCLUDE:DOUBLE SINK+TAP)
CONNECT WIRING AND INSTALL DOWN LIGHT(NOT INCLUDE DOWN LIGHT)

WET AREA: 10’x11’ BRICK WALL (INCLUDE 4X4 SLIDING WINDOW, 5’ WALL TILES(white horse),  FLOOR TILES(white horse),PLUMBING WORKS. FIX GLASS BOX(NOT INCLUDE GLASS BOX),INSTALL
CORNICES.

quotation is RM 9200, is it reasonable?
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the quotations is cheap...does the quotation include roof? or just wall 10x11 ??



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QUOTE(knightgogo @ Sep 24 2012, 12:06 PM)
only 10' * 11' wall, no roof...
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my calculation based on your requirement estimated RM7500 (including tabletop,wet kitche etc...)...

i suppose reasonable your quotation..try to get 2,3 quotation to compare...
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QUOTE(cheekily @ Sep 24 2012, 06:09 PM)
Thanks for the advice! Will go for the thin leg/stand then  biggrin.gif  The concrete tabletop is about 8 ft long... actually it's not from wall end-to-wall end, but more of in the middle of the wall, so will need 2 legs/stand on each sides (left and right). Do I need to add a hidden leg in the middle too?
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no problem if you do not want the the hidden leg...if you want also can...no problem...for tabletop the most important is how your contractor connect to the wall properly..

Added on September 25, 2012, 8:11 am
QUOTE(knightgogo @ Sep 24 2012, 07:13 PM)
Thank you vy much.
how about quotation for the grille?
4’x6’ Mildsteel 1x1 - 2 units

2’x4’ Mildsteel 1x1 - 3 units

4’x4’ Mildsteel 1x1 - 3 units

5’x6’Mildsteel 1x1 - 1 unit

3’x6’ Mildsteel 1x1 - 1 unit

3’x7’ Back-door - 1 unit

5’x7’ Main-door - 1 unit

quotation about RM 4300 (with powder coat)
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hi bro,

for grill m.s. powder coated price range is about RM12-RM16 sq ft..so i guess your quotation is double the price...

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QUOTE(winlose2582 @ Sep 25 2012, 11:35 PM)
Sifu, need to check the price for piping quotation as below (double storey house):

To modify the main supply to the main water tank and backyard of the house (kitchen area) - RM1300
To change all the piping of 3 toilet with conceal piping - RM2500
To install (bybass water system) and test water pump - RM300

How this price above? I really no idea with the price whether is expensive onot.
1. Currently the old house I bought i running with old steel piping, is it recommend to change all the piping?
2. What kind of piping I should use? any specification?
3. Any other things I need to take attention??

Thank you....
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Normally main contractor will charge higher..if you want cheaper get indon contractor....if want greater cheaper get indon worker..you supervise...

below is the answer:

1. Currently the old house I bought i running with old steel piping, is it recommend to change all the piping?

Ans: old steel is actually GI piping....usually will rust at the joint.....for long term advised to change to PVC Class 6.

2. What kind of piping I should use? any specification?
Ans: Do not use ABS pipe (blue pipe)

3. Any other things I need to take attention??
Ans: as item 2. Since you are using pump, make sure your contractor properly glue at the joint and bend.

i hv posted tip on piping..read all my thread.

gd luck
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QUOTE(newhomeowner @ Sep 26 2012, 10:13 AM)
my house is 22 x 75. the backyard needed to extent to be wetkitchen = 5 feet.
Wetkitchen size = 22 x 5 feet

My scenario: Wanted to use existing door and windows panel, will add kitchen cabinet once extention done(different contractor)

According to this contractor, new door and windows needed since existing cannot fit/use(?). Anyone know why? Not sure what he meant by that but he included door and windows in below calculation sad.gif

Quotation given for extention

i. Structure with piling kayu bakau ,complete plaster ceiling & painting                 RM  13,200.00
ii. Concrete slab on top       RM    3,500.00
iii. 2 set aluminum window ( 6’x 4’ ) + ( 4 x 4 )     RM    1,000.00
iv. 1 set solid wooden door grade ’A’      RM       520.00
Or conceal 1 set security door with installation     RM    1,900.00
v. Tiling ½ wall tiles for new extension     RM    2,000.00
vi. Floor tiles for new extension with ( 1’x 2’) tiles    RM    1,400.00
vii. Hack original back wall and clear rubbish     RM       600.00
viii. L-shape table top ( 11+8+3-2 )      RM   2,600.00
With ( 2’x 2’ ) tiles on top & (1’x 1’) tiles for base
ix. Re-locate 1 set water point with outlet for basin    RM       250.00
x. 1 set water point with outlet for washing machine    RM       250.00
xi. Re-locate telephone box      RM       250.00
xii. Wiring for new extension
 1 set 13amp direct line for D/B box     RM       110.00
 1 pc N.C.B        RM         30.00
 1 set looping13amp for washing machine                    RM         60.00
 1 set looping 13amp c/w switch for cooker hood                   RM       180.00
 1 set looping 13amp RM30/per      RM       120.00
 1 pc lighting point for outdoor      RM         75.00
 1 pc lighting point c/w switch for kitchen                    RM         75.00
 2 pc looping lighting point RM30/per     RM         60.00

TotalCost : RM28180  rclxub.gif
Please help to advice us whether its waaaayyy overcharge or ok ok only, tomjason! big appreciation in advance  thumbup.gif
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hi bro,

for door and windows there few size...if you want to use the existing window..ask the contractor to use frame that fit your doors and windows...normally windows no problem since the frame is custom fit to your requirement..if you ar using wooden door frmae also there are custom fit..maybe your contractor is mau kerja senang....

below is my comment on the quotation:


i. Structure with piling kayu bakau ,complete plaster ceiling & painting RM 13,200.00
Ans: Expensive. Estimated RM6K only.

ii. Concrete slab on top RM 3,500.00
Ans: Resonable.

iii. 2 set aluminum window ( 6’x 4’ ) + ( 4 x 4 ) RM 1,000.00
Ans: Estimated RM840 (color glass min 5 mm thick, powder coated). Your quotation does not specify spec.

iv. 1 set solid wooden door grade ’A’ RM 520.00
Ans: If include pasang and varnish are cheap, (normally Varnish and pasang cost RM250).

Or conceal 1 set security door with installation RM 1,900.00
Ans; Reasonable

v. Tiling ½ wall tiles for new extension RM 2,000.00
Ans: Refer to my previous thread read all to find tile upah. Then you calculate


vi. Floor tiles for new extension with ( 1’x 2’) tiles RM 1,400.00
Ans: same as above.

vii. Hack original back wall and clear rubbish RM 600.00
Ans: reasonable (you do not specify size of wall)

viii. L-shape table top ( 11+8+3-2 ) RM 2,600.00

With ( 2’x 2’ ) tiles on top & (1’x 1’) tiles for base
Ans: Total length 24 feets. Estimated with tile RMRM2K.

ix. Re-locate 1 set water point with outlet for basin RM 250.00
Ans: resonable. Normally RM100 per point.

x. 1 set water point with outlet for washing machine RM 250.00
Ans: same as above

xi. Re-locate telephone box RM 250.00
Ans: Resonable

xii. Wiring for new extension
 1 set 13amp direct line for D/B box RM 110.00
 1 pc N.C.B RM 30.00
 1 set looping13amp for washing machine RM 60.00
 1 set looping 13amp c/w switch for cooker hood RM 180.00
 1 set looping 13amp RM30/per RM 120.00
 1 pc lighting point for outdoor RM 75.00
 1 pc lighting point c/w switch for kitchen RM 75.00
 2 pc looping lighting point RM30/per RM 60.00

For wiring, refer to my previous thread i hv put detail..then you calculate..

gd luck bro...try get few quotation to compare...since item item 1 is way to expensive.

Added on September 27, 2012, 8:15 am
QUOTE(cheekily @ Sep 26 2012, 08:14 PM)
Thanks for your valuable advice  smile.gif
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you are welcomed...


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yesterday my friend ask me to help her to complete her unfinish house..from other contractor.....her house completed already but she did not stay there so all wiring, windows etc kena curi already...she also want to extension sikit....


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post Sep 27 2012, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(ahazman24 @ Sep 27 2012, 09:49 AM)
Hi TJ,

Ur really amazing. THx 4 all the tips. i'm doing my renovation in next month. Care to share your secret formula?

Thx.
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TQ bro..attached is the pic you want about sink pipe drainage....i DIY sendiri pasang alone for the pipe....

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Added on September 27, 2012, 11:24 am
QUOTE(newhomeowner @ Sep 27 2012, 10:46 AM)
humongous thanks for the reply tomjason!
oh didnt know u do reno too. can u help me to reno my kitchen instead?  icon_rolleyes.gif
pls pls  icon_question.gif
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my full time work is in office..that reno just tolong2 my friend..her house is few block walking distance from my house..so after office i just go to her house to inspect...jauh2 difficult sikit bro since attach to my existing work...but if you are in shah alam..i will intro my indon worker to you..he is good...

you can tell me what advised you want..i can advised...




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post Sep 27 2012, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(newhomeowner @ Sep 27 2012, 11:49 AM)
not in shah alam, but nearby. cannot commit time to supervise indons while reno. but since u recommended, maybe i can trust them without me at the site all along cool2.gif

pm me the indon's contact no. pls.
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hi bro,

no problem..but let my worker finish another small job for me for my house i ask him to do biggrin.gif ..then you can remind me to give you his hp no.
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post Sep 27 2012, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(newhomeowner @ Sep 27 2012, 02:57 PM)
how many of them involved? if i ask them to do extension with minimum supervision, will they understand what needed to be done? what about material, do i need to purchase myself since ive zero-knowledge of know-how and know-what..  blink.gif please advice..

btw, gimme estimation date for ur small job to complete..then id know la when to remind u brows.gif
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i calculate and buy the material...just upah the indon...

if you dont have experience ..just use package with material..read my thread i hv mention methhod...

PM you already the ho no.

Added on September 27, 2012, 4:34 pm
QUOTE(qaf1010 @ Sep 27 2012, 04:15 PM)
wish i can import the indon worker to kuching.. smile.gif lots of work to be done on my house.. although it's brand new, there's a lot of problems.. leakage, poor workmanship, cracks, poor materials, and the list goes on and on..
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i though sarawak also has indon worker..nowadays no local want to do labor work...

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QUOTE(newhomeowner @ Sep 27 2012, 04:51 PM)
hmm..Lump sump labor + material. just like normal contractor la rite..give him spec, he will quote price. after i get his quotation, i come back to u again lah to verify, can ka.. cannot afford to spend too much money, i have family of 4 to feed  sweat.gif

thanks for the number!   smile.gif
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since you dont have experience to buy material...

yes..cause indon contractor and indon worker is much much cheaper as they themself do the work..main contractor they dont do the worker..and just take profit....


read detail my thread...

anything you can asked me for comment or advised...

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QUOTE(qaf1010 @ Sep 27 2012, 05:04 PM)


the problem is i don't know how to find one, and if i find one, don't know whether he's really good or not.. got quotations from 2 different contractors and the cost amounted to more than RM65k..  cry.gif  brand new house but cannot move in till i get everything fixed..  doh.gif
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ic...main contractor memang expensive...that reality cause they also want to take untung..mostly their untung is about 30-50%....

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QUOTE(newhomeowner @ Sep 27 2012, 05:29 PM)
just saw u posted 3 contacts of indons too in prev thread..will try ask quotation from each.  icon_rolleyes.gif
oh by the way, im confused of which to do first. what i have in mind are listed down here:

1) house inspection for cracks etc..
2) kitchen extension
3) plaster ceiling + wiring
4) kitchen cabinet
5) tinted
6) grill

dunno if my priorities are correct.  unsure.gif please advice anyone esp tomjason  biggrin.gif
FYI, my floor are all with tiles already...
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hi bro,

your sequence is correct...
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QUOTE(mamasos @ Oct 1 2012, 10:17 AM)
sifu tomjason, i going to renovate my new house. Can you pm me your formula. Thanks
ayoi just know that tomjason no more giving his secret formula already.

Can you help me to quote estimate cost for :
1) extend kitchen area 26x5(red brick), without tiles
2) extend ground floor bedroom 12 x7(red brick) , without tiles
* 1 & 2 planing to do concrete roof, what is the cost to include in?
 
3) 9x8 ft wall up(red brick)
4) cement fence 63 ft

a) can u quote me 2 type of roof. one with wood and roof trust frame
b) what is the prices for main materials for construction. eg sand;red brick;steel....?
c) how to calc, how much/many should be used?
d) how start for a renovation? hire ppl draw plan, apply permit?costs?

how sifus can give me some green light. thanks
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hi bro,


1) extend kitchen area 26x5(red brick), without tiles
Ans: Estimated RM10400. (include roof,wiring & ceilling)

2) extend ground floor bedroom 12 x7(red brick) , without tiles
* 1 & 2 planing to do concrete roof, what is the cost to include in?
Ans: Estimated RM6500 (include roof,wiring&ceilling)


3) 9x8 ft wall up(red brick)
Ans: Estimated Rm700

4) cement fence 63 ft
Ans: Estimated Rm3K (fence height 5 fts)

a) can u quote me 2 type of roof. one with wood and roof trust frame
Ans: my estimated above based on GI roof truss. Wood a bit cheaper.

b) what is the prices for main materials for construction. eg sand;red brick;steel....?
Ans: Sand 1 scoop RM70, 3 tons lorry RM 230, 10 tons lorry Rm430. Red brick RM0.45, sand brick RM0.37. Price at shah alam area.

c) how to calc, how much/many should be used?
Ans: this one for what material ??

d) how start for a renovation? hire ppl draw plan, apply permit?costs?
Ans: First thing you must draw your plan (you can use free sofware Sweet Home 3D or Sketch up google), for permit if sikit2 no need permit.
Most impoartant your jiran not complaint.


anything you want more inform me.

TQ

Added on October 4, 2012, 2:47 pm
QUOTE(currahee @ Oct 2 2012, 07:50 PM)
hi sifu, what metal material can i use to lay over the wall to make it into like a feature wall?
how much is it PSF? thx
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hi bro,


what do you means, is it RC wall?...if RC wall, if want stronger you can use Y10 steel else you can use BRC A7 of A8.

Added on October 4, 2012, 2:49 pm
QUOTE(kslim138 @ Oct 2 2012, 08:23 PM)
Hi sifu, can you PM me the calculation formula.

Added on October 2, 2012, 8:55 pmTomjason, need your help to estimate the cost for extent my house backyard 20’ X 7' (only for 1 floor) as safety purpose to cover it before move in. I have got the permit as advice by contractor to have a runner helping to buy a standard book from MBSA.

The total cost he quote me is around RM25K – 30K, but now he have inform me that he only can start work in few months later due to too many works he have accepted and ask me if cant wait better find another contractor to do my house.

Now I’m struggling to find a new contractor
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hi bro,

for your case Estimated RM17K. my advised dont 'gopoh2' find contractor...if the contractor jual mahal you can find other contractor...if you want indon contractor inform me much cheaper.

TQ

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