dont know why german small little engine can output japan medium engine
Story of Proton engine, Campro CFE, 1.6 litre turbo, torque just like 2L eng
Story of Proton engine, Campro CFE, 1.6 litre turbo, torque just like 2L eng
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Mar 26 2013, 01:48 AM
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dont know why german small little engine can output japan medium engine
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May 14 2013, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 25 2013, 10:22 PM) but only 200Nm wor, and every other manufacturer with a forced induction engine of 1.6-1.8L would be producing 240-260NM of torque.. They need to retain torque below 215nm to preserve CVT3 GB. But if you not sayang your GB you can increase the boost pressure more than 1 bar(Currently 0.6bar=8.70228psi) and remap ECU to release this real CFE performance. |
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May 14 2013, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(rOnnyJustrOn @ May 14 2013, 12:30 PM) They need to retain torque below 215nm to preserve CVT3 GB. But if you not sayang your GB you can increase the boost pressure more than 1 bar(Currently 0.6bar=8.70228psi) and remap ECU to release this real CFE performance. But the initial acceleration too sluggish liao. Even after remap everything on preve. They should do something about the initial acceleration. Maybe install another scroll in the engine. |
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May 14 2013, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(Kendall @ May 14 2013, 12:34 PM) But the initial acceleration too sluggish liao. Even after remap everything on preve. They should do something about the initial acceleration. Maybe install another scroll in the engine. Not sure about Preve, some said the one install on Exora is tuned more aggressive because of weight 1.5tan. I'm currently owner of exora CFE, no problem accelerate from 0 to 100 in 10 second. Preve should do better. |
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May 14 2013, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(rOnnyJustrOn @ May 14 2013, 12:38 PM) Not sure about Preve, some said the one install on Exora is tuned more aggressive because of weight 1.5tan. I'm currently owner of exora CFE, no problem accelerate from 0 to 100 in 10 second. Preve should do better. 3 weeks ago, I asked the foreman to tune it to exora one.got slightly better but still sluggish. Below 2000rpm,even Kia picanto feels more responsive than preve. In high speed,preve is unbeatable by most similar priced car but in traffic jam and crawling situation |
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May 14 2013, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(Kendall @ May 14 2013, 12:42 PM) 3 weeks ago, I asked the foreman to tune it to exora one.got slightly better but still sluggish. Below 2000rpm,even Kia picanto feels more responsive than preve. In high speed,preve is unbeatable by most similar priced car but in traffic jam and crawling situation i think is the CVT ratio problem instead on engineI just own a proton saga FLX SE recently compare with old avanza which i still drive i can fee the saga pick up which late respond compare regular AT. I can feel it need abt 1 or 2 second only can change to ratio that match ur engine output if u maintain ur pedal with out press deeper. I can feel the power but it like late coming only >< i guess there still need improve in tuning the CVT to math Malaysian drivestyle more |
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May 14 2013, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(bai1101 @ May 14 2013, 12:46 PM) i think is the CVT ratio problem instead on engine Seems legit maybe its the cvt. I just own a proton saga FLX SE recently compare with old avanza which i still drive i can fee the saga pick up which late respond compare regular AT. I can feel it need abt 1 or 2 second only can change to ratio that match ur engine output if u maintain ur pedal with out press deeper. I can feel the power but it like late coming only >< i guess there still need improve in tuning the CVT to math Malaysian drivestyle more |
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May 14 2013, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(Kendall @ May 14 2013, 12:50 PM) SE is 1.6 but also might be their purpose to doing so also cause i heard Honda give up CVT on city because malaysian driver attitude on slam and drive which kill the CVT faster than expectedThis post has been edited by bai1101: May 14 2013, 12:54 PM |
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May 14 2013, 12:53 PM
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May 14 2013, 12:56 PM
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May 14 2013, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(Kendall @ May 14 2013, 12:42 PM) 3 weeks ago, I asked the foreman to tune it to exora one.got slightly better but still sluggish. Below 2000rpm,even Kia picanto feels more responsive than preve. In high speed,preve is unbeatable by most similar priced car but in traffic jam and crawling situation Maybe causes by safety feature on CVT3 GB. As inform by kristof (cvt supplier for proton) the clutch will half open for smooth acceleration from static and also to prevent engine die on low rpm until certain speed before clutch fully closed. You can refer here for CVT3 GB. |
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May 14 2013, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(rOnnyJustrOn @ May 14 2013, 12:57 PM) Maybe causes by safety feature on CVT3 GB. As inform by kristof (cvt supplier for proton) the clutch will half open for smooth acceleration from static and also to prevent engine die on low rpm until certain speed before clutch fully closed. You can refer here for CVT3 GB. What is your fuel consumption for your car? |
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May 14 2013, 01:01 PM
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May 14 2013, 01:03 PM
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May 14 2013, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(bai1101 @ May 14 2013, 12:51 PM) SE is 1.6 but also might be their purpose to doing so also cause i heard Honda give up CVT on city because malaysian driver attitude on slam and drive which kill the CVT faster than expected But no slam the car no move. Preve if you just release the brake,it will only move 1-2km/h instead of 5-6km/h in other car. Too heavy kot. |
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May 14 2013, 01:06 PM
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May 14 2013, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(Kendall @ May 14 2013, 01:03 PM) Mine is 12L/km twice the amount they claimed on the brochure. 6.6L/100km my bontut. Currently is about 7000km liao. That was very high for preve which weight around 1.3 tan compare with exora which 1.5 tan. What modification had you done? racing chip or only ECU remap? |
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May 14 2013, 01:10 PM
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May 14 2013, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(rOnnyJustrOn @ May 14 2013, 01:09 PM) That was very high for preve which weight around 1.3 tan compare with exora which 1.5 tan. What modification had you done? racing chip or only ECU remap? No modification,only the remap in the service center. Do you know the normal fuel consumption for preve? |
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May 14 2013, 01:17 PM
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