Not necessarily true. At under 2k RPM you can already go 90-100 km/h without engaging the turbo. Turbo tend to get high FC because ppl who drive turbo like to tekan.

Fair enough. I agree marketing figures are often misleading.

I misunderstood that you mean CFE must have higher FC than IAFM+.

IAFM+ was developed specifically to pair with the CVT.

If need to do the same for CPS = more money.

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Added on March 15, 2012, 2:49 pmNot to forget that thing between the driver's seat and the steering wheel.

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 15 2012, 02:49 PM

Even the Persona H line has it....

If wanna compare like that, then wait 2 years only compare a 2 year old P321a to a 2 year old Forte, OK?

Another immensely informative post, a great many things that I did not know previously.

mat79, just confess you are DSZ.

Coz Proton cars are also exported?

Actually he got split personality. He tell himself wan

Personally, if you are not going to get the premium variant with CFE, then better get a Persona H line instead. The car is almost as heavy as the exora, which had underpower issues with its CPS variant. I dont imagine the IAFM+ powerplant will do any better, especially with full load.

Just sayin'.

Many carmakers dah ade kot

No need lah.

See my car, wash once every month, every week different color, White->biege->yellow->grey. Next month repeat.

Yep. If you buy black color hor, you only get black->grey->black

That one, third week already got jor. I pretend they are racing stripes but stuck 90 degrees.

knock resistance is the RON grade, not EURO grade. EURO grade is how much pollutant is in the fuel.


This post has been edited by dares: Mar 16 2012, 01:11 PM

Proton Camnipunboleh

Preve better lor...

Booked wrong car

+1

Design flaw for example the CVT overheat issue in the early batches of FLX. Some may be harmless annoyances, some could be major inconveniences or even life threatening. Warranty or not, they have caused the owners grief and possibly bodily harm.

This is not limited to Proton, mind you, many carmaker have teething issues with early batches of new cars. It is not a QC issue.

I admire those who have faith in Proton and DSZ. But the truth is their track record is tainted, and that's a fact. If you say that their first batch will be flawless, I will believe it when I see it. I would gladly eat crow if I am proven wrong.

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 16 2012, 03:27 PM

Bro, my FLX SE dashboard rattle since day one, CVT mounting noisy, drumbrake noisy since second week, replaced twice, engine jerk like mad in the morning. So dont tell me I underestimate Proton. As much as i like the 1.6 liter with CVT powertrain, it is new tech and all, proton products still leave much to be desired. My car is currently 2 months old, btw.

Good if the P321a proves to be leaps and bounds ahead of their current line of products, I will consider it seriously. But now, with the car that I am driving, you expect me to take a leap of faith and believe that proton has improve drastically overnight?

Like I said, ill believe it when i see it.

I was merely stating i dun believe the first batch will be completely problem free. I also said other carmakers have problems with their new cars. I never said proton alone have this problem.

Which part did i underestimate proton?

I intend to. For the record, i have high hopes for this car, but not high enough to buy the first batch lor.

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 16 2012, 05:45 PM