Exactly.

Fuuhhh. Dowan to rant anymore. Hope nobody misunderstand me.

Mat79, thanks for your post, another great one too.

The rattling problem i more or less know where it is, its just the parts are difficult to access and i dont really trust proton techs to open up my dashboard lest they solve one rattle but introduce another one. Last time my rear door rattle, those idiots go and grease my rear seat mounting. I have to open up the door trim panel and apply insulflex only the problem was solved.

Now left the so called CVT mounting sound tat i will need to do for my next service.

I know what you meant last time. Remember, the cvt powertrain was introduce with flx, and the first batch of flx had the cvt overheat issue, thats what i meant by design flaw that plagues the first batch, or the first models to use new tech or production methods.

Now, the new proton car is having tonnes of new tech being introduced into a proton car, be it accessories or the powertrain. I am not saying they are skimping on the reliability studies, its just some stuffs are simply difficult to discover without the car being driven by the consumers, that compound with the possibility of poor QC could potentially aggravate the problem.

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 16 2012, 08:23 PM

Heh, if it's only squeaking noise, I can live with it. It's a rythmic knocking sound from the drumbrake that follows the vehicle speed when the brake is pressed.

I thought the CVT in the CFE variant will be CVT3? Exora bold is using CVT2?

But that's beside the point. Look, I hope you are right and your optimism is ultimately paid off, I really do. I wish nothing but the best for P321a, and I applaud their effort in testing the new systems as thoroughly as possible. I hope all of that is not let down by poor QC and after sales.

In fact if all the stars align, I might get one next year. I have repeatedly pestered my SA to call me when a test drive unit arrive at his dealership.

But again, I stand my ground to look and see before jumping in.

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 16 2012, 10:13 PM

Oh, my mistake then

I would like your friend to meet mat79's friend.

Do tell.

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 17 2012, 02:05 AM

I stand corrected then.

But the fact that a new car would inexplicable go into safe mode due to this, and Proton sheepishly "recalling" these cars, point to a flaw in the design or implementaation. I also vaguely recall a fuel hose placement issue that would cause the car to jerk, which was part of of things rectified in the "recall" exercise.

I saw the memo at an SC before regarding this, they did attribute the jerk to the fuel hose. Since some ppl say after sending to SC for rectification, the jerking issue was gone also.

The memo describe how to move the fuel hose to a different position. Something to do heat, I gather.

Next, someone will say "learn what? no tech transfer!"

I troll aje....get so serious answer

Nvm, beneficial to the thread also.

Official figures are not always reliable. Proton say the Saga FLX 1.6 top speed is 165 km/h, when already got member went 200km/h. Official FC figures, forget about it.

Bear in mind, the P321a is about 200-300kg heavier than the Vios, they are not even in the same segment of cars.

You should be comparing to Forte or Civic.

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 17 2012, 03:42 PM

Of course they arent. But we are comparing specs and performance, not affordability nor ego.

Solid white, i was thinking the same thing. Use to avoid white cars, but now i bought one, feel they can look good too. Just the maintenance is really tedious

I wonder what are Proton hatebois doing in this thread. They have no intention to buy the car since the beginning of time.

What? Are you here to exert the superiority of your Toyota/Honda/Nissan/Ford/Perodua etc. etc. before the P321a is even launched? Compensating for something are we?

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 17 2012, 11:00 PM

Kayaba not from Jpn?....UR also from Jpn , Nokia also.

Just came back. Still skeleton.

Yea. I won a sms 'n win lucky draw.

They gave me a Power-of-1 recyclable grocery bag.

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Added on March 18, 2012, 1:05 pmWhich fkr was it that said they are going to unveil it this Sunday???

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 18 2012, 01:05 PM

Sorry ler, the minute I saw skeleton I already turn around and go see lotus drifto drifto at the track.

The only difference I notice is that now got rear seats. I din't go and read the write up.

Serious?

You can find plenty of horror stories about T&H SCs who treat their customers like idiots. Worse, those customer's paid more money to be treated like idiots.

How did you think Honda City IDSI's CVT got such as bad rap? ever heard of the Honda owner who paste sticker on his Accord "My honda tak guna" and park in front of the SC? Oh and that thread where the Honda Hybrid battery kong and Honda tried to lie their way out of a warranty claim? Oh let's not forget the legendary cockroach urine in the ECU by Toyota UMW. Then there's a Naza Sutera owner whose engine kong a few days (or weeks?) after getting the car, and got treated like shit by Naza SC. My Cousin's BMW rear brake lamp kong they try to get out of warranty claim and ask RM8k from him (Among other problems, he swore never to buy a BMW again. Who does that?). Need I give more examples?

And despite Proton's problem your family bought so many Proton cars so that you can come here and complain? go buy Perodua lah. U think only Proton SC got problem? fine la I pay 50k for a baseline car, I complain you if you treat me like shit. I pay RM 500k and is still treated like shit what are you gonna say? throw money in his face ah?

Please go and worship your Vios J with scratched dashboard somewhere else.

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 18 2012, 02:55 PM

I see that you have conveniently neglected to address the rest of my post.

Oh well, criticism and bashing I can stand. But stupidity and blind ignorance doesn't deserve attention.

I'll end this post with a joke:

One day, an ah beng went to a japanese car dealership to collect delivery of his brand new car. Upon inspection, he saw some smelly brown substances on his driver seat. He asks the SA what it is, and he explained that a disgruntled factory worker shitted on his seat. Ah beng went on to ask, at the japan factory or marehsia factory? The SA reports it happened in japan, and offered to change another car.

Ah beng declined the offer, and explained that it is good shit because it is japanese shit. He then sat on the japanese shit and drove it home.

This post has been edited by dares: Mar 18 2012, 04:23 PM